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SkiHorseWonAWean · 06/09/2010 11:39

New Fred. Apologies for dullness of title - we need curly for witticisms.

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VoilaAnotherGimlet · 26/10/2010 23:38

Well my 3 week old trumps continually and smells worse than TSF despite being only bf..... I was terrified of going to an NCT meet-up and him grossing out a roomful of babies. But one of my NCT group came round to visit last week and said her boy is the same. So as long as they are at the meet-up we can blame one another.

B'feeding: thanks for offer of lc, Cnuty and Okes, yes please to the contact info! Left boob still sore, and about x3 the size of right one. I have to concentrate so as not to walk in circles....

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 26/10/2010 23:39

Darn Clint awake....

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 05:57

VAG's birth story (as far as she can recall), Part One:

Arrived at hospital for induction around 11.30am. Was taken straight to a ward with two other ladies on, and one almost immediately got transferred to the labour unit. My cheery mw (who called me "hon" every other word but was otherwise very nice) gave me a VE (Bishops score of 3), an hour of belt monitoring, and the first round of gel. She told me to stay upright as much as possible, but we were gutted to learn that I now wasn't allowed off the premises, so the planned lunch at Carluccio's opposite was now our of the question.

I should mention at this point that I even find smear tests painful - the VEs were definitely the worst part.

TSF and I spent the next 4 hours walking around and around the hospital atrium, looking out of the window at the construction site and diggers, and eventually we bought a pack of cards and settled to several games of rummy. This was particularly good as a distraction when I had my second hour of belt monitoring. I was just starting to feel period-like cramps. The mw examined me again - this time it was painful rather than just uncomfortable, apparently a side-effect of the gel, and was pleased with my progress and said she wouldn't give me another dose of gel as I was coming along anyway. She also did some sort of sweep I think - the whole VE was agonizing and I could feel the cramps intensifying.

After this point, the pains started to ratchet up fast. I bounced on my ball and tried to keep on my feet, rotating my hips and using my yoga teacher's "magic ah" to breathe. At 8pm the mw shift changed and Nelly took over. I had to get back on the bed for another hour of monitoring and can recall being quite loudly unhappy about this. I also threw up after attempting to eat a snack and drink some lucozade - so much for keeping my energy up.

My parents had arrived sometime around 6 - Mum stayed around but Dad unfortunately came round the curtain just as a contraction hit, took one look at me I'm pain and fled in misery to the waiting area (he is not good with hospitals and didn't attend the births of his own kids so being in the building was testament to his not wanting to be far from me at this time!) Although the afternoon hadn't dragged for us we were aware progress was going to be slow, and so sent mum off to take dad for some dinner at some point in the evening.

Nelly needed to assess my progress with another VE. At this point I got a bit fighty. I was in pain, the tens machine was on and I was. breathing but the thought of another painful rummage while I was so sore tipped me over the edge. Eventually I let her, but was starting to become noisy. (Felt v sorry for the other lady on the ward, she was also induced but coping well and having to listen to me loudly "aahing" and throwing up. I saw her after on a recovery ward and apologised). It turned out I was 4cm, so TSF and Nelly walked me down the corridor to the labour unit.

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 05:58

Clint asleep! - part 2 at next feed!

AlpinePony · 27/10/2010 06:23

VAG, I'm "glad" you too found the VE horrifying. I am absolutely not a wimp and don't have any problems with a smear - but I had to go back at my 6 week check and ask if I'd had a sweep because the VE was so violently painful (I was almost screaming and it was as painful as what went wrong at a later stage) I thought it must've been "more" than simply that! :( lol@ your dad! Grin

AlpinePony · 27/10/2010 06:40

Please to have late entry to "ginger baybee" competition? Bear's thick shock of black hair is falling out to be replaced by ginger golden. Grin That's ma boy!

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 06:55

Awake again! Pony, glad it isn't just me then on VE front. But I am a wimp....

Also, Clint is "strawberry blond" in some lights.

Ooh, does anyone here know Steve who works with TSF? Is just that this Steve has started calling TSF's baby "Clint" and that seems far too great a coincidence to me....

Curls thanks for earlier wise swaddling words, we have had a few good nights of sleep in a row now from taking your advice. 11.45 to 5am last night!

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 07:16

VAG's birth story, Part Two (with an attempt at greater brevity):

Al texted parents to tell them I was being transferred. I don't remember much about the next while, apart from being still upright, and fighting to get back to my breathing "bubble". I asked for the lights to be turned down - they were, but there seemed to be people coming in and out all the time. We were asked whether we minded a med student being present. We said no for the time being. His name was Daniel and he turned out to be rather nice, going off to find comfier chairs for TSF and Mum, and generally being thoughtful and unobtrusive. Mum took quite a shine to him.

I realised early on that I had lost my breathing and was no longer coping. Nelly mentioned an epidural, quietly and without pushing, and I thought about how far I still had to go, and decided to go for it. I had thought there would be delay in setting it up, but almost straight away a team of men in "The Todd" style headscarves flooded the room, the lights came back on, and I was being warned about the risks of paralysis if I moved at the wrong moment.

Clint asleep again! Am such a slow one finger typist on this virtual keyboard, apols. Back later......

SilverSky · 27/10/2010 07:46

Yo FESHs!

Seems I lost this fred, Luckily for youse lot I found you again.

VAG the VE I had earlier this week was pure evil. I also find smears horrid. This is surely a clear sign of having a v low pain threshold. Balls. Think my Bishop Score was v v low at a 2.

So it's off to hossie today for appt (they wanna talk induction) and I am to ask for another VE with view to having a s&s as one couldn't be done on Monday as Aladdins Cave is in lock down mode, it's more secure than Alcatraz. MWs words were along lines of you are nowhere near ready to have this baybee if your cervix is anything to go by.

So since then I have been a miserable madam. HI have not been getting on. Obv the reason we are not getting in is cos he is a div and saying the wrong thing at the wrong time and not really understanding my frustrations.

Feeling better today about things. So I reckon telling the scary Dr that we don't want an induction unless absolutely necessary is not going to be easy. Reckon it would be easier to take cake off a hormonal preggo.

tues your comment about "he's not made a will" cracked me up. You are funny! More comedy required pls!

SilverSky · 27/10/2010 07:53

Boxy keep window shopping for new neddy - let's face it its a fabulous hobby and relatively inexpensive except for the cost of t'internet!

Any more news on how big hoss is getting on?

Tis early days but fink we've caught the MF head on.

Need to invest in another rainsheet. I have yet to find one that does not leak. Current one is Weatherbeeta and when removed yday the wet was coming through. Not bad for nearly 9 hrs out in the rain tho!!

OkieCokie · 27/10/2010 10:08

Good luck at hossie today silv. Stand firm for the ESH!

CUNextTuesday · 27/10/2010 10:36

Bravo so far VAG you're doing brilliantly hun Grin

Another rancid night's sleep. What is WRONG with this child?! He had a full bottle at midnight after 3.5 hours sleep, wouldn't settle and had BOTH boobs before settling down to sleep for 45 MINUTES, then was wide awake for an hour before I chugged a whole bottle of Calpol* into him then he managed about 2 hours till 6. Then on and off the boob in our bed till we got up at 9.45. Feel a bit bad cos I was quite rough with him as I was up and down off the sofa trying to soothe him without grub and I remember thinkoing I can almost understand people who get soooo frustrated that they give their kid a good shake Sad. I didn't but I did snatch him up off the sofa quite roughly. He just grinned at me cos he likes rough games...

*not really

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 12:46

Feeding again....

VAG's birth story, Part Three:

Epidural administered, and I was given a boost button to press every 15 mins to take dose up to full level. It started working very quickly, and was sheer bliss!

The rest of my labour was a bit surreal. I lay on the bed, pressing the boost button, laughing and joking (i do remember periodically exclaiming "drugs are good!" to the room. Mum leaded through Marie Clare, TSF popped out to take a break and chat to Dad, who was still in the waiting room, doing sudoku and trying to doze, the mws were in and out (another mw had joined Nelly, an older, wiry, no nonsense, Irish lady), Nelly used the time to write up her notes, and I dozed on and off. Eventually we persuaded Mum to take Dad home to ours for some proper sleep as nothing was happening, and they left at 2am. At some point Nelly checked the epidural with a cold spray, and it transpired that I had been merrily pressing the button until I was utterly numb from the ribs down......oops! A bit later again, it made me throw up a bit. No more button until I started getting some pain back later.

As dawn crept round, I was told I was fully dilated. Nelly said she would leave it an hour then we'd start. It was a really chilled, calm, unhurried atmosphere.

Pushing was surreal. I was so numb, and as am not a small girl, the mws couldn't lift my legs! Eventually they got them in stirrups and I had to hold them up myself! Nelly told me when to push. It was as if I was pretending to push, making the face and noise, a bit like acting. But they kept saying well done to me. There was a poo moment,but I wasn't aware at the time. I was given an epesiotomy. All of a sudden Nelly said "the head is out". Then on the next couple of pushes I felt the body slither out, my stomach deflate, and the backache stop. Then a red, wet, huge, heavy baby was dumped on my chest. I burst into hysterical, terrified tears, remembered to grab it and took a look at my baby. We said hello, baby was towelled off while with me, and I took a sneaky look between the baby's legs and found out I had a son. Did a little bit of breastfeed, and we were left together while the mws tidied up and left us.

I tore in two places so had to have stitches. The mw suggested TSF had skin to skin with the baby while they sorted me, which was lovely. I had lost a lot of blood - 2.5l - and much later I had a transfusion.

I know this level of intervention is not ideal, but my experience of the epidural was a positive one. It was an active choice on my part, and meant I had plenty of energy to push. It was also relaxing as it felt controlled and safe. I probably would have torn anyway due to the size of Clint so don't feel I suffered more side effects. And I came out of the experience on a psychological high. So much that it took a few days to realise the effect of such blood loss (which may well have happened anyway).

Apols for the length! Cream cakes for everyone who got through it all!

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 12:50

Good luck today Silver, hope you get your way!

Cunty - you mean this pattern returns?

CUNextTuesday · 27/10/2010 13:08

Have no fear vag I think this is unique to Rastus Grin

What a cracking story, v eventful! Remind me what size he was?

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 13:13

Cunty Clint was a beefy 8lb14oz. Have I had the biggest BESHbaby so far? Think I might have done...

rollerbaby · 27/10/2010 13:26

VAG brilliant brilliant brilliant. So good to hear from you and that you had a really positive experience. How have you found the healing from the epi/stitches? I'm bizarrely scared of this bit most!

I'm thinking MooBaby may be a similar size and I have to say I am coming round to the idea of a magic button nice and early on! Everyone says the stitching is the worst...

Anyway hope life is settling down for you and you are getting sleep and loving being a mum! x

AlpinePony · 27/10/2010 13:39

VAG Well done - it all sounds amazing and what a positive experience. Did your parents set off from home when you went in to hospital then?

cunty Jailbait and I have discussed how we understand how people reach the end of their tether... :(

AlpinePony · 27/10/2010 13:47

I think we've finally got tummy-time cracked. We've not forced it as he's clearly found it deeply unpleasant, however I did it with him yesterday for a couple of minutes and he held his head right up. Just done it again now and he's flung himself over on to his back! Grin Very pleased and also very pleased that we chose not to force him to do it even though HV/books said we "must". Unlike Rastus who wanted to do it from Day 1 I think.

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 13:50

Honey the stitches were fine at the time due to my extreme numbness! Now, 3 weeks later, and they are fine, I can't feel them. I have been having a shallow bath twice a day, tea tree oil in the morning and lavender and salt in the evening (mixed techniques as people kept recommending different things!) I was horrified at the thought of tearing/stitches etc but at the time it really felt such a minor thing in comparison to the baby by my side. I am still feeling the effects of the blood loss, and am woozy if I forget an iron tablet - easy to do when baby needs attention... My lower back was sore for about 10 days though this wasn't the epi, it was the weight of baby and pushing. It eased once I could go for walks and stretch out. Are you going to C&W?

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 27/10/2010 14:08

Pony they waited till Dad finished work at 4pm. The nutters drove to the hospital, but instead of having dinner at one of the many eateries on the Fulham Rd, they drove back to my house as they fancied pizza and knew a restaurant there. When they returned they left the car st ours and took the bus. Therefore when they left at 2am they had to get a cab to my house....where they didn't like to use the spare room bed so curled up on the sofa under a blanket. And when they woke up they found the smallest towel and shared it to avoid leaving any laundry. Adorable fools....I would have been equally happy for them to take the laundry home with them....

CUNextTuesday · 27/10/2010 14:21

vag going to put the numbers of the BF counsellors on a message on FB for you

CUNextTuesday · 27/10/2010 14:28

Alps yeah Rastus doesn't go on his back if he can make a song and dance and get transferred onto his front. He's always slept on his front, although at the moment he's 'sleeping' on his front

OkieCokie · 27/10/2010 15:03

Vag amazing story and you did so well! I now understand the need for the iron tablets, that is a significant blood loss. Was it from internal (womblar) or external (tear)? I remember not feeling any grief from stitches either (having them done or after) although I had antibiotics quite early on as an infection was spotted on about day 4 and was also on painkillers. I too took many a tea tree bath and that really did help the healing - I had 2 a day! Clint was hardly small either!

rollerbaby · 27/10/2010 16:07

Vag your parents sound so lovely - bless them. No we're going to St George's now... This was because of the original homebirth plan but now we've abandoned that, it's actually a bit easier. Same distance as C&W but no issues with bridges... you know what it's like in traffic. There's no other way over short of swimming!

How long were you in for in the end? Sounds like they really looked after you and Clint.

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