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How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly!

Oh my fucking god! We haz just done the mythical thing. I put him down dozy. He went to sleep. Took 20 mins of me stroking his nose and many many startle reflexes back to waking, but he did it!!! First time evah.

Thanks for words of wisdom laydeez. I know he's not unhappy really, he just seems more sensitive than the others (which long term I guess is a good thing) - his mood so seems to rely on a) sleep and b) how he reacts to me and TGO.

oh and in the excitement of that I completely forgot that he rolled over!!! front to back. took him about 2 mins as he got stuck on his side, but he did it! Perhaps that's why he didn't sleep last night, he was learning that in his head?

cossie I know I'm a fine one to talk, but please try not to feel shit. You are doing a grand job and and both knackered and I'm sure all the other mums feel the same really. I do pretty much the same as the others in the car - she always ends up sweaty in the seat so I focus more on having a blanket on top than full layers, unless it's too short a journey to be worth the faff.

I'm with you all on the sleep thing. Even when she does sleep, I'm too busy being anxious to get some kip myself. The drugging worked earlier - two hours before she woke and started whining again. But I can't give her Calpol before every nap. (She was actually in pain today).

We've just agreed to do CC in her own room, with no swaddling, after Christmas. I might leave the dummy, but she'll have to find it herself. and we will only build as far as 15 minutes, and every 15 thereafter. Bloody better work.

She sat up unaided for a short spell today [proud] then tried to snog the dog, tongue and all . Also tried to suck on dog's ear

Thanks for feed routine info. I want to try:

6.30 milk
7am breakfast
9.30 milk
12.30 small milk and lunch
3.30 milk
5pm dinner (only meal distanced from milk)
6.45 to 7.30 milk (some either side of bath)
10pm milk (dream feed with any luck)

Guess when she's in her own room I'll have to set alarms to get me up and ready, rather than sleep as long as she does on the rare occasion she makes it past 6.30)

sorry for non-stop chat. bit wired and not had adult company today. (back to group tomorrow).

x-posts - well done cossie. And he could well be restless because of learning. I still have to pull Squeaker's toes down from mid-air when she's not swaddled. I'm dreaded the imminent back to front roll and crawling. It's bad enough that she can do the crab. (currently asleep with head pinned against head of cot quite agains SIDS advice. But she's in a sleeping bag so perfectly safe).

Now will it make anyone feel better to know that I took the crown today by allowing Rastus to roll off the sofa whilst I was applying mascara in front of the hallway mirror?

yes . Did he bounce?

that should have been a

Not sure. He certainly howled in surprise - I left him towards the back cushion but it does slope slightly and he must have rolled at least twice to end up on the floor. The cushions are quite squidgey so by the time he got to the end of the cushion the flor wasn't far away but that's hardly the point. It appears that whilst I was tra-la-la-ing with my make up, I forgot I had a child

oops cunty

Christ, I actually wish I could forget I had one sometimes. Not in a nasty way, just so's I can chill a bit. If Rastus wasn't in hysterics it can't have been that bad. Please try to video next time.

Squeaks is at the "see how hard I can hit something then howl when it hurts" stage. (or laugh when it's me she hurts, as mentioned earlier).

Great news Cos that is certainly progress. Maybe your NCT group are a bit sly and feed and drug their children before meet ups?

Cunts you can take pole position until someone else knocks you off.

I have resorted to watching Crime Watch. There is fuck all else on.. I would go to be but I have to feed Peppa

go to be? got to bed, clearly

cunty You do make me larf! Rastus is hardly some 2 lb preemie, let him bounce!

Is this what life has come to? Watching Crime Watch? okie You need some cocktails, let's ditch the kids and have one in every colour! (Cocktail, not kid - although one never knows how the night will progress.)

cunty When you said "substitute him" did you mean Shaun or jb? I'm well up for a jb swap, Tom Hardy will do the trick. Shaun however is a white noise machine and so babygold.

Rastus got his own back by waking 3 times last night

I meant swap jb for someone else... am interested to know where you got this Shaun from though?

My slumber bear arrived yday. Only arse is no batteries with it ! It also plays White noise/womb noises. Designed by a doctor and sposed to be v good.

Despite MB not sleeping yday during day, he slept 9-1230 (I fell asleep too and woke up when he did instead of waking him at 1130). Fed and back to sleep at 1245 then awake again at 5.30. Fed and put back down til about 8. So pretty good. He is asleep on me now. I need to summon the energy to get up and get cracking. The swaddling and White noise works for us at the mo. I fear that it will not last forever.

A lot of his clothes are too small. Those that have a max of 12lb def are. So he is in some 3-6mth gros. Chunky chops.

MIL has great timing. Keeps popping round about 6pm which is when MB is kicking off with his screams and at his most colicky. First thing she says is "oh wind". It's her answer to everything and my ishoo is that I take it as criticism that I don't burp Him enough or properly. Then she picks him up and rubs his back and the little blighter burps!

HI then goes out leaving me with MIL who is about to leave but cos MB is screaming is hanging around asking if I want her to take him. No!!!! After five mins of Watching him still kicking off she leaves. No shit, no sooner does the front door go that he stops. Clearly he can sense my stress!!!!

Right - better get up!! MBs 6wk check today.

a reasonable night last night. he was a bitrestless between 1 and 2 but settled him ok with nose stroking, anf he is miraculously taking dummy, which as i knew it would is really helping him. any how he did all night in his basket again hurrah! not too many feeds either (for him!)

cossie hope you are feeling better Missus. It is so hard to be dealing with sleep deprivation and the days when you feel that you simply can't handle it (and that maybe the whole thing was a bad idea )are usually directly related. The day my mum left, I cried all day and so did Missy. It was our nadir. But then something encouraging happens - like your fantastic self settling with Artie last night - and you bounce back up again. By the way, as my midwife pointed out to me, if he did it once, it means he can do it and it will happen again, even if it is not immediately. Sorry BTW if I sounded smug on the one waking a night thing - I claim no credit for it, it is just blind luck. Maybe I didn't realise just how lucky.

moo and silv hope you guys are feeling better too!

Curly your routine looks great. And looks like Squeaks is just thriving! For the room switch, maybe you could start with naps in the new destination room (maybe you do that already?) - Missy sleeps in her own room and it happened very naturally from her napping in there and then one night was asleep in there when we went to bed, so we left her and all slept better as a result. We live in a small apartment though, so of course distances are pretty small. I still hear her from her first waking grunt (grunts and sighs could go on another hour before she wakes - normal?)

Also interested by this sheep alpy.

Okie your shopping skills are amazing. Can't believe you went to Zara with Peppa. Am to scared to try and brave changing rooms etc.

6 weeks check up went fine. My tear has healed very well and now "looks lovely" apparently. Got to take her word on that. The air bubble feeling is related to low cervix it seems. Lots of tightening exercises still needed apparently.. Babes is doing really well - over 4 kilos now, which is good going.

feeling much better today, TGO gave me a good talking too as well as you lot cheering me up :) and don't worry on the one waking, you didn't sound smug I am just jelus

Sheep fans: www.allbabyneeds.co.uk/Shop/ewan-the-dream-sheep-baby-sleep-aid-by-easidream/prod_1773.html I'm not sure if they deliver here though swits - I got it sent to my mum and she sent it over.

Bear is currently in our room - obv. being in a 1-bed flat it's that or the shed... When we move to the new house he will spend the first few weeks in with us again so he can get used to the new house - I think it's a bit mean to whack him in his own room just because he'll have one!

Had a mare this morning, cashpoints all empty and I needed 400 smackers for winter tyres. Ended up dragging Bear all around town in my arms - heavy little bugger. Got back to the car and realised that the dummy on a string of beads with clip and been lost somewhere around town. Headed off to the garage prepared for an hour of angry screaming and he simply sat mesmerised at all the amazing things to see. E.g., piles of big black rubber.

I've done changing rooms on two seperate occasions with Bear, first time was horrible and I returned home empty-handed because it was simply too stressful. He sat in his buggy purple-faced yelling at me. Second time he was sleeping and it was bliss! Easier than jb even.

cossie Very glad to hear you're feeling better. Honestly, 'tis the time of year.

I don't do changing rooms, I work on a buy and return if doesn't fit basis.

You are right Alps is deffo time of year, the last couple of weeks with all the snow I felt awful as felt stuck in the house, now it's all gone, but more forecast :(

You need to give changing rooms more of a chance - the pram doubles up as an excellent clothes horse

Peppa has grown out of a lot of her first clothes but I keep squeezing her in to them as next size up is a sign of her growing and means she is not an ickle baby anymore. I want her to stay small please.

Cos nose stoking goes down well here too but both children. Mini Okes still likes it when he is tired or upset.

Not sure I like the sound of 'nose-stoking' - sounds like it may have implications for the frontal brain

Squeaks has sussed the nose stroke trick and now turns her head away from it when she wants to resist sleep.

Which is not right now. I had to bring her home from group because she was in tired hysterics. Conked straight out in her cot (arms free!)

Shame though, because more mums had just arrived. We spent the first 20 minutes there alone exploring the toys.

Routine FAIL.

6.30 milk (seemed ravenous)
7am - couple of spoonfuls of food but little interest
7.30am - she was exhausted already and back in bed. That has thrown everything else out and resulted in the aforementioned hysterics.

Think we've hit the six month growth spurt. which is kind of good because they make her sleepier.

Changing rooms - seek out the one meant for the disabled, you can get a pram in more easily.

gasper do you think the aforementioned 6 month thing may be the cause of Rastus's wakefulness at night though? Is it growth AND development? I just can't understand the frequent wakings he's going through - I know he seems to have a new trick to show me every day and I also know it can't be hunger.

Unless he's got that disease that I think I have where your brain doesn't tell you you're full and so you just trough non-stop.

cossie glad you too are feeling better. Yesterday was horrid, today full of promise.

silv you sound like you've turned the corner everyone wangs on about! MIL sounds like she means well you know - breathe breathe breathe...

witty I'm so glad your check up was ok. I too was relieved massively but sort of also a bit worried as it has made me realise that what happens now will determine the state of my backdoor (sorry) for the rest of my life. I'm doing the exercises religiously! Also thank you for your 6 week life line....

After the horror of yesterday (and he wasn't even that bad, it was me) I am feeling so much better today. He went down like a dream last night even though last 10pm feed lasted 1.5 hours - I was determined to make sure he fed and didn't snack. And guess what 2.45 was the wake up time. A proper block of sleep and then down again after 45 mins and through til the morning. And then we snoozed til 10am! Still feeling coldy and a bit shit, but no shower today, no washing, no tidying - just resting and concentrating on him.

After nearly ODing on antibiotics yesterday the wonderful wonderful nurse from my doc surgery called me and bless her asked me how I was doing in every respect. She took 20 minutes to give me advice about everything - even my relationship. It really made me cry! Daft. I think she realised from the sound of me (snotty) and the fact I was taking tablets willy nilly all was not well... She's really made me realise that nothing else matters other than resting and making sure I am ok and strong enough to look after babymoo. She even asked who was cooking the xmas dinner! It really is hard just not doing normal stuff, but I know I have to.

curly I'm sorry the weaning didn't go well today - it sounds like these big milestones are also a question of baby steps over time and not expecting too much too soon so give yourself a break hey :)

Me and okie in changing rooms last week locally was funny. Her little boy was being very amusing from inside the changing room and I was just pulling on various BF tops looking like a lumpy shite. It really was a question of does this make me look less shit than usual rather than do I look good in this? I bought a black baggy jumpy with a flap that opens up. Style personified me.

Right he's been asleep half an hour - put the laptop down honey!