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stac14 · 21/09/2010 21:39

Starting our first post-natal thread since we are all over to the other side Smile

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OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 12:51

chulita try this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/698307-Maternity-Exemption-Card/AllOnOnePage

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kkfairybrains · 23/10/2010 18:44

R u serious tsc?! Cant believe its fixed! i knew there was some things that were fixed in it but thats ridiculous. What a waste of time voting! mite just put a wager on myself! Im sure you'l feel a hell of a lot better after feel good medication of wine and choc! quite fancy some choc myself...
Im happy to go with any title for thread...
Well just sat down. Was working all day then cleaned the house, lit the fire and candles and am now sitting with a bottle of miller. Bliss!! dp should be back with ellie soon so will get her bathed and enjoy x factor

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memphis83 · 23/10/2010 19:15

evening ladies! hope all well trying to catch up on thread, can totally believe xfactor is fixed, more money for mr cowell!!
today we went swimming again and with the little wetsuit we stayed in 45 mins!! he loved it.
he is now on carobel the fucking stuff is horrible, had to buy £20 of fast flow teats as he wasnt getting anything through them, and hes still being sick, but now its thick snotty looking stuff!! stac asked her for ranitadine and she refused to prescribe it for babies! she asked how i was and i said the same and she just said oh ok, i said i wasnt happy about the lack of support ive had and she just said oh thats disappointing! she is a very posh timid tweed wearing woman but the way she talks so slowly she acts more like a stoned hippy!
just had a pizza and about to open a bottle of wine shortly, ive lost 3 pound this week i think i deserve to gorge today!!

OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 19:46

spirael great titles, cheers. vote for the 1st one.

Poor tsc

have you tried one of those desnotting devices on F? The only one I found works is a NUK one. It's totally gross but v satisfying Grin. Saline drops are ok plus child version of Olbas oil. That's my anti-snot arsenal anyhow.

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stac14 · 23/10/2010 21:00

sorry not caught up yet heres the new thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1068454-July-2010-Our-babies-are-growing-they-re-grabbing xx

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Needle · 23/10/2010 22:04

Ladies, I'm sorry, I can't even begin to catch up on the last few days, I;m slap bang in the middle of the weekend from hell. I'm ill, Gwen is under the weather, and my husband is being a total dickhead.

Cake, not wanting to open up a huuuge can of worms, I have fairly traditional views on men and women and their roles in a family, but primarily my objection is an economic one, to the dual income family, which was largely facilitated by feminism in the 70s. Before that, when housewifery was the norm, rather than the exception for women, a family effectively had something "in reserve" should the main breadwinner become unemployed or incapacitated, whereby the wife could go out to work and bring in something- not as much, obviously, but something. In a modern situation, if oth parties are working, there's no one on the bench, as it were.
More than that though i object to the fact that the dual income family has pushed house prices through the roof, effectively making it imposible for families on a modest salary to have the option of one parent staying at home, if they want to get on the property ladder, and I think it is a child's right to have one parent at home throughout its childhood.

Also, if there were fewer families with two parents working, more families could have one parent working, IYSWIM, and fewer families would have two unemployed parents.

Basically (and this is the REALLY controversial bit,) I think that employers should have more right to discriminate over who they hire. BUT, I'm coming from the point of view of someone who has never wnated to do anything but get married and have children, so I appreciate that my oppinions are very biased.

Now, If you'll excuse me, I'm off to nurse my tired bay, sore throat, bruised ego, and slighly flagging marriage.

Needle · 23/10/2010 22:05

baby, even.

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OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 22:46

needle sorry to hear you're having such a crap time. Why the bruised ego?

Really appreciate your honesty. It was actually refreshing to read such unapologetically unpc and yet thought through, intelligent views! Don't mean that to sound patronising by the way.

Bit of a dichotomy as I actually agree with much of what you say about families however as a dyed in the wool feminist, I'm looking for other answers to those issues which don't involve women (primarily) being without choices and power over their own destiny.

I wonder if/how gwendoline and future DCs will challenge your views?

Tis one of the big challenges of parenting I think - doing the best for your children which means you'll naturally 'impose' your own views to an extent but then also find a way to let them make their own choices and become their own person. As a slight control freak I think about this a lot. Aurelia's bound to become a pole dancer!

Ps Kinda weird that gwendoline (my grandma's name) and Miranda are both babies on this thread, are unusual names but were both on our short list for girl's names!

OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 22:55

tsc remind me, what was it that you did/do?

I loved my job and left it quite late to have children as I never felt broody or like it was the main thing I wanted to do in life. Now I am a mother I love it and my career has been stuffed into a box in the attic behind F's O-3 clothes!

OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 23:13

mlic sorry, meant to ask earlier - did you go out? was it good? do you feel shagged (not in a good way) today? Had dh been punished for his helpful comment?

we stopped at a winebar en route to the pictures and i got slightly drunk on a single glass of wine Shock albeit i drank it v fast.

OpensCryptandRises · 23/10/2010 23:20
Needle · 23/10/2010 23:53

Cake- It's like you're really really excited about the new thread, so you're trying to hurry up the end of this one!
You didn't sound patronising at all, by the way. I'm always wary of sounding like I'm giving people an economics lecture! I'm not advocating the removal of women's rights at all- I think that the fact that women have the freedom they do is fantastic, however - and there is kind of a paradox in what I'm about to say- sometimes I think in a troubled society, people have to reliquish certain freedoms, or change elements of their lifestyle, for the good of the group as a whole, which is where my point comes in about; if there were fewer dual income families, there might be fewer no income families, and therefore less money being paid in benefits, less tax and generally a more prosperous society. There is a danger that a society which concentrates on etheral concepts like "fulfillment" and "happiness" rather than old fashioned ones like "duty" damages itself as a whole, so, for example, (and PLEASE don't think I'm having a dig at women with successful careers, because I'm really not) but, the pursuit of a fulfilling career before having children means that there is a much, much higher number of women having conception problems and complicated pregnancies as they try to concieve in their late 30s rather than their early 20s and so the birth rate is dropping. Likewise, the choice of so many women to pursue careers, while benefitting their own family in the short term, in the long term makes it almost essential for future generations of mothers to work, in order to maintain a mortgage in linewith inflation.

Good grief, that was a convoluted paragraph, and now I sound like a pompous arse. Obviously, I'm not blaming all the problems of society on working women, there is obviously a lot more to the argument than the points I've made, I just wanted to keep it vaguely relevant!

TSC it cracks me up when you call me Dude, thanks for cheering me up! However a little advice: as the wife of a writer who has written a series of books that went Harry Potter Stellar, trust me, it's not all it's cracked up to be! In our house we have brief periods where he's working 24/7 and tearing his hair out and giving himslef a hernia, then looooooong periods where he's sleeping till noon, chain smoking and working a few hours a day before expecting his dinner on the table at six sharp and then reading the paper and chain smoking while you do the washing up, laundry, ironing, mending...

Ok. I might be a little biased because we've been having such a rotten few weeks, and actually, he does work incredibly hard, even though he's not writing at the moment- plans for the theatre are causing him a lot of stress. But it can be really frustrating when his person's work doesn't necessarily require him to work 9-5: it can make the workload seem very one sided, even if that isn't the case, and I have to shake myself sometimes to reming myself that I'm not the only one who ever does anything!
All joking aside though, if it really is his passion, i hope I can wish him lick without sounding patronising.

Needle · 23/10/2010 23:58

Urgh! LUCK! What is wrong with my typing this evening!?

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Needle · 24/10/2010 01:14

Oh God, really? It wasn't me, I swear.

Chulita · 24/10/2010 07:19

What are you ladies doing up at silly o'clock?

And tsc you should be in bed

needle fwiw I agree with you in a lot of ways. The idea of giving up certain freedoms for the good of the whole is one I definitely agree with. 2 of my brothers run the make wealth history website which is, at heart, the idea that you can't make poverty history but in order to help the poorer people we need to give up some of our wealth...anyway, it's off a tangent from housewifery but in a similar vein.

Right, that's enough philosophising for this time of the morning. I've made Peach muffins

Needle · 24/10/2010 07:32

As the finale to our horrible week? One of the dogs has vanished. Dh is heartbroken.

Chulita · 24/10/2010 08:12

Ack :( hope it turns up, it's horrible when they go missing. we had a dog who was forever running away and finding his way home...granted we lived in the middle of rice fields so there weren't many hazards around.

I just asked DH if he wanted an egg & bacon brekkie and he gave me a huge grin and then sat down to potter on t'inters. 30 mins later I asked him if he was going to cook it or should we just have muesli...the grin faded Grin I'm not up for cooking 2 meals a day, even on a sunday and it's not like eggs are that hard to cook! He won't do me tomatoes though, even though I always do his vile baked beans.

DesperateHousewife21 · 24/10/2010 08:41

I think Dylan slept the whole night in our bed last night, he woke at about half 10 and then I fell asleep feeding him, though judging by my tiredness I dont think his night was TOO bad.

Going shopping with my friend today, going to get Dylan some bootees now its getting colder and going to check out the new toys r us Grin

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