September 2010 - we've met our little ones now!

[comixminx]

Or most of them at least - there are some late September ones still to come!

I've also been swithering on whether or not to wake Aphra up when I think she probably needs a feed, even if she might well go longer if I kept her. So far I've gone for waking her to have her night feed (but trying not to wake her up too much, so I don't change her unless I know she's filled her pants) and not waking her in the morning, just leaving her to wake by herself (and I get to have a bit more of a lie-in).

No plans for christening / godparents here either. My friends did have a lovely gathering for their two children so I'm a not-godmother to their daughter, but that was as part of their regular Quaker meeting and I'm not a member of the Society of Friends.

My brother and his wife have been doing BLW so I'm thinking of doing it also, when the time comes. Why did the HV discourage you, cinnamon?

Snap Banana - we are having Pheobes christening on sunday too! And a little birthday party that eve for DS2 while all the family are around as he will be 3 on monday. Am going to host at home so have to pull out the cook books now and decide what will feed everyone!

I started letting Phoebe lead in the the night times and she is (so far) happier with shorter feeds. Also she flaffs and makes loads of noise but the minute I turn on the light she dozes off! I think I have for now found a happy balance of two bottles a day (gives me time in the morning and evening with the boys) and BFing the rest of the time.
Sassy - After the formula feeds Pheobe doesnt always go longer. Tho I think a lot of the time its comfort as she only latches on for ten mins. She is settling in her crib the same time as the boys now at night which is great.

I think cosleeping is more accepted now skyeplusarlo but I feel the same about telling people our sleeping arrangements! Both of my boys were in a cot in their own room from day one, we felt that as long as we check temp it doesn't really make a difference to cot death and that they wouldn't disturb us by the general grunting, moving etc others are talking about plus we wouldn't disturb him. I hear him well before he's crying but don't hear all the shuffles! I have been going to him as soon as I hear him but as, so far, he only wakes to eat and it's only once or twice a night it's fine.

comixminx she discouraged it because it's a faff that doesn't have any positives. She said it takes too long for them to wean off milk and it makes them fussy eaters as you allow them to pick and choose what they put in their mouths. Ds1 is a great eater now and loved all the purées I made him, had annabel karnal recipe book which was great so not sure what I'll do this time.

Arlo just woke for food after 4 hours. He was doing the usual grunting etc, DH said I'll change him, and I said check he's actually awake first, at which point Arlo went into full blown hungry crying. DH found it amusing that I'd wanted to leave it any longer! Hoping after this feed we might get to sleep for another 4...

Good luck Dixiebell!! Second feed of the night for me but Luke went to bed at 7 so pretty good really!

Thanks for the BLW thoughts from your HV, cinnamon. I think my brother & SIL's view would be that it leads to a less fussy eater overall because they have such fun with food right from the beginning but that could well be down to individual baby differences I guess!

I think it's really difficult comixminx, I have a friend who is against waiting until 6 months to wean. She knows a few people who have waited and their children are a nightmare with food so she uses that as her reason. I weaned ds1 at 5 1/2 months and he eats a greater variety than any of the children I have ever childminded (a small group I know but more than a lot of people have expereinced) so I don't think it's a bad thing at all but you will always find positives and negative for everything. Children all have their own personalities and I think that has a lot more to do with it. I love food, my weight has constantly gone up and down my whole life but my husband hates eating and doesn't enjoy food at all, just eats because he needs to!

Well only managed 2 hours, but that's better than yesterday! Might take my little man clothes shopping (for me, not him!) today. Need jeans and winter boots, although not sure how you're supposed to try things on with a baby in tow?

1 month old today!

You may or may not know this, as all your LO's are quite little, but when i had DD 10 years ago all the books and the MW's said wean at 4 months. It was news to me that you are supposed to wean at 6 now!
I think i'm going to get to 4 months and then whenever they show signs of being hungrier- i will start weaning. If that's 4 and a half months or 6months, i'll just go with that. I'm not sure why the advice has changed in the last 10 years. Might look into it, just in case there is a major reason.

Second jabs today........nooooooooo. Hate it. Went last time and everyone was sending their hubby's in. Wish i could. I make sure they see the HV then they know it's not me hurting them. Definately a negative having twins cos you have to see two of them suffering.

Hi

I did a kind of mixed BLW with DS (pureed and chopped up foods), I weaned him at 6 mths and continued BF till he was 2, and he eats a great variety of food (better than me!). I also credit the thing of eating with children, we eat at the same time as DS and have always had him at the table with us (had one of those clip-on-the-table highchairs). Also I think Id agree with you brother and SIL comixmix, enjoying food is a great way to eating well.

skyeplusarlo When I told my MIL we were planning to co-sleep with DS she looked , and then said that that was what poor people did!! And offered to buy a cot for us!! She´s got used to the idea now though and hasn´t asked this time round.

The WHO(world health organisation) has said weaning should start at 6 months+ for over 10 years but it was never pushed by our government until a few years ago. I weaned dc1+2 at 4 months with purees and it was a faff. DD1 is really fussy but she might have that from her dad.
Delaying till 6 months means their gut is more ready to accept different foods and there is less risk of things like IBS when you're older. They can also choose what they want and you don't overfeed them by giving them a full jar of puree. there is a book by Gill Ripley, cheap on Amazon which explains it really well. It encourages you to eat with them as well as the main way of getting them to eat is letting them takwe off your plate
The problem with waiting for them to show they are hungrier is this often appears at 4 months and is often a growth spurt.

Sassy feel free to hate me. I had such a bad time with dc3 not sleeping I was jealous of any mum who got their babies to sleep for any amount of time.

11+5

Definitely agree with eating with them, I think it's really important in teaching them to enjoy food and to see how to eat as well. I didn't know it had been that long Debs75 and also didn't really think about the 4 month growth spurt! So many people don't follow the guidelines but especially with the gut being more permeable to wheat before 6 months it's better to wait for that alone. My mum weaned both me and my brother with weetabix as the first food at 4 months. I have been invited to join the EAT study and was on a thread about it the other day. I have joined and will go for the first consultation but if Luke is in the early weaning group I may reconsider. I really want to help if I can as the amount of women exclusively breastfeeding until 6 months is very small but I don't want to put him at risk of any allergies later in life and I would never know if he would have had them anyway.

Had Luke weighed today and had my PND questionairre with the HV. He is 13lb 2 and I am fine. It's weird not having a baby pile on weight and I have to admit I am slightly anxious that he has dropped down a centile line, which I know is very silly. Ds1 was a pound heavier at this age and followed the 98th centile line perfectly. I know Luke is fine, feeding well, alert when he's awake, plenty of wet nappies and pooing every 3-5 days but I think as a mum you always worry!

7w+3

Interesting reading all the BLW thoughts. I hadn't really given it much thought but I realise now that 4 or 6 months is fast approaching. Think I 'll be on a book buying spree soon.
It's nice to read comments not all about bfing. Felt a bit like this had turned into a thread for that and as I feel so guilty for not being able to carry on feeding Jack myself I had stopped mumsnetting so much. Nothing against all you lovely mums....... I'm just a mope as I miss him feeding from me.
I think Jack's having a growth spurt. He's 6 weeks and 3 days and has, until recently been feeding at 11pm, 2am and 5am. Last night though he needed an extra feed and is taking an extra 1oz with every daytime feed.
Just when you think you have them sussed...................!!

Arlo is 13pounds 8oz!!
what a fatty!

2 months today

Hi everyone - just trying to catch up on all the news - haven't been on for a few days and I've missed loads!! Glad to see all is generally well!

Well Olly is now 5wks + 4 and is going from strength to strength. He was 7lb 12oz at birth and at the last weigh in early last week he was 10lb 7oz. He is having 6 and a half oz formula at every feed though! Sometimes he can go for 5 hours - most of the time its every three hours.

Someone mentioned about giving water? I have been doing this - seems to just tide him over to his next feed if he is getting wingey - just a few sips though.

He isn't sleeping too bad - anyone else got a proper Gro Bag? He seems to be going down a lot better since he has been able to go in his.....

We've been getting loads of smiles for a good couple of weeks now - and he's starting trying to chat to all his teddys. He is gorgeous!

Loads of pics etc on Facebook - not sure if anyone would be interested to see though. Let me know if you are.

Olly - 5+4.xxx

PS - can definately see Olly being weaned at about 4 months - no way on this earth is this hungry git going to last til 6 months!!!

Definitely interested chelle, post the link! I have a grobag but haven't used it yet as it looks too big for the Moses basket! Does yours fit? It's 0-6. Do I just let the excess length bunch up or what? Also what does Olly wear besides the grobag? And do you take him out of it to feed? Must sort this out as Arlo inevitably kicks his blanket off no matter how well I think I've tucked it in. Good kicker - future footballer?!

Hi Dixie - yeah Ollys is 0-6 as well - but you will be surprised at the fit! I would just try it on in case - i waited till he got to 10lb before putting him in it though.

I just put him a tiny bit higher up in the moses basket and let the excess hang over the end of it to be honest - he can go a bit higher up as feet to foot is to stop him wriggling under the covers - but the whole point of the gro bag is to stop this so therefore he can go a little bit higher up if you see what I mean....?!

I just put him in to a baby gro - no vest. He seems to be plenty warm enough in this and the bag itself.

I do take him out of it to feed as I always change his nappy before his bottle (part of our routine you see!) however I DP puts him straight back in after the nappy change whereas I put him back in when I'm done so he doesn't puke on it!!

I will try and post a link then! You will have to let me know if it works!!

In fact - can someone please tell me how to post a link to facebook!!!? Dunce here!

chelle1986 you need to type with the web address in the middle, just copy and paste it from where it says share this album with people not on facebook

awh beaditali so sorry to hear that you felt that way. You should ignore the bf talk and post something about what's going on with you. There's always more than one topic going on.

Babies had there jabs. They didn't cry as bad this time (seasoned pros), but Jacob has been out of sorts all day.
I asked the HV about the reasons behind weaning at 6 months and she said about WHO research and stuff to do with allergies.
I have a healthy cynicism (imo) about experts and research. What's to say they won't be telling our kids to wean at 4 months again because all the babies weaned at 6 month were ready before we weaned them and this has made them xy and z (iyswim)Nothing is static with research, they change their minds all the time. I'm still planning on waiting for the babies to let me know when they are ready, and hopefully i will have experienced enough growth spurts to know the difference. :o

Regarding god parents, i looked it up and it is 2 of the same sex and one of the opposite for each.

Yes chelle i definately want to see pics. Love pictures.

Thanks cinnamon i didn't know how to do it either!

Oooooo pics!!
Testing testing:
www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=285493&id=679243658&l=f6b8e6a0ef

www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=294672&id=679243658&l=be2ec9cf99

let me know if this works!

www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2069101&id=1177140781&l=eb01b2cfb8

Also if anyone wants to add me on facebook my email is:

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Fab pics beadit!!

Here you go guys! Let me know if it works! xxx

ps - thanks cinnamon

GORGEOUS chelle he looks sooooooo adorable! .... requested you!