FESH spa and creche: Is anyone thinking of the children yet?

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New Fred. Apologies for dullness of title - we need curly for witticisms.

PMSL @ chuff!

Lovin' the Kiki q's. Fabulous entertainment.

I'd just like to impress you all with the fact I KNOW the difference between piebald and skewbald!!! I couldn't get on a horse these days if my life depended on it, but I do remember that.

honey is fast tracked to the top of the class!

Notice she hasn't aksherly SAID what the difference is, just that she claims to know.

I knows, I knows! One is brown and one is black! Simples.

Well I could have fooking told you that! Nobody knows the real difference! Troofax!

Harrumph. Well wot iz it then mrs c cloggs?

I'm right! I just looked it up on wikipedia. So stick that up yer foofy.

BRRRR!!!
Surely piebald = white plus black and skewbald = white plus any other colour.
(Most commonly brown but technically a blue and white horse is actually a skewbald.) (So I'm told.)

Sad and sorry fact that it took a horse colour debate to get me to speak up on thread. I'm having a bit of a downer: constant feeling that I should be coping with two children better than I am. Bleurgh!

Oh it's got busier in here!

I also heart Mary King. Was also a Ginny fan and named my budgie after her horse Dubonnet (it was either than or Priceless which seemed silly - Dubonnet was obviously normal). I was ten at the time and my mother never asked me why I'd chosen the name of a liquor. I later got a second budgie, and having found out what Dubonnet was, called her "Soda".

Well I have something terrifically embarassing to admit. .

I bought a bottle of wine today and forgot to drink any of it.

I am seriously losing the plot.

silvie hope you sort hossie out. at NCT teacher. Our class started with the girls all being very discrete about it after the babies were born (in the postnatal part obv) and several weeks later we all literally just whack 'em out. In fact, I have to remember where I am when I feed Comma - as I've got into a habit not only of just whopping, but then forgetting to put them back in afterwards .

My nips hurt like absolute blue buggery to the point of actually shouting at him tonight. I'm guessing there's a growth spurt going on as he's feeding like a nutter - which is fine, if time consuming - but he's doing a horrible thing of pulling off the nip by shaking his head from side to side very violently while firmly clamped down. I need to sort it out as honestly, it's just h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e. I remember LC doing it once or twice but he's done it several times both today and yesterday and it hurts :( Just as we were nicely settled in to it as well. :(

Oh and 2/5 and 3/5 engaged. Babe can pop up and down a bit (although less likely in a first pregnancy) but the estimate of engagement is somewhat subjective and therefore one MW may say 2/5 and another 3/5 from the same palpitation. So ignore it. Main things are - head down, bottom up. It could be 2/5, 3/5 or 1/5 but when it's actually en route you'll know about it .

FP I would call a blue and white white with blue skewbald-type markings . But I think you're probably right.

Sorry you're on a downer sweetie :( I have no idea what to say to cheer you up but I'm glad you're reading, if not posting.

Points go to fanny. Not that I knew, but makes sense when looking at magpies and pied wagtails, etc. Still not convinced moopoo actually knew

mn have given me my "final warning" for suggesting kiki is daft. [snigger] Tbf - I think my point about of all the daft questions she's asked, the one she forgot to ask was "is it a good idea for me to be 2000 miles from home in the latter stages of pregnancy" was quite a fair point. I have suggested to mn that there's a little hypocrisy at play allowing the comments such as "pony faced twat" to stay, "constipated" etc. etc. (shall ignore "really mean" - it brings to mind a Lindsey Lohan film) - and yet I get the "final warning". Which is playing "the final countdown" on my internal jukebox. I have no idea where the girl came from who reported me - but having read her profile page ... But oh my goodness... if you can't tell someone to "get a grip" what on earth are they doing ramming this "no nonsense" ethos down your throats?

My parents are leaving town this morning and I feel very confused about it. They've left me stressed and caused me additional "work". Whilst claiming to want to stay out of my hair - it's mean the minute I've stepped through the door she can't grab her handbag and leg it fast enough - leaving me with a confused baybee + dirty cups left in the living room which I know is not the end of the world - but I find it disrespectful. I'm thinking of not having them again. You know, like, Evah. Something else happened, or rather didn't happen - and if I were to tell you - you'd all beat seven shades of shit out of me and call me a bastard - but I found it hurtful nonetheless.

hooves what a day you have had. So Is MN a moderated forum or not? It seems very liberal and unmoderated to me and allsorts is posted for the majority of the time and, I didn't see your reply, yet you've been censored and now threatened with the boot. Where is the consistency?

Regarding parents. Don't even get me started! My dad called saying that they would be visiting at the end of the month if the baby arrived. So I consider myself told. However, unless my mother gets in touch before then she can bog off. Not having someone in my house who speaks to me like that and accuses me of allsorts when it's not even true. Too right about you can pick your friends but not your family. My family is very complicated and I do better when they have the hump with me and send me to Coventry cos having a "relationship", and I use the term very lightly, is so very stressful that I wonder if it's worth it. At one time I would have been the first in the queue to have a perfect relationship with them but too much has gone on for too long and my mother wants to be my best friend and not my mother. For me that really does not work.

My family is also complicated as my brother is also my 3rd cousin.

It makes family events easy as everyone knows each other. Also helps with coffins.

alps OBVIOUSLY I want to know what didn't happen.

rots artie does that nip pulling when he's overtired, ow ow ow.

FP sorry to hear you're on a downer, woul a hug bitchslap help?

FESHies, I have purchased a video babby monitor and I pronounce it to be good. We are trying to train Rastus to have an afternoon nap in his cot, rather than lolling all over me, and we are currently watching him desperately trying to stay awake

FP you clearly ARE coping if you have time to join in the colour of horses chat. I think I clearly demonstrated my latent equestrian prowess but some people are so cynical .

Alpro what??? Final warning? WTF does this mean?? they take your baybee away from you? What a load of tosh. That is SOOOOOOOO mean!!

Cunty thought of little Rastus trying to stay awake is very sweet. Which one did you buy? We got a Tomy one but haven't got it out of the box yet.

Silver and Alpine I think parents bring out the worst sometimes. They mean well, but somehow manage to fuck you off all the more. Here have a large cinzano and a spliff each.

Got a Summer one moo. The pic is surprisingly clear and even impressed the hardest man in the world to please, aka Hom

fanny As the others have said, you are doing great. :) Maybe you need a lunch date with cossie again? Drag rots along too? You can compare painful nips together.

cunty We too have a baybee which will try and keep himself awake using a variety of measures including, but not limited to, violent head-shaking, fist-beating, leg-waving. Last night I was feeling very zen so just took him in to the bedroom, laid him down next to me and he screamed in my face for 90 minutes. I thought if we were both naked it would help, but all to no avail. In the end I pushed him around the park and he was asleep before we were even out of the building. Did you manage to get him off yesterday afternoon? Bear is currently in his cot - his mobile has been wound up 5+ times - he needs to sleep - so I'm going to try and ignore his chirrups/screams/etc. He gets so angry now he grabs the metal arms of his buggy, shakes them and turns purple. I imagine in a few years it's going to be "I am not going to sleep mummy and you can't make me" - before ripping a yellow pages in half! He's wearing dinosaur dungarees - he is a Screamasaurus.

honey I did wonder last night whether I should go out and buy a spliff. :( Gah. Motherhood? Brings out the alkie/smackhead in all of us.

As for my "final warning" - I am just perplexed about it all - unless perhaps they wish to change their demographic and whinging ninnies who fret about eating microwave meals is what they're after!

'lo all. Been a pretty shitty week here, so not been too chatty. And now my girl has a rotten cold, symptoms of which include night waking after sleeping through for 5-6 weeks. Bah.
Just checking in really.

fp you're doing a grand job. I'm always in awe of those of you with two. I honestly don't think I could do it. I hardly get a chance to take my focus off my one child, and I revolve around her clock, so the thought of getting an older child sorted at the right times etc is an impossibility. But I'll give it a try to come and help you when you've moved though

video monitors are great. We have a Motorola one which I love so far. I have been known to walk round with the monitor handset in one pocket and the lullaby light show remote in the other.

I have been putting Squeaks down after her 2/3pm feed. Yesterday she went in the pram and slept under the trees while I picked fruit, in the garden for a bit and then in the kitchen. She kept stirring after the first half hour, so I went back to swaddling and did lots of rocking and dummy shoving. Overall, she managed two hours and I made jam . If I put her up in the cot she barely manages half an hour. But swaddled and in the same room as us, in the moses basket with background noise, she goes longer. She always falls asleep easily - if I hold her. So I have just bought a hot water bottle in a bid to recreate mummy warmth when she's put down.

Right, arm is numb from baby weight. Must move.

Sorry everyone is on some kind of downer this week. It happens. Clucky had to rescue me and take me to a spa for a day after I had DD in order to prevent me from killing OH, DD and anyone elese who got too close!

And 2 children is at least 4 times as hard work as one child. Having said that - something weird happen Chez Box this morning - everyone slept in till gone 9am! I am sure we are going to pay for it later.

Am undecided as to whether DS might be a reflux sufferer. If he is it only seems to bother him between 8-10pm , and at 4am. He appears to be very uncomfortable. Then again, he might just need a big poo.

My news - I've been out riding. Hurray! Went out for an hour on a friend's ancient ploddy old cob mare. The weather was gorgeous and everything was fab. I feel much stronger than I did after DD was born, but then again I haven't had my core muscles cut in half this time, and it seems to make all the difference. OTOH, having had, err, full reconstruction I was not feeling 100% like I would have liked to have gone any faster than a walk, nor would I have like to have been on anything which prances. Still, I feel like I will be back up to speed by Christmas, and need to book me a slot on the gallops to see just how fast the racehorse goes

And horsey gals, have you seen Hey, Henny!

It's troo - I selflessly gave up my valuable time to accompany a v. v. stressed Box on a Spa Day. She spent the who day sleeping though - ungrateful caaahhh

Great footage Boxy but who the heck is Peter Atkins [clueless]???