June '05 mummies 4 - the one where the babies get bigger and we get smaller!

[katzguk]

one new thread just for you lynny!!

Morning All

Was woken up twice in the night by DD which is most unusual, she seems to have terrible wind at the moment and think it was that (no poo for 2 days and unbelievable farts), but gave her tummy a massage this morning and lo - a poo! , so lets hope thats that sorted! nb: Massage classes were well worth it - I have also made 2 local mummy friends there and went for a coffee with 1 of them yesterday, and had a really good time swapping birth stories, chatting about boobs, nappies etc.

Charlie - Top Shop seem to have personal shoppers in major city ones, check their website they have details on there www.topshop.com On the massage class, they expect babies to cry, I spent half of one class rocking dd, but as you can see from above I would really recommend it.

Lippy - Pah to skinny 16 year olds. I took my 62 year old mum to TS recently and she bought on of those really full skirts, which looks fab on her!

Bubb - ds sounds like such a patient little fellow. You must be proud of how he seems to deal with stuff and sleeps ok in his boots (and a half done up sleepsuit ).

RHM - Hope you all get well soon! Mam bottles seem good to me, although 2nd time I tried dd wasn't impressed, but I think milk wasn't warm enough, so am going to try again.

Jonah - Oh what a nightmare being stuck in town like that. I dread stuff like that happening, glad you got a cab eventually.

Coop - Did bikini wax seem comparitively less painful following childbirth? Or still an eyewatering experience? Not sure I will need to go soon, as with post pg hairloss I seem to be balding 'down below' sorry TMI!!!! - but I kid you not, its looking sparse .

Trib - If its north of Watford its North as far as all londoners are concerned. If DH has his way, dd will be supporting Watford actually - the mighty hornets being his team. Although she has got a very fetching (not) Barcelona team kit sleepsuit, from some friends of ours.

Lynny - fingers crossed for you.

Mrs W - Glad the wedding went so well. I think we all need to practice our Aunty and Dad dancing, all the better to embarress our offspring in the years to come.

SFX - ROFL at the breastfeeding cafe - boobs out and cake, sounds perfect - I do my own version of that at home .

KVG - We have dd in her buggy, but it does recline pretty well (we've had her in it from about 4 weeks ). As she sits up fairly well now I don't think it can hurt and she isn't in it for hours at a time.

Tea - Loved the story about your ds, will be repeating it for dh when he gets in - classic!

Have to go now and sleep - will try and catch up on more later.

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Ola!

You have all talked far too much and I am having a manic, non stop day and cannot possibly cath up

Lynny - test, test, test!!!
You can start your own thread and have the whole MN community holding your hand while you do it!
it has been done a few times before

I am sure it is nothing, test and stop worrying about it!

Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Afternoon ladies! Not really following welshie's Sleep Lady advice quite yet but ds is down in his cot for his lunchtime nap, which is good. Dh has put himself to sleep in the living room. I am awake and supposedly doing the laundry, hence why I am here instead

Messenger: I am on Yahoo, MSN and ICQ, clearly having nothing better to do with my life. My Y id is as per the Yahoo group where our photos live. I use a chat client called Trillian which keeps all my chat ids together so I don't have three messengers running all the time as that would be mad. It does have the feature though of sending messages when you're away from the PC or haven't pressed any keys for a while, hence why Lynny got a message from me saying "I am currently idle"

Glad we all approve of Hebden Bridge. Alas we cannot move there because it is just too steep for dh, it nearly killed him just walking up the hill to my aunt and uncle's house. But thinking maybe about somewhere nearby of a flatter nature.

Lynny, when Jess is a stroppy teen you may want her to go away backpacking, just a thought What a bugger about your phone.

Charley, still occasionally using the sling but ds has to be in the right mood for it. Well done on doing housework whilst wearing it, I was under the impression we had had babies to avoid doing housework, I think I maybe didn't read the t's and c's of motherhood properly.

tea, another classic from ds. He's a star.

In sadder news, the funeral for the little girl who died (dd of friends of friends) is on Saturday, then she's being buried on Skye on Monday. Another friend of mine is having a Mass said for the family at her local church; I don't really 'do' religion myself, but it'd be nice if any of you Junies who are churchgoers could say a prayer for them. I'll just be keeping them in my thoughts on Saturday and Monday.

hi again - thanks for yr messages. Dh got s ome anti biotics and they are starting to kick in - still feeling grim though poor love (have to confess a hint of envy for the all day in bed ...)

Katzguk -bottle: erm ....don't you just have to do the mexican stand off til the little critters take it from sheer hunger???? I haven't had the heart to try this as I don't HAVE to give him a bottle yet.....but I do remember reading about this last time and you just have to keep going til they take it.

Welshie: sooooo tired too. thought I might be getting better sleep now 3 months has hit but it's getting worse! My own fault as mummy is the dummy, but v difficult to get out of this when breastfeeding. I blame the colic (heh heh). When I can get it together am going to try and get some advice.....you got any?

Mrs W - grobags. I've got a v light summer one, so yes I do put a blanket over the top to make him feel nice and cosy.

routine - no not really no point in stressing about such things. Trying to avoid all books to compare my lazy mothering to.

must go DD sprayed perfume in her eyes today (don't ask! theres always something )so will take over from the cuddling by DH and let him go back to bed!!

wow i think we should get te bst award for chatters of the month lmao

Afternoon ladies, thanks for all your support with my first party, lol went really well 8 girls turned up despite the weather. My lovely nursery friends turned up to from near Hornsea. they wer the one gigling in the corner.
me and and my son girlfriend tried outfits on lol me ina caberet outfit, and her in a air hostess outfit, good fun.

So we didnt do bad sales were about £90 but some of he girls havnt orerd yet and i did manage to bok another party so went well for first party. Did miss my baby boy though he was fast asleep when e came in put him straight in his cot ans he slept till 5 00 am this morn.

Was a fun nite, i really enjoyed it and so did my friends, so well just have to see how the next one goes.

Were of to butlins tommmor skegness for our holiday long weekend i cant wait just me hubbby an william.

Re grobag i put mittends on william too, Mrs W
and a waffle blanket you know with holes in, and hes fine, as he wwas waking up with very cold hands i wa very upset, so this works for us.

RHM sorry your all ill get better soon hugs xx

Jonah what a nite mare for you going home, taxi drivers say the funniest things lol

Coops when you come back to the UK we will deffaintely have to meet up some where central.

Charleypops im on messenger will cat you my addy.

Lynnny hunny please take a test you know we are all here to support you. Im so gald you can have some respite this weekend, its so nice just been with hubby i know and when wills stays out, its nice to be a couple again.

Mandy great post, its nice to see your getting out and about i know i will be now that ive bought my maclaren triumph will looks comfy in the cosymuff.

Mr W lvely to meet you, and all the other girls katz, jonah, Lua, im so looking forward to meeting again , my sis so loved william she cant egt over how much hes grown and she is comming on lovely, shes 30 weeks pregnant now so we talked about the birth, and her pain relive if she feels she needs it, she very small my sis gill she started at 7 stone and has put on 2 stone now so i just hope she can cope with the birth. If need i will be there to hold her hand, she has alovely nursery all set up for her baby and is planning on breast feeding too.

KVG love the stories of you ds awww

re meet up for all the junies, w will have to ecided where and maybe bok somewhere? and maybe bring partners too.

right im off william is bored chat later xxxxxxx

Ladies - I heartily recommend Goal! OK so it is about football but not deep football - if you enjoy the odd international/World/Euro Cup games you'd be fine. The leading man is just drop dead gorgeous - yummy. With that and the chocolate raisins and a little boy who slept through the whole thing, I feel positively rejunvenated.
RHM - don't know how useful my advice would be but happy to share some thoughts, let's have a few more details about what the problem is....
Trib will definitely say a prayer for your friend's dd - what was her name?

Evening Ladies,

Gosh, you lot can talk, can?t you?

Trib, I have to disagree. As a girl who never got an engagement ring, I could thing of one v. good use for a diamond ring . I keep mentioning that I think its high time my DH starts the ?eternity ring? fund ? if I didn?t get diamonds when we got married, now I?ve given him a son, I think I?m a deserving case?..

Re grobags ? I don?t use anything over them. DS?s hands get cold too and it worries me a bit, but he hates hates hates having his hands inaccessible to his mouth, so I never cover them up. If we go out with the pram, although it means he?s not as well covered, I have to leave them out as he gets really stroppy if I don?t.

Tea ? keep up with the DS stories, they make me laugh so much. Bless your little angel.

Trib ? my thoughts will definitely be with the family of your friend?s DD. How old was she?

EYM ? really glad the party went well. Good for you!

We?ve had a lovely day today. I had my first baby massage class this am (charley, my DS peed everywhere and then had a proper grump at the end -no one batted an eyelid). It was so lovely and I highly recommend it. We then went for a walk round a National Trust park with a friend and her baby, which obviously involved a cuppa and a lovely piece of cake. Then, miss organized here, also made it to Sainsbury?s, so feeling virtuous and not a total failure and running a home.

Hope you?ve all had good days there. Must go, there's Eastenders and the Bill to watch and chocolate which wont eat itself. Can I confess here that i quite fancy at least 1 of the cast of The Bill. I'm quite embarrassed by this

sooooooooooooooooo lynny?

thanks for the bottle offer but i don't think the problem here is the bottle but the lack of technique. so we are going to have a sucking school. i'm going to use a dummy to convince dd2 that bottles aren't evil

Jonah, my ds hates having his feet covered, to the point where even when it's raining he insists on having the cover of the pram unfastened at the bottom, so his little feet (suitably covered by babygro or socks) can poke through. Mad thing.

Dh is next door trying to put him to sleep a la Sleep Lady's recommendations. Am fighting the urge to go in there as I know it won't help to have both of us doing it.

The little girl had just turned 2

You didn't get an engagement ring, that is shocking. I've been hassling dh about an eternity ring for presenting him with his first-born son, so far he is sticking to his story that as my engagement ring is a half-eternity jobby that'll do. Unfortunately as comptroller of the tribpot household finances I cannot justify the expenditure, hey ho. Am trying to decide whether to sell dh's sportscar, perhaps could buy one from the profits, hee hee.

Cor, Sleep Lady's advice worked! She said to put him on his side and rock him gently back and forth, don't pick him up. Dh decided to do it in his own style, on dh's back. When that didn't work for c. 40 mins he put him on his side and he was out in 2 mins

hey all,

am starting to think i may need to ring the sleep lady as well. three weeks on and i haven't had three hours continuous sleep. last night he woke every two hours (on the hour which made it worse somehow).

Tribpot - really, really good luck. Also would be interested to hear about your friend who had a baby over here. Thinking that we might have number 2 here (in the distant future I hasten to add).

have read a thread that Lua linked to on wheter folk waited until 6 months to introduce solids) and think we might give that a go tomorrow - ds just turned 18 weeks, so hopefully not a terrible thing to do. feel better about that than introducing formula as would like to carry on breastfeeding for a while yet.

katzguk, i think you were talking about starting weaning a week or so ago. did you do it? did it go well?

jonahb - glad the massage went well.

Mrs W love the earth mother thread.

aargh, baby awake - sorry anyone I've missed.

i've not started weaning yet but thisn weekend will do

evening mumsss

a bit left handed just had a lovely bath with william and duckies lol

weve had a quiet day too,wiliam has benn lovely today, went down for naps no problem and hes falling asleep now with last feed.

re dimond ring i love my rings, especially my celtish wedding ring so im satisfied.

Lynny hunny hope your ok?

jonah massage sound lovely i need to sign up for ours i thnk they do different topics every 6 weeks
its with midwifes.

katz yer try the dummy. you need to get sucking action going, a finger is a good idea too, wish you luck hunny.

trib id keep the sports car so you can pose lol
like a moddle you lucky thing, weve got a bmw and i love our car, hubby wants to update it, im quite happy with it, im going to learn to drive this year.

welshmum im glad you enjoyed your picture, and ha a sleeping baby.

will check bk later lets hope all our babies sleep tonite xxxx

Ah Tea, me and DH thought your story was hilarious

Welshie, perhaps there's something in the air, DS1 has been 'testing' (to say the least) today. He keeps following me around telling me he doesn't like me. I know he's only three and doesn't mean it but it doesn't half get me down after a while. He's quite interested in family at the moment, so we've told him that FIL and MIL are DH's mummy and daddy, and that I don't have a mummy because she's dead. Now he keeps asking over and over again, 'where's your mummy? Your mummy is dead' and although common sense tells me he isn't doing this to be horrible, it's still upsetting me. Any ideas as to what I should do to get him to change the subject?

Any news Lynny? Hope you are ok.

RHM, you're a better woman than I am, I'm terribly unsympathetic when DH is ill and I'm stuck with all the childcare Hope he gets better soon.

KVG, hope you have a lovely break at the weekend.

Trib, that poor family . Another non-prayer here, but I will be thinking of them.x

Sorry to hear about your phone Lynny, how annoying.

I can't believe there's so many fabric suckers on here! DS2 is quite happy just chewing hands at the moment (his preferably but if not mine will do) so I won't let him read this in case he gets any ideas.

Lummox, I'm sure Lua's DS is the same age as yours and is having the same problems. I really hope weaning helps. I started weaning DS1 at 16 weeks and he has been fine - it's only recently that the advice has changed. I will be doing the same thing as soon as DS2 shows signs of being hungry for solids.

Not sure we've got any mittens but I could try putting socks on his hands to see if that helps, thanks.

Ha, loving the diamond talk! I'm on my second engagement ring - the first conveniently didn't fit very well after DS1 was born so I got an upgrade. Of course now I've got severe rock-envy and want a bigger one

Well I've abstained all week from wine after the wedding but since I've had a tough day I think I deserve a glass. Hope you all have a good night's sleep.x

Hello Junies

I have been away for so long I have no idea where to start. No internet for the last few weeks which has been just awful - but has cut down on the random amazon shopping so at least the credit card is happy.

Hope you are all well and the babies are doing well too. I can't believe that some of you are contemplating rejoining the antenatal threads so soon! Lynny, I hope you get the result you want whatever that is... I would love to have a 3rd (not yet though) but dh genuinely went white when I said that and has started voluntarily making noises about the snip so i guess that is out.

We've had a really hectic few weeks, it's been horribly stressful but we have finally moved and are getting settled in Bournemouth. I think I've found a school for ds and am just waiting for him to be able to start - he is so bored at home and is driving me nuts... I feel so bad for him, he's had a hell of a summer really but we have been having some frankly horrific behaviour from him lately which is really grinding me down and I do think that school might help with that. Coop, I saw your thread about your dd1 and I so sympathise, we've turned a bit of a corner with ds on that front but it has been awful, I've just felt like I was failing both of them.

Very happy we've made the move really, it's lovely down here and I think we'll be happy, particularly once we're out of the rented house and can get really settled.

Luckily dd is a very placid baby (I was due one after ds, it's only fair ) - she sleeps really well and has been feeding well too although the last week or so she has been really fussy and hard work to feed. I'm persevering with the bf but I'm getting a bit fed up with it tbh.

I will hopefully be able to keep up with this better from now on - yay for broadband being back on.

Welshie - on the sleeping front. He's now started not even going down at night, whereas we were getting a nice - do a good breastfeed, baby zonked put him down 7 -8 routine. He's still up now! I feed him, he wakes up when I put him in the crib, goes mad...repeat til exhaustion. Dh now rocking him (groan) to make it even worse.

In the night if he wakes he just comes in with me...and yes feeds. I figure that its too early for controlled crying (?) and what a nightmare anyway with a toddler as well. So how do I start getting him to settle? I've tried to rouse him slightly as he goes down see above for reaction........don't know if anyone has anything to help on this???? Would be nice to have more than a few hours sleep together.....

Lynny - how ya doing?

my DD is being very pink and adorable at the moment. She's really into singing and dancing. Yesterday she sang (loudly and out of tune of course) I love mummy! I love daddy! Aw....

MrsW, how for you. I am surprised your ds has got the hang of grandparents yet; my little niece refused to believe last year that grandad was actually her daddy's daddy. I think the fact that they could have a relationship that didn't involve her was too much for her! Anyway, I hope you can get him off the subject soon, it must be v upsetting for you, although of course he doesn't mean any harm, he's probably just puzzled at the concept and that's why he keeps asking.

EYM I fear it will take more than a sportscar to make me look like a model Although perhaps MrsW and I could burn up the Leeds ring road together, what do you think?!

Will make sure I bring my Thelma and Louise headscarf and big glasses for the Leeds meet-up Trib (bagsy I get to sh*g Brad Pitt )

evening all

quite good day although dd not quite back to her old self. lets hope for a restful night.
today she went down to dh singing, he is feeling proud of his soothing powers but honestly i think she thought sleep to be preferable to that out of tune cacophony

diamonds- dh has been informed of the correct present for when wife bears child - diamond earrings. my MIL agrees and i am sure will reeinforce this. we agreed this can wait until financial situation is more stable.
btw love my engagement ring, speaking as one who does not like a lot of jewellery, i got an old ring who used to belong to one of his grandmothers.

grobags- i have used them from the start and really like them, the ones i have been using are 1tog so we just vary what she wears according to weather. might get a 2.5 tog if it feels necessary. i never put anything on top. from what i have read its normal for babies to have cold hands. its far more dangerous to overheat.

EYM- glad party went well, good for you

trib- so sorry about little girl, will keep them in my thoughts. parents should not have to bury their children.

jonah- massage sounds really good.

lynny- (you are keeping us in suspense)
i like the chat with jess.if ours does not want to leave and see the world we might have brought the wrong child home. still, think i will tell her that the earth is flat and there are monsters at the end of the horizon - lordy if she dreams of doing half the stuff her father and i have done i might have a heart attack

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