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120 · 14/09/2010 18:44

here we are. am going to start a bet on who is next to get broody!

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moosemama · 29/09/2010 19:32

Thanks Tree.

Hope all is well with you and yours, we've missed ya this week kiddo. Smile

treedelivery · 29/09/2010 19:46

Ta chuck Smile Will check in tomorrow night to see what GP says.

My Feet haven't touched the ground to be honest. Back to work tomorrow, then paaaarty Friday. Good grief I hope all the kids fit in the room we have hired. All of them seem to be coming!! EEK! DJ said 20, and I reckon hall could do 25. So the 36 actually coming means......

....oh lord.

Haven't really got to grips with thread, except that spiders are everywhere.

HLZ - did you get mri results?

No news from me except that I am fatter. Also more poor. Nervous about party, but only on the size thing.

DD2 has given up sleppng nad eating. She has had 4 teaspoons of wheatabix and some haribo since Sunday night. Bonkers. Has temp too, so am keeping close close eye on her, lest she fit again.

Jeeeeez I just remembered I forgot to hire a number 6 baking tin. Arse. MUST Must MUST do it tomorrow. I must must. Because next thing I know it's Saturday evening and her birthday on Sunday. Shock

chefswife · 29/09/2010 20:21

Tree Just keep smiling. Grin Try some toast for DD in front of the tv with her favorite program... that's what worked for DD when she was ill or is feeling under the weather. And yes, it will be Saturday evening soon enough... Wink Get crackin'. lol

moosemama · 29/09/2010 20:45

Agree with Chef. Toast and jam is all that dd wants at the moment.

I am also fatter - something to do with chocolate being my personal cure for stress. Blush

I'm sure the party will be a huge success. Hope dd has an amazing time. Smile

Hope dd2 is better soon, there seems to be a lot of low-grade coldy stuff around at the moment - my snotty dd being a case in point. Where on earth do they get all that snot from? Honestly, it shouldn't be physically possible. Confused

Have discovered this evening that ds1 has a really sore throat and 'strawberry tongue', so it looks like on top of everything else he is back into the endless round of strep throat and scarlett fever infections he gets every year. At least we are seeing the GP tomorrow, so hopefully can nip it in the bud.

Last time they said it if happened again they wanted to refer to Paed ENT! So that will make Gastro, ENT and Neurology! Shock This is getting ridiculous. Am sure the throat thing is being caused by acid damage from the reflux allowing the infection to take hold, so not sure whether he would still need to see both ENT and Gastro anyway.

Lordy, what is wrong with my family. The dieticians report said he has an exceptionally good diet that needs little change except perhaps some iron supplementation due to being a vegetarian. So why is he always flipping well ill then?

Perhaps I should start feeding him chips and take-aways every night and see if his health improves! Grin

treedelivery · 29/09/2010 22:00

Just had a massive moan and wail to dh. Am sooo fed up that nights start again tomorrow. Yet it isn't remotely unreasonable. Everyone does it, I jsut seem to be making very very heavy weather of it at the moment.

Am also looking at the real fact that I am going to be working weekends for the forseable future. I worked out I will spend 4 hrs a day with dd1, all of them pre and post school run. So actually cooking, sorting, jostling and grumping.
At weekend I'll have about 2 hours in the morning before the sleepy thing overwhelms me. She is going to be pretty much heartbroken.

I'll really miss them all, but we have childcare issues we have to deal with. Not that gp's have even hinted anything, but we need to be more independant. I think. Maybe not. Maybe I should have left well enough alone and enjoyed the Friday feeling with everyone else.
Poor dh.

Oh arse.

Moose, wow at dietician saying he has exceptional diet. You must be really proud of yourself Smile. Can send dd1 for some bootcamp? [grn]

treedelivery · 29/09/2010 22:01

Sorry. Am a right drain on resources at the moment.

moosemama · 29/09/2010 22:33

Tree, you aren't the only one. There was a thread on here somewhere a couple of days ago about how awful it is to work nights. Lots of ladies feeling exactly like you do.

And no you are not a drain on resources, we are all here for each other on this thread - you know that.

As for dietician - she was NHS and not much cop, so come to think of it, maybe I shouldn't set too much store by what she says! Hmm

Anyway, he has had gluten free pizza for tea tonight, despite the fact he had pizza for tea at his cousin's birthday party last Saturday. [Too knackered to cook, but at least I added some extra peppers, cheese and pineapple emoticon]

Also, we've been reducing ds2's movicol and no sooner is he down to one a day then he's flipping constipated again so apparently I'm still not getting it right with him either. Gah!

How can he possibly be constipated fgs, we counted up and he has eaten over 10 portions of fruit and veg every day for the past 5 days, plus had mixed grain muesli AND wholegrain bread AND movicol - if that's not enough fibre and fluid lord only knows what is!

120 · 29/09/2010 22:51

Tree, good luck with party preparations! Sorry you are feeling so low. I think the onset of winter isn't really helping things.

Moose, H is really bad with the poos and always strains (whilst shouting poo at in his very best loudest voice). I find that in addition to bircher muesli, if he has a couple of organix pots of apple/fruit puree or apple juice it really helps. Don't know if you've tried putting apple sauce in his diet, but I know H both loves it and it helps. I use it as 'dip dip' instead of ketchup as he is allergic to tomatoey things.

Finally finished my set of butterflies. Image on facebook. Now need to see if one of the local gallery/cafe's will hang them! Eeek.

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moosemama · 29/09/2010 23:05

Not tried apple sauce 120, but he has stewed apricots and raisins added to his muesli every morning and on the days he has porridge I cook diced apple and pear into it as well, so would that have a similar effect?

He used to drink a lot of apple juice, but I got worried about his teeth, despite always watering it down and now he only drinks water in the day and milk at bedtime plus a soya milkshake as a treat on a Friday. (Oh and a couple of movicol sachets in water as well of course. Hmm)

On a normal day he can eat 6-7 different types of fresh fruit, 2-3 dried fruit, between 7 and 10 types of vegetable and at least 3 full sized mugs of water plus whatever water he actually manages to get down him at school during the day and a big glass of milk at bedtime. I'm sure most children would get the runs on that level of fibre/water, but no, not my ds2!

moosemama · 29/09/2010 23:06

Well done for finishing your butterflies. Can't see them obviously, but am sure they are fantastic as I've loved all your work so far. Bet the local galleries will snatch your hand off to display them for you. Smile

Must go to bed now, big day tomorrow.

Night x

chefswife · 30/09/2010 04:43

Moose Maybe DS isn't getting enough protein. That cured it for DD... that and a little prune juice in the morning. Also consider changing to sea salt... it helps more water go through intestines.

We had a lovely day at the beach and, well, that's it. Ciao for now. Smile

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 30/09/2010 09:15

mm - good luck with drs today

tree - sorry things r stressful party sounds good Grin

120 · 30/09/2010 11:39

Thanks Moose. I would literally try just applesauce, plain and simple. There is something about apples. Prune juice is great and effective, but works (apparently am no scientist!) by irritating the gut, so I try to use them scarcely. Too much fibre can actually work in reverse, so a diet of cheese, white bread and fruit (not bananas) is also really effective. I think if anything our problem is their diets are too healthy and as chef says they need higher fat and protein and less of the veg and grains. All worth trying IMO.

I've uploaded my butterflies to my profile so you can see (I know they are decorative rather than artistic, but I am very proud of them!). I'll give points for working out which butterflies they are!

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treedelivery · 30/09/2010 14:44

Hi all.

Moose, I don't know if our experience is helpfull as your ds has a diet I can only dream of for my dd's but here it is anyway - our paed says our dd1 had too much fibre from too early an age. She did have loads of oats and bannana actually. Apparently the high fibre message is aimed at parents who feed their children wotsits in isolation. He said for the fibre she was getting she would need 1-2 litres of fluid a day.
He also said to not worry about the teeth, as the constpation was worse. To give juice or anything, to get the fluid in. dd2's dietician has said at least 800 mls too. SO maybe he does need a fluid input?

The dietician also advised backing off oats n favour of wheat - much to my fibre obsessed surprise. Reason being wheat is a gut stimulant [hence those effected by intolerance get such awful runs] and as dd1 has slow gut motility it would help. She never ate bread at all, and I have to be honest and say since she has, things are a little better. 2 movicol, lactolose and some senna each day help as well Hmm

t's the pit's isn't it.

SO today has been a more cheerful happy day. I am saved from super bad tiredness as my mum was in contact with mil re:birthday and mentioned how I was on my own today and mssing pre-nights sleep. ML is actually feeling better and they have just taken dd2. I can now go to bed Smile So here I am in bed, I have just had a bowl of soup and fresh rolls. A big treat to have a nice lunch, and I am so looking forward to a sleep. Thank the lord, I was sooooo worried the weekend would be wrecked by me being tired and useless.

Alos managed to get an electrician around to fix the heating, he has to come back but it's underway. Will cost £100, bugger, but still. HEat matters!

Have hired and collected number 6 cake tin, and bought 2 packs of baby blue royal icing. Also some blue icing in a tube with nozzles . Have the picture topper she wanted, so just need to rustle up the cake.

Went along and picked up keys for the party room hall. Ohhhh it's small. Oh well, I keep trying to remind my self that classrooms are small and they do ok.

Just need to go to town main postoffice in morning after work adn collect some last min party supplies I had sent. Gave in to a very polite and sincere request from dd1 for a balloon drop. SHame I was so tight the first time I ordered the stuff, I had to pay a second lot of postage plus extra for nextday delivery Hmm Serves me right I should have just got it first time. £5 for a plastic bag Hmm.
To prove my point about not being tight I also got dd2 a strawberry fairy outfit Grin

I now have some exciting news. No I am not pregnant Grin

We may have found the Bee. Remember the long lost Bee lost in Bruge? Dd1's most beloved. T'was in fact a Dozy Bunny, and is out of production and stock at Jellycat. We lost it in 2007. My mum rang every supplier in the UK Shock I ring some every 4 months or so - just in case.

One guy had just bought a job lot of old stock from a closing down shop sale. ANd there it is. We think. We think there is one. We think it is in the post.
The man knew exactly which one, he said Geri Halliwell had been in and bought 8 for her daughter years ago.

If it's dozy bunny and it arrives I don't know what I'll do. I have actually cred over that Bee you know Blush she as so heartbroken and asks about it every little while. Asks who might have it and what if they don't look after it. Imagine how happy she will be? If it's back again?

If it is we are going to take a box to the post office and ask them to put loads of stamps and marks on, to make it look like it has been travelling lots. On extended holiday.

Dare to dream! I have to be at work all night thinking about Bee and wondering!!

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 30/09/2010 17:02

hi tree

bless the bee hopefully u will have it soon Grin

mm - hope it went ok today @ drs

moosemama · 30/09/2010 17:47

Hi

Tree, chef and 120 thanks for all the dietary advice. You have all given me food for thought (if you'll pardon the pun). The oats vs wheat thing is interesting, we automatically put him straight back onto fruit porridge rather than muesli when he first became constipated, as we thought that would help. He currently drinks 750 ml of water, just on the mugs of water I give him with breakfast, after school and at tea time. (Just got dh to measure it for me.) He also has 2 350 ml bottles of water a day at school, but probably only manages to drink about half, so that would be approx another 300 ml, sometimes more. Hehas his breakfast made with milk, a 250ml carton of milk at break and a mug of milk before bed as well. So, overall he is probably getting at least 1.5 l of fluid (but not all water) per day. Some days he has more, as he will come and ask if he is thirsty.

Its really interesting isn't it. Our generation (apologies to all those much younger than myself on the thread) was taught that wholegrain was best and the more the better, but it would now seem that that's not always the case. I felt awful when I realised ds1 was wheat intolerant, as we had extra wholegrain everything, from bread to pasta to cakes up until then. Now both boys have gluten free pasta and maybe I should be giving ds2 some white bread instead of granary as well.

So onto today:

Ds1 went to the GP - 1 hour's delay to be seen! Angry She listened to what we had to say, said she didn't think his episodes sounded like absence seizures, but she wasn't sure what else they could be either. Then she tested his reflexes etc and said all seemed ok.

Twas quite funny, as she was asking him to do all these weird things to test his reflexes etc and then she said 'jump on the examination bench for me' - so he did. He took his shoes off, climbed up and started jumping up and down! Shock Should've seen her face. I had to remind her that he has ASD and takes things very literally and she had to admit that she did actually tell him to jump on the bench. Grin

Anyway, she says she doesn't think there is cause for alarm, but as ds has had a couple of episodes that he wasn't aware of himself, she will write to his Paed (the one he was referred to for the ASD dx and has now been referred back to for his stomach problems) and ask him to look into it further. She did say that he might say its not his area of expertise and would rather he was seen by a neuro though.

Raced from the GPs' to get ds1 back to school and then to dd's fracture clinic appointment and arrived with only 2 minutes to spare.

She had her cast removed, then went in to see the consultant, who didn't even look at her, just signed the discharge paper as we walked through the door and said "she is using hand - is ok, she doesn't use hand is not ok - she is ok - take this to reception". Shock Angry I was furious, I could have taken her flipping cast off myself at home without the 40 minute race to the hospital and 40 minutes back the other way to pick the boys up on time. What a waste of space that Dr was.

Anyway, all's well that ends well, as she is using her hand and hasn't cried out at all since we got home, so it would seem she is ok.

Bizarrely, my sister found out at her fracture clinic appointment today, that despite being xrayed and placed in a cast by two different hospitals (she damaged the first cast) she hasn't actually broken her ankle after all! Apparently she has sprained it and because its been immobilised in plaster for just over a week, this has affected the healing process and she is going to need physio to correct it. Honestly, A&E doctors, are they all such a waste of space or do we just have bad luck?

I am absolutely shattered after all that. Fortunately dh is home and in the process of cooking everyone fajitas.

Tree, am glad you managed to get some space and sleep before tonight. Hope you wake refreshed and ready for anything, but wish you a lovely easy shift anyway. Grin

teaandcakeplease · 30/09/2010 18:54
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120 · 30/09/2010 20:00

Tree - fantastic news about Bee - well done for finding one! She is going to be sooo happy!

Moose, honestly your hospital exploits are extraordinary! I did laugh at him jumping on the bed! We did that when we were little and our German grandmother asked us in English to sit on the table. We deliberately took her literally though, which made her quite cross!

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120 · 30/09/2010 22:09

Thanks books! Soooo quiet on here. Have been keeping myself amused with this thread. Amazing.

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Lenni · 01/10/2010 09:19

Hello. Still havent caught up, too much. Am trying and feel rude for not managing.

Tree - your post about Bee made me cry.

Will read more...

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 01/10/2010 09:55

mm - glad u got sorted @ drs Grin

what awful weather here 2 start oct

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Lenni · 01/10/2010 12:29

I'm okay Books, still job hunting. Not getting v far. It's depressing, wish I had never given up my job. But I have to remind myself how lucky I an to have had this time with the DCs. It's hard though.

Show went well, except for a blazing row with DH. Really gave me an insight into his world and he is so irresponsible, I was surprised. He is the one who wanted kids yet he was acting like a childless teenager with work friends. I was so overwhelmed with it I just exploded at him one evening. I feel really betrayed, which is stupid but I feel like I've given up so much for the kids he wanted and then he gets to carry on acting like he wants, doesn't take on any of the worry or responsibility and keeps his career and lifestyle. I'm a bit fed up with it now. Argh. Sorry, bet you wish you didn't ask!!

Best go, at tesco, will have used my two hours car parking MNing at this rate :-D

moosemama · 01/10/2010 12:58

Hi Tink, Books and Lenni

Lenni, sorry about the row. I think its true to some degree in most relationships, men just don't 'get' realistically how much is involved in raising children. Even if they do it for the odd day here and there, they never really manage to get the full picture - and then you have the old 'I'm letting you have a break or letting you have a lie in attitude' which really does my head in, as not only are they their children too, but at least they can leave their work at work and get to be adults and not have to think about what another human being wants/needs for a whole working day, every day. We on the other hand are responsible for our children 24/7, our job doesn't have a start or finish time and because we are mothers we can never switch off and leave it behind, even if we do get a break or 'another' job on top. That book 'What Women Do' was a wake-up call for me. I'd never thought of it like that before and realised I was so hard on myself.

Life here continues to be a comedy of errors:

Ds2 insisted he felt poorly and shaky when he got up this morning. I thought he was trying for a day off school and made him eat a quarter of a piece of toast and drink some water. Then he told me he really did want to go to school, because its the harvest festival and they are doing something fun this afternoon, both things I knew he was looking forward to. Decided he must be telling the truth and sent him back to bed, where he promptly threw up all over his bed, the floor etc etc.

Half an hour later he did it again, all over the clean bedding. Aaargh!

He went to sleep, so I set the monitor up in his room and decided to wash the dog as I really couldn't stand the smell anymore, its not her fault, but I'm really not sure how much longer I can cope with living with it. Anyway, first I managed to drop the shower head and give myself a top to toe shower. Hmm Then just after I got the shampoo on her ds2 started yelling for me. By the time I'd rinsed the dog, stuck a towel on my head, got the dog out the bath and run up the stairs he was hysterical and screaming. You guessed it, he'd been sick again.

Cleaned that up, came downstairs and realised the whole bathroom and kitchen was covered in water as I'd had to abandon the dog before drying her. Cleaned that up, turned around and found dd had filled her nappy and her whole face was covered in yucky green snot - lovely.

Sorted out that little lot and decided I had had enough, was coming on Mumnset and not doing anything else of any significance for the rest of the day!

Have texted Mum to ask if she can babysit while I fetch ds1 this afternoon, but she is back at A&E with my sister getting yet more xrays done as the consultant who saw Mum privately for her knee replacement has agreed to review them and see her on Monday. (He will be the eighth Dr to assess her injury!) Its peeing it down and blowing a gale and its looking like I am going to have to drag two poorly children up to the school with me this afternoon.

Oh - and I have a cold with a really sore throat and horrible headache .

Anyway rant over, I will trudge on as usual.

Tree hope the party is a huge success - I have no doubt it will be. Also, forgot to say, but what fantastic news about Bee. Even better if you can get him/her in time for her birthday.