FESH spa and creche: Is anyone thinking of the children yet?

[SkiHorseWonAWean]

New Fred. Apologies for dullness of title - we need curly for witticisms.

Hello VAG and welcome back! Can't help you on the BFing issue - got issues of my own here atm!

Which leads me to my reason for logging on: BFing gals DS has learnt to help himself during the night, which is handy for my sleep deprivation. But it means while I haven't been keeping a close enough eye on what he has been up to he has re-programmed my boobies! The right nork is absolutely mahoosive, and the left one is a bit little and floppy. Seems the right one is easiest to reach while I am asleep! So, right one feels like I could do with a helping hand from DS to shrink to more comfortable proportions, but really I should leave it alone so that it gets the message to lay off the overproduction by itself, and get the left one up and running a bit more. Just to throw a bit of a curve ball in there too, it would appear DS prefers the right booby. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can re-establish booby equilibrium?

Other annoying moment of the day - I went to the chemist, as we are all full of cold atm. I wanted sore throat stuff, DD wanted cough mixture and OH wanted just whatever cold drucks I could get. Pharmacist told me I could only have honey and lemon pastilles as I am BFing, and DD is too young for chesty cough mixture. She recommended Calpol instead. I asked why Calpol? She replied 'in case she has a fever.' FFS she has a cough, not a fever, which is why I want cough mixture! OH has got his drucks though, so had better not moan about his cold any more - the rest of us are suffering drug-free!

And Ski I almost daren't even say this, but I'm with Rots on the old weaning front. I said it before - but if they can't get it to their mouth themselves, they are not ready. And 7 weeks is really too early!

Actually thinking about it, it's left booby he prefers.

Surely milk tastes the same from both sides, unless there's an infection (thrush/mastitis) - you don;t mention any pain so am assuming this isn't the case. Is it possible it's the positioning he prefers Box ? Try feeding on the right rugby-ball-style so his leggies go down your side rather than across your front IYSWIM.
The recent growth spurt has prob confused your production too but, as you know from last time, it's early days & things will settle down.

Annoying about the cough mixture.....not the pharmacists fault that all kiddy cough remedies were taken off the market a few years ago. Have got a bottle of honey & lemon linctus which might help - will drop it round on way back from stables if you like.

Poor RottyDog, & double-ouch for that vet bill ....fingers crossed that sorts him out.

Not rushing to wean rots. Although it has been proven to help both reflux and prem babies and I have read plenty about how to know when your baby is ready (I don't go into anything with my eyes shut), and she isn't quite yet. The apple thing was just testing reactions. And the tongue poking was reaching out to lick something that made her very happy. A minute intake of apple juice if anything - even if she did put a slice in her own mouth then drop it. As you say, each to their own and I was just sharing a cute experience.

Glad you are able to help the dog .

Went to our first NCT sale today. Bloody manic.

Again, I can't help with BF stuff. I am a slave to Aptamil.

ski just a quickie - are you getting any goggles or eye protection for the nipper when you go on hol? Can you even purchase such a thing?

I'm not weaning - not sure where anyone got that impression from? Unless a dab of quark on a finger now equates to sitting him down for a chateaubriand & jacket potato?

cunty I hadn't even thought about it tbh and being as he'll be in the chalet with a nanny all day... but yes, you can get baby sunnies - from the website I mentioned last week - but we'll probably just get some from decathlon.

Babybanz

vet has given us steriods for wellie, they should hopefully perk him up for a month or so and make him comfortable till its time to go. we decided against chemo as we'd have to drive a 40 mile round trip and he hates the car at the best of times. we have to give the steriods a week so we are desperately hoping they work, otherwise we'll be saying goodbye a lot earlier than we hoped

Brilliant, thanks box. Just what I was after. ski my mum is coming with us to take care of him so they'll be out and about sampling the mountain air. Will have to purchase a more comfortable sling, and some very grippy shoes for her. Don't want her going a over t

box as you say, hardly dare say it...

Feeling snapped back at, assume that is because my post was taken as a criticism. Which it wasn't meant to be.

1. I think it's perfectly reasonable to discuss something so important.
2. As I pointed out, I was asking what your reasons were, not telling you what to do.

cas therefore, I would be really interested in how early weaning helps preemies as I've never come across it before so am ignorant of that. I understand the reflux thing (being the risk of early weaning being lower than the risk of continued intake of Gaviscon, in a nutshell) but I early weaned LC (introducing mush at 4 months) without firstly trying to reduce Gaviscon which with hindsight was a stupid mistake and I now wonder how his eczema would have been if I'd waited before introducing ANYTHING. Anything can interfere with the gut flora or pass across the intestinal barrier until it closes properly so it doesn't have to be a whole cow that's offered. I'm not suggesting you, or anyone, is going into it with eyes closed. I'm saying WHY because I'm interested, not because I'm saying you're wrong. It was a cute story :)

I'm also feeling absolutely fucking crapeola at the moment. So forgive me if I'm sounding stroppy - it's nothing personal to anyone, and I will be fine. Just having to get through the next couple of weeks and just wanting to crawl into a corner and wish it all away, so I am not necessarily coming across as I'm intending. Please bear with me. xx

cosmo just wanted to say, so sorry about your cat. :( :( I really do feel for you, going backwards and forwards with my dog and not knowing what's going to happen. At least mine has a chance. Enjoy him. xxx

Sorry you are having a tough time rots but just as you felt the bite-back yesterday/today, I did feel attacked by your comment. I can't speak for ski, who has made her position clear, but I had not expressed intent to start weaning. In fact, we had both outlined our positions last time this topic was raised (see October 12), when I pointed out that there is a really helpful leaflet on the Bliss charity website. I can't link to it because you have to enter details before downloading, but if you type weaning into the search box you will get it.

We tried reducing Gaviscon last week, and I was drowned in puke. Not fun.

I've just typed about four different endings to this post, then imagined either the flaming I'll get, or the disappointment I'll feel in myself for biting my lip. So I'm just going to dish out a and get on with my Sunday. Hope things sort themself out for you soon.

C'mon guys! Shove up and be nice - me and Silver are squabbling over who's in next!

It's lovely (if not slightly terrifying) to read about what you're all doing with your baybees. Is there a remedial desk at the back where we can work out which end is which?

It must be a bit of an emotive topic to put it mildly - feeding your child that is, and the right way but I don't think anyone was out of order from what I can understand. It's good that you can discuss these things in an open forum and it is good when like me you genuinely don't have a clue! :)

cossie I'm so sorry about your cat. I hadn't read properly about what's happened until now. rots hope doglet gets well soon. Vet bills are a nightmare I agree. But at least it is sortable and hopefully he will be a bit happier soon.

Cos sorry about your cat. I'm not a cat-person, but I have sympathy with other people's pet troubles.

Arguing ladies there is not very MUCH arguing going on, really now, is there? More mild disagreement with other people's ideas. If you want real arguing, wait till you are sitting bolt upright in bed one night with you and your OH telling each other how IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! before refusing to speak to each other for a week. That's arguing. So chill, everyone. It's just a reminder that it's one more thing for mothers to tut about - it starts with opinions on wine in risottos, swerves past epidurals, ducks round formula feeding, and will not stop - ever! In 10 years time some woman will disagree with you about what time you let your child play out till. Etc, etc, etc.

But remember - don't be too impatient to get where you are going (I couldn't resist that - sorry!)

Horsey gals talk some sense into me. Which is the right answer to the question 'what do I do about the fact that I want a new horse - NOW!?' Is the answer;
a. Don't be so silly, you can't get out of a walk yet, have a 5 and a half week old baby who isn't established in any kind of routine other than scream between 5 and 9pm, the price of hay is ludicrous, and winter is just about to kick in. Wait till after Christmas.
OR
b. Ooh, what are you going to buy? Have you seen the one on Horsequest?.......

I think a. is the right answer. But I keep looking at horse for sale websites. Fortunately nothing has caught my eye yet. But the poor racehorse is nice and fast and very very harmless, but is doing nothing at all for me. I loved big horse from the first minute I saw him, and have loved other horses before. But the racehorse is just 'perfectly functional' iyswim, rather than floating my boat.

Well today what I am mostly doing is giving my son a stomach upset. I have been ill yesterday and today, and how he is doing many many liquid poos (copying mummy!) thankfully he doesn't actually seem to feel poorly.

Hope doggie is doing ok rots, and that you are feeling better soon.

box Artie also prefers the left boob, he will take from the right if in a good mood, but not if not! I think it's a combination of slower letdown and positioning - the rugby ball certainly works better on the right, so maybe try that?

boxer Well we had a terrific barney last week when he called me a "bad mother" and then walked out on us twice within 24 hours. Fucking awesome. He's still in the dog house. He threw his usual tantrum though with the "oh I don't want any bindings for my snowboard, I don't need them" - then 24 hours later "shall we go and get my bindings?". Twat. As for the horsey question - I'd question that you need two "adult" horses being as your menagerie will be growing by a Welsh A in about 2 year's time...

I do agree with you boxer in that having entered the hallowed halls of motherhood I am always going to be wrong in someone's eyes.

As I've said before, each and every one of us is doing (going to do) something which makes others of us roll our eyes, growl or utter the words "sanctimonious wanker". It's the lie of the land.

As for the food. Am just back from health visitor and they suggest starting NOW with pureed fruit.

Hmmm ..... I think it might be a Dartmoor in preference to a Welsh A, Ski. So what are you saying? That I will need a grown up's horse to accompany each child and therefore I ought to keep the racehorse and get something else too? All of these horses and ponies are going to have to be unshod to keep the costs down! But I have plenty of space and 4 stables, and OH always said he envisaged all of them being full one day. He did say it with is with a kind of resignation in his voice though

Cos will try the rugby position. It worked well with DD and I had to use it because of CS wound preventing normal position. Is going to be tricking shoving something the size of DS under my armpit though! He is fooking massive! But better to have a bouncing big boy and a little dainty pixie girl than the other way round, eh?

Ski what exactly was JB going to use to stay on his board with then if he didn't want bindings? Obviously that is the root of all your differences though - you're a skier, he's a boarder. Two different worlds! DD filled both OH and I with joy last night when we asked her what she wanted to watch on the TV and she replied 'skiing.' How fab is that? Of to check out tiny skis now.

He, me and ski get on ok and I'm a boarder - don't we ski you fucking bint

Rastus has just delivered his 'big poo'. He used to do one of these per day, and really, we could never put him in any good clothes until it had happened (until, that is, I realised that we were using nappies that were too small - he's now in size 4s the fat blooter). Well until about 10 minutes ago, he had been 4 days without a poo. Yes, 4 days. I put it down to him 'taking more out' with his growth/development spurt and thus producing less waste. But by all the gods he has just made up for it Stinkius Maximus!

I'm annoyed with Hom most days, most hours of most days in fact. In truth, he doesn't do much right and often I just want to beat his face to a bloody pulp and piss into the remains. However I won't, because he hasn't yet made a will.

Eloquent as ever Cunty. Sums up perfectly how I felt about TG in the months after having Boo. Don't worry, it does pass. Takes fucking years mind.

Why am I allowed no sleep?? When will this 4 month regression shiz end?? Rastus wakes up every 1.5-2hrs from midnight and it's causing me to hallucinate And he's got his jabs today, and I'm already dreading it and getting stressed. God WHY did I do this? Why are some of you doing it TWICE??!

oh dear cunty sounds tough. Here have a chinese burn.

Additionally, my son's trumps are so smelly I'm beginning to think I may accidentally have weaned him

Be proud CU, be proud!

Oh I will be once my eyes stop watering

Just wait until you do start food and you will be longing for those milk only watery poos! The smell of foody poos has made me want to gag on many on occasion especially during this pregnancy.