FESH Spa & Creche - Queue-jumpers accepted with open arms

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How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly!

are you out east silvia?

Bucks! About 40mins from Marylebone, or a 30min drive to Ealing...

And Ealing is only a short hop to Richmond which is another BESH haunt! You won't escape my girl...

Moo i think that is spiffing. Can you message me on t'other place with any suggestions for a place to meet and a cafe in case the weather is poo? I was supposed to be doing some research but i've been too busy filing my nails

The IKEA Ektorp is indeed brilliant and as moo says, the arm rests are exactly the right height. I got the two seater so there was room for snacks/drinks/laptop/book/remote etc. Also in coffeestained doghaired white.

Anyone elses child feeding every two hours????????????????????????????????

When he was a littley yes. Are you feeling like a dry husk?

Silver in the evening it can be but generally every 3 hrs here. Maybe MB is going through a growth spurt? If you believe the books then once a baby gets above a certain weight then they should be able to go 3 hrs between feeds other than durung growth spurts.

silv if it's for daytime naps, the chair is absolutely fine, don't worry about that at all, millions and millions of babies will do a lot of sleeping in bouncy chairs and car seats with no ill effects.

And yes, Artie still often feeds every 2 hours, although went 5 hours at the weekend!

We didn't buy a chair of any description, I feed either on the sofa if downstairs, on in bed if upstairs. Don't see the point in specific chairs.

Hello Ladies.

Sorry for the sporadic appearances on here but life is affording me precious few moments on electronic devices that connect me to the rest of the world that doesn't revolve around baby poo and getting pissed on.

Thank you for the advice on the formula feeding. I've introduced one feed a day for a week now and so tomorrow will see 2 feeds coming in. It's like a tiny light at the end of a very long tunnel for sure!

Also, sympathising/relating to the thoughts on OH's - our good night chat last night involved the word "adoption" and it wasn't me that said it. OH I think is struggling with dealing with the unknown and not knowing how to fix the problem (ie. the crying). I think a lot of this is down to him having little patience (feed the baby, burp the baby, change the baby all in is span of 15 minutes) when what he needs to do is give it somewhat longer. Oh, I don't know what's going on if I'm honest but I will be ordering Life after Birth and placing it not too discretely by the side of his bed so he might read it.

More advice needed if anyone cares to postulate on this dilema:-

Baby is now 3 weeks old. He and I live in the lounge on a 24 hour basis as my view is that it's easier to be downstairs where all the steralizing kit it (he's being fed expressed breast milk and I'm expressing milk every 6 hours or so) rather than being upstairs and having to come downstairs in the middle of the night. He's currently going 3ish hours between feeds.

I'm keen to get some sort of structure to the day as I think it'll help me and OH get a grip back onto reality, but I don't even know how to go about this... should I be putting baby upstairs in the day or? Meh! I'm clueless!

What was everyone else doing at this sort of stage?

Ooh - thank you for all your advice - that's a great help! I like the look of the website pol and I also like the look of the Ike chair - we'll have a look on Sat. And the thought of saving £200 has cheered the FC up no end!

Can't believe I'm going to be one of youse lot in just a few weeks! (think I'm still in denial.)

Reg, my small child is now nearly 8, so I can't properly remember the early days, but I think BFing hurt so much that I just put him in a 3 hour feeding routine whether he liked it or not. My Mum or the ExH would help comfort him till it was time. He soon got the hang of it, poor child, and learnt to take more when he was given the opportunity. (Could be why I have such a greedy child now though!!)

5 weeks old and eating for England! Half his clothes dont fit and he is out of Size 1 nappies.

Feeling loads more human today. Instead of trying to sleep after he finishrd eating at 7ish I got up and put laundry away, had shower etc which I think reminded me of being normal.

My preggo mate came round yday and she is 20wks. I look more preggo than her!

reggie deffo put dh up for adoption!

cossie daytime snoozing only in the bouncy chair.

that's fine silv, don't worry about that at all, be gratefull that he will!

I am! Honest guv.

Bloody throat still bloody hurts.

Can someone tell me about espressing and how to introduce etc? Or shove me a linky?

Glad you're feeling better today silver. You sound like me yesterday. Today I am feeling pants again. Fed at 1030, 1230, 330, 5am. Luckily I got sleep from 9-10 as well. Urrrrrhhhhhhhh. I'm not sure the weight=longer sleep applies to us. He must be on a continuous growth spurt.... which makes sense given that he's probably 12lbs already now. We moved out of size ones about a week or so ago - I realised when they leaked at every single change and looked a wee bit tight!!! Poor child.

Sometimes he does 3 hours, sometimes 4 and sometimes 2. It varies. I've stopped trying to work it out/write it down and just roughly try and stick to GF first routine but minus the expressing. It's easier and there seems to be more milk for him and less crabby grabbing at boobs now I'm not. I just make sure he has an hour sleep first thing, a lunch nap for 2 hours, an afternoon sleep and then try and start the evening 2 hour feed/bath/feed between 5 and 6.

Reggie we try and put him down for naps in his room in the day, or if I can't be arsed in his buggy in the living room with a blanket over it so it's dark. That's the easiest as I wheel him about a bit and he falls quickly so I can get on with the washing go on mumsnet.

Cunty - ace about Weds. Will message you all shortly with my suggestion.

Mr Moo tried to give a bottle the other night and we failed unfortunately. He screamed blue murder and I think it didnt help Mr Moo's confidence. I guess sometimes he will take a bottle and sometimes not. I know we need to persevere but in all honesty I really can't be arsed at the moment. I just feel like getting through the day and keeping him happy is enough. Maybe I should leave it a few more weeks and then reintroduce bottle? Once he's hopefully sleeping a bit more in the night? Thoughts?

Alpy the dog thinks he owns the bloody chair as well. I constantly have to pretend to sit on him so he'll move. Last night he knocked the lamp over next to it trying to get his ball. Amazingly I didn't shout or go ape. Mr Moo and I acted like adults. I'm still forcing him to go to IKEA though to replace it.

Another observation: I smell weird. I mean not weird, but I'm convinced that the hormones are making me smell slightly different. Not bad just different. Has anyone noticed anything like this or am I just disgusting? I do wash everyday I'd like to add.

MrsFC it's so exciting your little one will be here soon!!!

reggie I didn't really have any routine at that stage, well, none for Bear at least. I tried to be dressed each day by 10am with the washing up done - but Bear was allowed to do whatever he wanted. He formed his own routine in time. Trying to stick to a set routine at this stage will drive you mental. :( 6 weeks is the breakthrough stage!

silv I think the bouncy-chair stuff is just as someone else said - you're not supposed to use it instead of a bed.

Yes, I deffo smell different - or maybe sense of smell is more sensitive?

Silv, what do you want to know re expressing? it's good :) I do it most mornings during first feed, express from one side while feeding from other. You can store milk in fridge for 8 days (at the bottom at the back, so less affected by temp changes from door opening), and in freezer for 6 months. Also I often express when DH has given the bottle so I don't miss a feed.

Reg I am aiming for 7/10/1/4/7/10.30 and 1 night time feed times although it doesn't often pan out like this. Today she was famished at 9.30am and last night she could not wait til 10.30pm so we play it a bit by ear but these are the kind of times I aim for. Sleep is much more sporadic. She sleeps a lot during the day and not much in the evening. I try and keep her more awake in the afternoon but it is hard!

With regard to expressing I try and do it twice per day, once around 10pm and then around 8 or 9am depending on whether I take mini Okie to nursery or not. I give 1 bottle of expressed milk per day at 10.30pm (I express at 10.00pm to maintian the supply). I freeze it all.

Moo when are you offering the bottle? And how much are you giving him?

silver the only advice i can offer on expressing and offering a bottle is limited - we kind of did it in the middle of the night in a fit of desperation because little one didn't want the tit and had been on hunger strike for 2 days.

I'm using 2 pumps to keep up with demand - a medela swing (on hire from midwives) and a philips avent electric one. The philips is more comfy for expressing but takes a bit longer and is more complicated to set up, where as the medela just sucks the milk out of you without a care in the world.

As for the bottle bit, baby just took it - though we are using dr brown bottles as we found the philips avent ones not so hot on the colic issues. The dr brown teats are a bit softer than the avent ones to, and the number one on the dr browns has a faster flow rate that the number one for the philips.

I'd say just stuff it in and see what happens and introduce slowly...

Not sure if I smell differnet or not. Hmmm? Will ask Mr C tonight.

Talking of smells - is it wrong that I can't tell when the baby has cacked his pants? OH can smell it from a mile off but I wouldn't know if he'd had one brewing in his nappy for a week.

Am I broken? I expect so, and probably smelly as well, I mean if I can't tell if the baby stinks what chance have I got of knowing if I do?

OMG I am doing the boob nearly every hour today and has only had 3 cat naps. Routine? Whatever... He's more grumpy today I think. Maybe like me. I cannot fathom this baybee.

reggie I can def tell dirty nappy... get your hooter checked out!!!

just rang hossie for my perineal consultant 6 week app and basically got told that nothing until end of Jan. Er wtf? She told me to call the service manager as no capacity blah blah an they are building another clinic. I got the right arsey snotty cow with her and said I've just had a baby, major 3rd degree tears and its your job to sort it out not me - I have the right to a 6 week app! Guess what? I'm going back next week... amazing isnt it. arses.

moo oo 3rd degree tears? Ouch. My severe absenteeism on here means I must have missed your birth story - but now the sicko in me thinks I should go find it so I can sympathise emphatically with you (and thank my lucky stars I came out of it with nothing more than an annoying bum berry that disappeared by itself after a couple of days).

As for hooter - I think many years of 40 a day may have fluffed it for good... though oddly I can smell out a smoker from 100 paces now I've given up.

yes okie what are you doing to this child? Please to share secret? I would like a nice regular feeder please.

reggie very fast 2nd stage and 10 llb baby not a great combo. He whizzed out in a few pushes and left me not exactly in a great state. I am lucky though as most of the tears were fairly internal (back and middle if you get my drift) and my perineum was left intact amazingly apparently. This has meant reasonably good healing and not too much discomfort other than swelling. I think it's far worse when the tears are on the outside. I was also fortunate to have the perineal gynae consultant on call that day for my 2 hour stitching afterwards and as St G's a teaching hosp I can remember her explaining what she was doing as she did it (I had a spinal block). I've had my stitches complimented many times so I think I was lucky. The worst bit was the effects of teh blood loss which just fucked me over for ages and only in the last week have I felt anywhere near normal. I wouldn't change any of it though - he is so perfect adn scrumptious.

I've just eaten a quarter of celebrations tub. oops. Tried on my fat pre pregnancy jeans this morning. Couldn't get them over my thighs. Grrrrrrrreat. I am resigned to my x 2 tracksuits for the foreseeable future.