December 2008: because i unwittingly finished the old thread

[waitinggirl]

oops. sorry. didn't realise i was post 1000. hope people find this...

Right Beans, I'm doing that from tonight and putting dd in her room. Or maybe I should wait for ds to be better as he's been waking up in the early hours all congested. I'll keep you posted. She was 12 weeks on Monday so I feel it's high time. That way DH will get more sleep [maybe]

Right DH going to be another hour at least so dinner paused....

Beans that story is GRIM!! I only ever used pads / towels when I was post birth but didn't know even now that you are allowed to flush them even ripped up?

Deids cross posted with you - so sorry about your Grandad Has it spread quite bad? Or have they not said yet.

Your Sudocrem story really cheered me up this morning when I was feeling ill!

I have completely over posted today. This is what illness and stuck at home does to you.

DS is not only scared of bubbles and Humpty Dumpty, but now his tent thing with a billion balls in it (In Summer it was outside but I put it up inside this afternoon and he freaked out)

Rubes they've not said how bad it is. He is on IV AB's for 2-3 weeks. Apparently itcan be fatal in about a third of elderly people and given his general bad health anyway itdoesn't look great. He was pretty out of it today tbh. I went with my nan and he reached over and grabbed her hand it just about broke my heart. After 59 years of marriage they still love each other so much.

Oh DB that's so sad, I thought things were looking up. Gosh the poor man. Hope you can have a good cry about it.

Rubs the FB comment, & I'm def not pregnant. Funny you should mention the sausages, when he was here my step father & I had a surprisely long conversation about how sausages in Australia are mostly beef & in UK they are usually pork.

Lightening, I love you I was actually reading your post when our neighbour knocked on the door to give us the package. The mailman left it with her yesterday. The boys were both so excited, and I am too. I had seen them a few times with DS1's name but DH always vetoed the purchase as we apparently have too many drink bottles, well also it was usually in some gift shop somewhere and I tend to go a little mental in gift shops. Anyway in short I, & the boys love them. DH liked that you signed it the lightenings. I'm so happy to have something with DS2's name on it!

Well we are home now and the boys are in bed. We have our usual Friday night takeaway and the weeks worth of masterchef, hooray!

The dirty pet stories are horrifying but making me giggle.

Right better go speak to dH.

Awww, DB, I am really crossing everything for you. He has come round so many times, I am so hoping he does it again. Thinking of you all.

Rubes, the thing is I don't think you ARE allowed to flush things like that down the loo any more. Beans, I think it was ok in 80s/90s but is frowned on now

I'm with your DS on Humpty Numpty, Rubes. I think he is quite macabre. And it's a horrible story as well, smashing into lots of pieces. So many of these nursery rhymes are so dark!

Enjoy takeaway night, those of you who are indulging. Just Veggie tonight? So DP isn't home yet I don't want him to bring me flowers (don't think he will though) I just want him to stop being so flipping snappy 67 times a day. Maybe things will seem different later.

Vag - how funny, I actually wrote Beef for some reason but meant pork! what I was trying to emphasise was that they were 97% meant and only 3% other rubbish added anyway, I didn't realise that it was more common to have beef sausages in Australia?

Let us know how your eve goes Lady. Hope it turns out ok. DH just got home and said he's not quite cheerful enough, then poured himself a wine!

Beans - ds and dd went to bed about 15 ago and ds quiet but dd started up a kind of half arsed complain / cry so will leave her a bit and see what develops

Oh DB the image of your grandad reaching for his wife just pulled so hard on my heart strings. I will be thinking of them tonight lots of loving, kindness going their way. I'll be thinking of you too DB.

Someone mentioned a few days back about their LO being scared of dogs. DS2 has been quite bold with animals but is suddenly quite scared to get close to them. He was fine at the safari park when close to them but in the car or behind the barrier, & we got very close to many including a lion. But he is really frightened in little city farms or petting zoos now. I'm not sure what is different.

Oh and Pubes I probably not the best to give suggestions about bedroom arrangements as we are co-sleepers but could you pop some White noise on in DS' room after he has gone to sleep to cut out the noise of DD. He may well sleep through anyway. DS1 slept in with DS2 & I a few weeks ago and didn't wake even with DS2 screeching next to him.

Can I just mention to all the flushers that i have lived in 2 houses where the, er, tampax and towels flushed down the loo (not mine, I must add) have caused over £500 of drain unblocking in each one. You must bin them, for your finances if not for the environment. God, it's so grim and gross to do, let alone discuss, but you need a small bin and some bags near the loo otherwise you (or the next owner) could get walloped for a huge bill. By the way, has anyone got a mooncup? I thought I should fulfill my lentil weavery wholemeal credentials by getting one but am strangely reluctant. Anyone had a go?

Wills - can I urge everyone to get one or at least get one of those kits from Smiths to do your own? You must not rely on the intestacy rules as things can work out so difficultly and sadly, at an already rotten time of course. The intestacy rules don't apply to unmarried people so you would be left in huge difficulties, plus it is reassuring to be able to make arrangements for the kids should the worst happen. It is awful to think about, but death is part of the circle of life and needs planning. Most high st sols will do you a will (or a pair) for a couple of hundred pounds, then job done and you just need to keep them under review. Very sad for you, Avo, and for you too, LadyT, as I know some of the heartache that has followed you since Harry died.

DB - I had a wee weep when I read about your GPs. They sound very dear. Am praying he comes through this.

Congrats on the job, PD, excellent news. When do you start?

Sympathies to all with sick babies or useless partners and husbands. God knows I've had my fair share of both over the last few months. Hope everyone bounces back soonest. It's my wedding anniv tomorrow so A and I are out for dinner. Very exciting. I am even going to wear a dress and my silver shoes! Unheard of, unless I am at work, when I do get my legs out.

Someone mentioned the lovely Verso a couple of days back and wondered how she is. Well, I am seeing her (and both lovely daughters) tom am at Ikea, so I'll get meatballs, tealights and a natter with a mate! Result!

Love to you all this chilly Friday XXX

Sybs I love the mooncup no more 'rummaging' than with a tampon and very clean. When you remove it the 'contents' falls into the loo no need to even see what your doing. Then easily pops back in.

Verso recently readded me as a friend. I didn't actually realise she had deleted me, but that sort of thing never really bothers me, though it's nice to see her status updates again. Say hooroo to her from me Sybs. One day I'd love to meet up with you in ikea, or at a wine bar.

Right the crying stopped, so far ds hasn't woken, the wine is open and peace is upon us.... fingers crossed....

I second Sybs on the flushers thing which is why I asked as the last place I lived , the owners told me that the previous tenants had cost them over a grand in pad flushings
It's a big no no as far as I knew too.
I'm not a pad user though. The mooncup sounds interesting

What Ikea Sybs? I'm off to Ikea (Croydon) myself soon for drawers that go in my wardrobes.... was going to order online but dh wants Swedish meat balls as per usual

Crikey I wonder if we should ask our tennants not to flush their sanitary items.

Veg, you must DEFINITELY ask your tenants to stop flushing. Trouble is, it can be months or years (yeuch) before the prblem comes to light. It is completely verboten in this gaff to put anything down the loo. I'd send them a bin and a polite note.

Rubes, I'm off to Croydon. I had a quick wander with T and M in their winter bit and it was fab, so off tomorrow for a longer mooch. DH has nobly agreed to have all 3 so I'm going to take advantage of it.

Veg, I'd love to meet you in a wine bar too. What fun we'd have. Is anyone Londonish up for a meet in the evening? I seem to have more success with them than in the daytime as there has been too much illness chez nous of late.

Vag, can you have a mooncup and a coil? I can feel the string if I rummage high up but I don't want the two to get entwined and, horrors, the coil to come out. I can't do baby no 4 at my advanced years!

Hatty, sorry, lovely to see you, go for it with number 4. I would if I weren't so ancient and skintola.

Do you realise we have all been chatting for over 2.5 years? I can't believe I've never met most of you, as we know each other so well. Long may it continue.

evening ladies
Gosh my first post on this thread and it's already page 4! What a chatty lot
Sybs I have a mooncup. I got it a few months ago and have got it in right now (TMI?! )
My experience has been a bit different from how Veggie describes it - I find it a tad messy because when I remove it it has, ahem, stuff on the outside as well, so I rinse it out in the sink then put it back in. I can leave it in for quite a few hours though (including overnight) and I can't feel it when it's in. It's got a bit to trim at the bottom and I've had to trim it right off because with it on I could feel it. It's really easy to put in, although I find removing it a bit trickier - but I'm still a newbie so am sure I'll be as pro as Veg in a few months.I imagine it wouldn't interfere with the coil as it actually sits really low down - much lower than a tampon. I went for the mooncup for 2 reasons, 1. financial, and 2. because I'm finding that tampons are no longer up to the job! I must be a bit too cavernous and I'd often be damp and yacky with one in, as though it's bypassing the tampon - no probs now with the mooncup . The environmental stuff is an added bonus!
avo I had an internal with a Phoebe on my belly. Quite an art isn't it?! I really hope you can get your periods/ ovaries sorted without too much trouble. I actually saw the GP this morning as I've noticed that my low mood is particularly bad around my period, so I asked about going on the pill and whether this might level out my hormones a bit. The GP couldn't say, as it affects different people in different ways, but she's prescribed it for me to try for 3 months. It's really odd to think of taking it - we've been married 11 years and have only ever used condoms (this is a TMI post and a half isn't it?!). Well actually I took the pill for a few months when we were first married but I vomited with the first few pills of every packet, and as my periods were so few and far between, I decided to leave my hormones to do their own thing!
LadyT is DP home yet? I really hope the air can be cleared so that your incredibly hectic sounding weekend doesn't have the added stress of unresolved conflict. You asked about my work situation - much better thank you! it was resolved fairly quickly and a line drawn under it, so things are fine now. And as for the Apprentice DH said he thought the kids at his school could have made a betetr effort! I loved watching it though - such compulsive viewing :)
Hatty hello Fab to hear from you. So glad you and your girls are thriving...and obviously loving parenthood if you're TTC no. 4! Keep us posted!
Hope all the ill babes and mums make a quick recovery. It's so horrid to loose so much precious sleep se your LOs suffering
deids so sorry that your grandad is so poorly. I'm praying for you. How are things with DH at the moment? Oh and sudocrem is one of P's favourite snacks!
I'm going out tomorrow night - my friend is turning 30 so we're off out for dinner Yum yum.
Well it's half term now so I might not have much chance to get on here for a while...see you soon

whoops forgot to say Thank you to WG for starting our new thread

Trace I have the same trouble with tampons they seem to be..erm...touching the sides, but I leak and when I take the tampon out it's practically dry! I'm not a very heavy bleeder but so maybe that's why mine doesn't go over the sides. I didn't realise you could trim it. I'm not sure I want to be a mooncup pro, not sure I could model mooncup wearing professionally, though you never know.

I really must go to bed, we are going apple picking tomorrow (I'm sorry we are starting to sound a little idyllic and waltons family aren't we, I promise we do yell at our children and get frustrated with each other). It's pretty much DS1's worst nightmare and we'll be lucky to get him to put one apple in the pale. DS2 on the other hand will put them in the pale but I'm not sure how many will make it in there without a bite taken out of it. It's going to be interesting, I'm looking forward to the cafe & farm shop. They season runs until the end of the month, so if DS2 likes it I might take him during the week. I'm planning to make apple juice & apple pie. Not sure if these things will happen though.

Sybs like Trace said I don't think they would interfere with each other as the mooncup is quite low.

Right orf to bed.

db so sorry to hear about your grandad. That is so lovely that he and your gran still love each other so much though. I hope we are like that when we are old.

Talking of us as a family veggie i just told DH that I signed that card the lightnings and we are considering changing our surname as it sounds cool. C, A, E and H Lightning, of Cambridge, England. Oh and that is good that you like the flasks, maybe you should tell us things you like that your DH won't let you get and we can get them and send them to you. He may get suspicious though.

Re flushing sanitary stuff, I have to confess I flush tampons too (well haven't for years as have had one period since starting having kids), and my mum also told me you could flush towels if you ripped them in two. Won't in future though. Actually I think I might try a mooncup. I don't find the idea at all weird sounds good to me. Not sure why it's thought of as lentil-weavery really.

LOL trace at your lose so much sleep/see little ones suffering comment.

Rubes re the sleeping, can you not shut the door of DD's room to minimize noise (using a monitor?), is it loads closer to DSes room than yours or something?? DD is already in a cot but at the end of our bed in our room as it is big enough. Our room is next to DSes but her cot is not on the wall to his room so haven't had any probs with them disturbing each other. They are both quite deep sleepers at the mo though (apart from at 5am in the morning for DS, don't make a noise then or he'll be up and won't go back to sleep again!) Fortunately though DD can shout for England in the day she doesn't really kick off in the night for some reason as long as you get to her in time.

I think we should definitely get a will done. Shall add it to the never ending to-do list.

Oh on the scared front, DS isn't really scared of much that I can think of, but there is a passage way on the walk to nursery where a dog lives. I have never heard this dog bark but apparently it is quite loud. Everytime we go there he says [unintelligble sentence] woof woof. Then stops. If you try and make him walk on he cries and says [unintelligble sentence] woof woof. CARRY CARRY. and you have to carry him (which is no mean feat with a small baby on your front). Bless. He usually loves dogs too, but I think DH may have jumped when he first heard it bark and so DS was scared too.

Oh and DS embarrassed me for the first time with actual speech yesterday. We went to the library to return some books and they were asking DS questions "What's your sister called", No response, nothing. Fine, just in a quiet mood.

I take out the library book which has a pop up spider which had to be taped back into it as DS ripped it out (but similar had already happened several times before we borrowed it as it was already covered in sticky tape). DS hasn't seen this book in about a month as I hid it as I was worried about him doing it again.

DS says, clear as anything with a big grin on his face "BROKEN!" the little bugger!!
My goodness it's late!!!!
Better go to bed.

Where invisible? She hasn't been on in ages!

veggie does your DS1's dislike of fruit extend to picking them then?? Will he not even touch in case he consumes them via osmosis?

Veggie: we went on an apple day last week - no picking but lots of local varieties to try. I got a recipe for apple butter (bit like jam made with cider) and fruit leather if you're interested. I tried the apple butter and it's easy and yummy. Takes a while though and you need jam jars.

I want to get a mooncup, my periods are annoyingly irregular atm (on the implant) so it would be a lot easier. The only reason I haven't so far is that you can't pick them up in Asda. Must order one online.

Lady: did DP come back suitably contrite?

DB: sorry about your granddad, he has been in the wars.

Ta for the reminder on the wills. I think a lot of solicitors do a charity will thing in Nov where they do a basic will for free and you make a donation to charity?

Morning. I promised dh he could sleep in and yay ds didn't wake at all until 7am. Hope this means he's feeling a bit better. Awful awful chesty sounding cough though still (as have I) and only wants milk again for breakfast. Almost went for the porridge then checked himself. Got meds into him though.

Well dd did her usual slept in her cot in her room for about an hour then just would not settle so brought her back down. Don't know if its wind or what but I think the fact that she slept almost 4 hours yesterday afternoon was half the problem so I won't be letting her do that again. Summer the good news is she never woke ds at all. Her room is closer to ds's than ours, and yeah we do close the door and use a monitor. There's our room, then a hallway and at the end of the hallways there is ds's room and dd's room is opposite so at least a hallway in between, and I think you're all right and as long as we go straight in and close the door behind us when we're sorting her I doubt he'll wake. Will see how tonight goes if I keep her awake more in the afternoon.

Sybs, we were planning on Ikea today (any excuse for dh as there's meatballs and Geoffrey Butler Cycles there in Croydon ) but forgot dh has to work at noon on call too [bugger] seems like he's doing about 75 days straight and then work in the evenings. Talk about burning the candle at both ends

Lady how did it go? You didn't come back on late so I'm hoping that means you had a good night in the end and not the opposite?

Sybs

Oh and Vag, yes it was noted that you were sounding terribly Waltons like. I was imagining you moving hime and having a white picket fence and a swing out the front Glad you mentioned it

that's moving home not hime. When are you moving home again?

Morning, folks. Well, gotta hand it to the little guy, he's got stamina . Back to shouting for milk in the night for three solid hours. Think it was because he'd been throwing food at the dinner table so i put him down without pudding, so he was a bit hungry. Does that make me really mean? I tell you what it does make me though - a bit stoopid. Not enough sleep the day before we talk T to stay with my mum for the first time (she's had hi here on her own before, but never at hers) and we'll end up not leaving the hotel as we'll be asleep! Oh well....

Living the mooncup talk, I am very easily led so have already planned to buy one after the birth of DS2. I can't see what's not to like.

Rubes, glad DS1 had a better night and wasn't woken by DD. It's so hard to get the daytime/nighttime sleep balance right, esp when you're so grateful for a break in the day.
I remember when T was about 6 weeks I left him sleep for 6 hours solid in the day. not a good plan.

SL, this is the problem with speech. I have a feeling it'll on;y get worse as well. They become right little dobbers. I remember WG having mixed feelings about her DD being able to do the sign for 'milk' because then she knew what she wanted in the night and it was harder to refuse her. T's latest litany is 'cakebiscuitspizza'. I swear he eats other things but you wouldn't know to hear him.

The will/life insurance chat has made me think and as soon as we have bought this house (and therefore have an asset to leave) we will draw one up. I did actually buy one of those DIY kits to do ourselves but if you're not married it's a little more complex and I thought it was more important to get it right and spend a bit of cash.

Right, better wake up satan himself my darling little boy. Have a nice weekend folks.