July 2010 - The gang's all here, we're now getting started on our baby's first year.

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Starting our first post-natal thread since we are all over to the other side

Nope.

my kid sister says that my mum's always moaning to her too. it's so tricky to know who's in the right, although I tend to side with dh nine times out of ten. he rarely complains and I don't think my mum means to be a pain, but since my dad left six years ago she's paranoid about men hurting us girls. my brother's girlfriends can do .no wrong mind!

mlic my old friend, we missed you

tsc Im on the mini pill, no breaks but you should still get a period every month, it can make them a bit irregular tho.
Just dont take one late like I did the other day, was on tenterhooks for days til my period came, scared I was preg again!

evening ladies!!!
whoever wondered how long it is that sids is a risk after having a cigarette my hv told me not to handle lo for an hour my friend got told 4 hours from theres!!!! i admit i had a couple when i went to that wedding last week! but i didnt see lo til next day!
Lyndon is better today but last night he was horribly sick 3 babygrows in 30 mins and 5 bibs, poor thing, today since 3am he had only drank 12oz normally by this time he has had 30oz, it was a battle to get that in him but he seems happy enough!??
dh at golf day, had car fixed, walked through old town and saw loads of old friends found out a lad who was my partner in crime when we were 9 lives 100 yards up the road from me!!!!
went to the next sale at 7am, got a few nice tops for me and things for lyndon in 6-9 months to put away his wardrobe is bursting full and ive got loads of stuff to grow into in boxes, also a third off in sainsburys on all baby essentials so i stocked up on nappies, bath stuff, got teething stuff including those weird dummy things that are shapes that you put the gel on and the chew on, went to look at a new motorbike for dh and his friends own suzuki shop and they gave him a suzuki dummy to go with his matching bib!!!

tsc don't talk to me about bloody cooking. just did a terrible victoria sponge. think it was new oven's fault. GRRRRR!

on the plus side, Aurelia's been a dream since I started block feeding her last weekend. She's gone from crying on and off all day with wind and reflux to being a complete angel, just doing a half-hearted squawk when tired or hungry. She slept most of the day in her crib or pram and has now gone down for the evening in her crib. Have missed her actually.

Demon toddler still a demon though.

How old's your DD again? I'm guessing it's not your 2yo you've sent off with the cider

memphis that sounds mad re sids and time you shouldn't hold baby after smoking!

Poor Lyndon. Glad he's feeling a bit better.

mlic, we went for dominos! It's sooo expensive though :-s
now baking monkey bread. while baby and hubby sleep.

cakes i know time span seems crazy, he told his hv to piss off and when she brought it up again he asked her not to visit again, as she didnt get that if he waited 4 hours to hold his son he never would hold him!
tsc my mum always let me drink and when i turned 18 have never gone too far over the top, yes i used to be pissed all every weekend but ive never not known what i was doing, or had no control over myself, my mates with strict parents were totally crazy and a few of them still are and act like 15 year olds after a glass of wine at nearly 30!!! dont listen to them twats on aibu!!! hope you all have good nights sleep lyndon and dh are dead to the world, ive been on diet all week and put on a pound, so just had choc caramel sponge pudding with a whole tin of custard! now off to bed !!!

What do you all think/do about relatives holding your baby after they've smoked? I'm mildly pondering about my mother holding aurelia now but I instinctively feel it's a bit OTT. I work out the logic of how it can be a sids risk - anyone know?

tsc fwiw, i don't think that's unreasonable. it's not like 16 year olds aren't going to drink, is it?

my father (was brought up by him only) was pretty cool about me drinking non-spirits under-age but not spirits. He was an old hippy really so gave me the info and his view but let me make the decisions on most things.

Today, you couldn't get anyone much 'straighter' than me despite having lots of friends and boyfriends who have tried most things going, I've never had anything stronger than alcohol, didn't drink at all for about 15 years (gave up drinking at 18 til my thirties) and these days have a couple of glasses of wine maximum, never get drunk. So, in summary - i reckon trusting children to make the right decisions and learn from their own mistakes is the way to go.

Not sure how easy i'll find it to put in practice when my two are teens tho!

i can't work out the logic

tsc did dp give up because of frankie (cool name, btw)? what do you think you'll do going forward? would you like to remain a non-smoker?

just been looking online for stuff on the smoke-on-clothes thing. it seems that it's supposition and extrapolation rather than hard facts based on full research - which explains the differing amount of time quoted by hcp.

see this balance article from bbc: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8503870.stm

contrasted with hysterical article from the mail: www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1211825/How-cigarette-smoke-carpet-harm-baby.html

bit more indepth/scientific: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100208154651.htm

after reading all this, i'm getting a bit paranoid about visiting my mother as i think she does smoke indoors at her house (never around me/my dc tho) but otoh given we only visit for a weekend once every couple of months, i can't think it can be much of a risk really. can it? she also visits us and smokes outside, I do try to avoid her holding aurelia straight after smoking but i've never said anything to her about it.

i'll admit that i'm probably over-anxious about cot-death and stuff like this plays on my mind so i find it hard to know when i'm being OTT or not. i've had to use a breathing sensor pad thingy with both DCs otherwise i can't sleep at all for worrying and checking on them.

can you manage to just smoke when you're out or would you then need to smoke at home too?

it's annoying how little the medical profession knows about what's safe for pg/bf women and babies. when i've needed to get treatment for things (e.g ear infection) when pg or bf (i.e. nearly the last 3 years of my life!) there were so many drugs which the notes said that the safety was 'not known'.

MLIC - don't be embarrassed about not knowing what block feeding is. i didn't either til someone on here mentioned it last weekend - and i bf ds for 14m so you'd think i'd have stumbled across it! i'm actually that there's so little info from hcp on something that can be so helpful - i sooo wish i'd known about it with ds as i'm sure it would have saved us months of colic and no sleep.

The idea is to reduce your milk supply by reducing the demand on your milk production. Instead of switching sides each feed (or even during each feed) then you'd choose a time block (usually 3+ hours I believe) and stick on the same side until that time block is up, no matter how many times you feed in that time.

e.g:
12pm to 3pm left side only
3pm to 6pm right side only

This should reduce the amount of milk you produce (thereby reducing flow and hopefully the mad let-downs) and also mean baby gets more hind milk.

see my thread about it here for more: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1044957-Block-feeding-Please-tell-me-about-your-experiences

tsc - sounds like you'll do the right thing

and g'night y'all. i need to feed madam and get some sleep before the monster awakens and wants to sleep upside down in our bed.