September 2010 - we've met our little ones now!

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Or most of them at least - there are some late September ones still to come!

Ds1 still doesn't like sweets at 26mths Chocolate is another story! my sfil is always saying I'm mean not to give him chocolate and juice. He had a fit the other day in front of fil cos there was juice in his cup & he wanted water. Thats why I don't give it. My rule is that I don't give him chocolate etc so other people can.

Oliver slept through!!!!! 10pm-5am! He had his 1st jabs yesterday so I think it could be that but I can always hope.

JodeyLea how horrible. I have 2 sicky boys. I worried about ds1 but with Oliver its just an inconvenience because of all the mess! They weren't colicy tho. Have you tried Colief? I've heard thats supposed to be good.

A totally un-baby related question for those of you with older children. I have just filled in a school application for ds1 and have been advised to only put the school I want him to go to and no others. We are in the catchement area and last year they only refused on child from reception and they were not in catchement but if I don't put a second choice and he gets into a school I can't walk to I will have a total nightmare as we only have one car and I don't have it all of the time. I have been told that if you put a second choice they are less likely to give you your first choice as they think you don't have a strong preference and I do. What do you think??

That's great bananastew! Luke slept from 8.30 until 3.30 and I went to bed at 9.30 but I'm still totally knackered. Need a day in bed I think!!

Jodylea You may have already read that Jacob has reflux. I tried gaviscon and it didn't work. You had to mix it with water and it just meant that he throw up even more liquid. Reflux isn't like being sick once a day thou cinnamon Jacob can be sick 6 times after one feed!
He does seem to be growing out of it now jodylea and he will be 12 weeks on friday. It is nowhere near as often now. He can have whole feeds now without being sick.
Also I can't stress how much what you eat affects how windy and upset they get. I've got two different babies now that i've cut loads of things out of my diet. It's a pain in the ass, but soooo worth it. It really makes you stick to it when you have days of calm and then you eat something that affects them (makes them windy) and they are crying for hours.

I have a dilemma. Dp and myself have been invited to a suprise 30th birthday party. I feel i can't go cos i'm breast feeding and from what i've read on here, expressing is a pain and to be truthful spending £70 on a breast pump (double electric one) seems a bit expensive for the amount of time i would use it. I have seen ready made aptimol in supermarket and i'm thinking i could breast feed them both, right before i leave. My mum will babysit and give them aptimol when they get hungry and then i will come back about 2 hours after that, so that i am home for when they need feeding again. (I won't be drinking.....boo) How much will this affect my milk?

No sassy34264 ds1 was sick loads when a baby but I just meant the even when he was bigger he was still sick every day, was told that when he walked his muscles would be stronger and he's stop amazingly it was a few days after he started walking that I realised he hadn't been sick! When he was a baby he was sick after every feed often multiple times, and threw up what felt like at least half of the feed and he was never happy being flat which is apparently another symptom. I had massively engorged breasts which used to spray everywhere so for the first probably 12 weeks I felt like I was constantly covered in milk and sick :(

I don't think it will affect your milk at all if it's just one evening for a few hours. Do you have a children's centre near you? If you do they will loan you their electric breast pumps. I used a manual avent one when I went back to work and I could expressed 6oz in 10-15mins but I only had one baby to worry about! I agree not worth buying one if you only intend to use it once but if you can borrow one might be worth a go if you're worried.

Ah, sorry cinnamon misunderstood. :o

Well, i might not be doing it once, as we have been invited to a new year eve's house party. So maybe twice! So rock and roll. ha.

I went around Tesco the other day with a big, very noticable (esp under their lights) white sick patch on my shoulder........I really don't give a damn! If i took everything off (both myself and the babies) everytime it gets sick on it, we would be going around naked and i wouldn't be able to get out of the front door with the pile of washing there would be. I have to be sicked on at least 3 times before i would bother......how bad is that?! I'm laughing as i type this. Poor DP, i've never been high maintenance when it comes to personal grooming and it's pretty hard to be any worse, but i'm managing it! I've used a razor once, since babies was born, i've yet to put make up on and i found my face cream in the suitcase that i took to the hospital the other day and quipped to my mum, 'ah, there's that face cream that i put on religiously'. ;) She just rolled her eyes. I've never heard of cleanse tone moisturise, and my eyebrows are as thick as they were the day i was born. ha. I have had my hair done, however Jacob puked in it a few hours later, so even that wasn't glamorous in the end. Hey ho. :)

sassy I definitely subscribe to the 3 sicks rule for changes! Has to be serious poo leakage to warrant a change in my book .

Arlo woke at 4 last night and decided that was it for sleeping for the rest of the night. Daddy got the pleasure of entertaining him until he left for work though.

4 wks 1 day

It is really miserable though he was a happy boy this morning and gave me 3 big smiles which makes all the fussing so worth it. It was lovely to see his little personality coming through rather than the crying and discomfort of the reflux.

What kind of things did you cut out Sassy? Did you keep a food diary initially? I am more than prepared to cut out foods from my diet.

Glad to hear Jacob is growing out of it. It gives me hope for the near future. Poor little fellas. It breaks my heart to see him in pain. I have cried quite a few times just because he gets so upset and I can't take the discomfort away for him.

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Jodylea I noticed that both babies would cry and be windy and wriggling at the same time. If it would have just been one of them, i wouldn't have give it a thought, but because it was both, it became obvious that it's when i eat something. Things that i have noticed that make them upset are; Vinegar, oats, breakfast cereals, wholemeal bread,(white bread is fine for me) Coca cola (fizzy pop in general) Anything spicy, curries, chilli. Tomato ketchup (has vinegar in it) Lots of fruit. They were particularly bad after i had blueberries. I've noticed that bananas and apples don't do anything so although i haven't tried all fruits, i just stick to them. Also yogurts (they have fruit in.) I kept a food diary and the day i stopped eating porridge and yogurts, they were instantly better. I would eat these two things religiously every day. Now because my diet is so limited, i notice if i have something diffreent if it affects them. At first you eat so many different things, that it's not always possible to know which one it it. So you just have to eliminate things one at a time. It takes a while, but mine don't cry at all with wind now, from one day to the next....not once. The only time they cry is cos they are hungry, even if i lie them down and they have wind, they just wriggle and moan to let me know and i pick them up and then they burp. It' brillant.

Hi all
Sorry to hear of those struggling with reflux. I had the same with DS2 and it can be difficult and upsetting.
Sassy - It wont bother your milk supply if its a one off every now and then but you might get quite uncomfortable depending on the time lapse. They may go longer after formula for their next feed.

I am quite chuffed with myself this morning. I managed to have all 3 children in bed asleep at 8pm last night!! I had a whole hour and half to myself before Phoebe needed to be fed again and even that was feed change and back to sleep. Mind you it is all helped by the fact that she is an angel! I kept expecting things to change but 6 weeks and two growht spurts later and she is still the most placid, happy and now smiley little thing. Maybe its true what they say about awful pregnancy - easy baby?? Cant believe my luck. Mind you still not expecting same miracle tonight.

I too eat yogurt and cereal religiously so will start by cutting these out. I also drink lots of milk which I have heard can be quite hard for babies to break down. This morning I've had egg on toast for a change so will ensure I don't have milk, cereal and yogurt and see if this helps at all. Thanks for the advice Sassy. Fingers crossed. I can handle the sick, yes its an pain having to keep changing and washing but it really doesn't bother me. Its the crying and seeing him in pain and discomfort that I find hard to handle. You have so much love for these little bundles that seeing them upset and not being able to ease there discomfort is just awful.

I agree bananastew there is an alarming amount of pressure to 'feed' babies too early.
Still there is no need to faff around with purees either. When dc3 tuned 6 months we started BLW. We offered her chunks of veg and chicken and she fed herself. Well mostly the floor at first but she soon got the hang of it. It took her a few months for her to realise that these foods sated her appetite but she enjoyed the whole weaning process and has a varied diet now. She does have some sweets now and again but she much prefers healthy fruit and veg and water.

Lucy is reliably sleeping through the night now for a solid 9 hours. She also has a good few hours during the day. How much are they supposed to sleep at this age?

She has very crusty eyebrows and forehead, what do you all use?

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Interesting that you think your diet affects the babies sassy34264, I have always thought it was a bit of an old wives tale. Not that I'm doubting you I just don't understand how if your food is broken down into amino acids, sugars, fatty acids etc and then those components are used to make the milk after it has no similarity to what it started, as so for my scientific mind it doesn't make sense! I think it's ok if you have your baby with you but I make more of an effort if I leave Luke at home with DH and pop out somewhere, people usually understand if you have a tiny baby with you

I thought about BLW with ds1 Debs75 but was recommended not to by my healthvisitor and at the time I had a lot more faith in them so took her advice! I waited until he was 5 1/2 months (would have waited until 6 months but I was going back to work and wanted to start weaning before I did) and he progressed very quickly to food with rice/pasta/lumps mixed in and was picking things up and giving them a go by 7 months. I found with Luke's dry skin I just used a lot of shampoo and it rubbed off and the skin underneath was lovely and soft. The book I had when I had ds1 said that at 11 weeks they should have 14-16hours sleep in total. I read it religiously with him and it really reassured me, this time I'm trusting myself much more

mammyg the thought that they will take longer to get hungry after formula, has crossed my mind. Could try seing how little we can get away with feeding them. ie, stop at half a feed and see if they can be pacified, if not carry on and then try again.

Jodylea I think eggs affect my two, but not 100% because i had beans with it, so can't be sure which it is. I 've just cut out both!

I hate you debs75 :o 9 bloody hours! I can only dream for that. They both fed 4 hourly last night but 2 hours apart....groan. I hate it when that happens. Was up at 1am, am, 5am and 7am. I'm glad i wear glasses cos they are hiding my grey face and dark eyes!

3am

I know what you mean cinnamon because i have read the same thing and i understand about the carbs, amino acids etc (although i'm not scientfic minded) cos i have a level 3 qualification in exercise nutrition but i totally believe it. If not, why do they both scream at the same time? Why, has there been a big improvement in crying and windiness since i changed? (rhetorical questions) I can't explain it- if the answer isn't food, unless i say it was a coincidence.

I may have baby brain, but what's BLW?

Baby led weaning :)

Ah. Wasn't even on the tip of my tongue. :o
I started Chloe off on baby rice and yogurt. (not sure which came first)

Sorry to change the subject but does anyone know the rule for godparents. Is it tradition for the girl to have two godmothers and one godfather and the boy, 2 godfathers and 1 godmother, or vice versa. I have a godmother for each of mine and need to know before i ask my third godmother, which child she is having (so to speak).

I have 2 godmothers and 1 godfather and my brother has 1 godmother and 2 godfathers so I guess thats traditional. Mine aren't and dont intend them to be so otherwise don't know.

Hi all. Arlo & I have had a lovely day of meeting Granny and Auntie for coffee, now he is asleep like a little angel in his basket. If only that would happen at 4am .

I have no godparents and not intending for Arlo to be christened either, as we're not religious, seems a bit hypocritical. I thought it was just one of each though?

I've added some more pictures of Arlo to my profile if anyone's interested.

Also, can I ask you guys about night waking? Arlo never seems to actually get into full blown crying for a feed, and I'm wondering if I'm going to him too early. For example, at 4am last night (3 hours after last feed), he was making a lot of noises, straining, snorting and little cries, but actually I think he was still asleep, his eyes were closed still, but he was just being very noisy. I waited about 10 mins, but then got him up, changed him which woke him properly and then fed him. But I'm wondering if I should be waiting until he is actually fully awake before getting him up - maybe it's my neurosis that's making us get up for a feed, rather than his need. I mean, he did need a change, and then gulped down his milk for an hour, but perhaps I should have waited to see if he would settle again, rather than essentially waking him up? It's more that Daddy and I can't actually sleep when he's making those noises, but perhaps they don't mean that he actually wants feeding? Should I wait until he's full blown awake and crying? Think it stems from very start when he wasn't feeding properly, and midwife recommended waking him every 3 hours, perhaps I'm being too eager to feed him? Sorry, that's a bit rambling, hopefully makes sense. Any thoughts?

well they say a baby is REALLY hungry by the time theyre crying,so it depends how tired you are if you're up anyway then feed him id say.i dont really know though because we co-sleep,
head and waits to be hit with large objects
so Arlo just kind of helps himself at night

covers head and waits to be hit with large objects...

ooh ooh we did blw too,everyone thought we were mental though,i think its more accepted now.

Sassy I thought the tradition was 1 godfather and 2 godmothers for a boy and 1 godmother & 2 godfathers for a girl so the opposite to what cinnamon says! sorry to confuse things. I'm not going for tradition with Olivers, he's having my brother and sil and our best friends who are married. The same as his brother had! My friend had about 4 couples and 1 single for he ds so I think anything goes these days! Its Olivers christening on sunday. I'm very excited!

I know I'm FF but on the BF and food subject, a friend of mine had to completely cut out caffine otherwise her ds suffered terribly!

Dixie I'm the same. I usually jump straight up but last night I left him. He grunted & shuffled on and off from 2am-5am when he finally woke properly. I didn't sleep very well but I'm hoping if it continues I'll get used to it! Try it. it can't hurt!