May 2010 - Drooling, smiling, cooing and nearly sleeping through (and that's just the mummies!)

[rachelfruitloop]

Hi Ladies,

I hope you don't mind, I started a new thread as our first one was quite full! I can't believe we're a quarter-way through the first year already!

Early post. Is this a paranoid mother talking? Chloes had the sniffles for a few days so been giving calpol. She's effectively lost her voice now - all babbles and cries are so croaky and has a big gland on the side of her neck. Just a cold?

first1, poor chloe, bless her. does your gp do telephone consultations? might be worth a quick call to put your mind at rest.

had virginia weighed yesterday, 12lb 6oz at 17 weeks.

pigley, hope it wasnt bad news for your husband yesterday

we do family meals here too, always have, if you dont sit at the table and eat what is put in front of you then you do without til the next meal, seems a bit harsh when they are very small but they only did it once or twice before they learnt. we have great discussions at table now, politics, religion the lot! when they were little we used to play the story game to keep them interested. i would start with the first line of a made up story and we would go around the table, each making up at least one sentance until the story came to a natural end or we got bored, there were some VERY odd stories, you learn a lot about how childrens and mens minds work!

ML - It's your house too! Mind you I was in exactly the same predicament and I did make the decision to take Chloe and leave ourselves. (He's too selfish to realise that a baby should have stayed in her own home) so whilst he was at work when she was 3weeks old I packed as much as I could into my car and drove off. He's still living in the house alone - though fb pic suggests there might be someone else on the scene already poor cow! - plenty of space, and Chloe and I are in the attic conversion of my parents house for now. Not remotely ideal but we're away from him and that's all that matters. I couldnt get Legal Aid, and the costs are astronomical I'm afraid to say, but please do email me. It's such a horrible time but I know exactly how you must be feeling lucy m mitchell (all one word) at hotmail dot co dot uk

Rachel - Same above email address! Let's go for coffee!

Homebirth - fab about Virginia's weight! Thanks for your message, have tried GP surgery for an appt and can't get one til Monday. Ridiculous. She's having a nice long sleep now which is good.

Hi Ladies,
Typing on my mobile again, sat in a cafe while Eric is sleeping in the push chair, DS1 is at home with DH. So nice to have a little break! With cake!

ML I hope things improve for you and you get settled in to the new place soon. I'd definitely make him leave, not you!

Pamelat I've just been giving Eric a bit of food from my plate to chew on, about once a day. He's had cucumber, pasta, and roast carrot so far. As well as pizza crust! A cucumber stick is his favourite for the moment, I think chewing on it helps with the teething.

HBMummy and pigley we all sit together for regular meals as well and I completely agree about the the value of that social time! HB that's a great idea to go around the table and make a story, I'm going to try that! I know there are lots of parents out there who are quite strict about how much their kids eat, but I've found that as long as I keep offering a variety of healthy foods my DS1 eats what he needs. I follow the philosophy of The Division Of Responsibility For Eating by the dietician Ellyn Satter, it is my responsibility to decide when, where and what is offered. It's my child's responsibility to decide how much of what I offer they want to eat. I find this no pressure approach to feeding works the best for us. Of course if DS doesn't eat much of the main meal then there is no pudding, that's where I draw the line, but he usually eats pretty well. I try not to do pudding every night anyway as I don't want it to be expected, and sometimes the main meal is so filling.

I had Eric weighed on Tues and he's 20 lbs 11 oz, 20 weeks tomorrow. He's slipping down the curve a bit, about 98th percentile now.

I can't belive it, but we had 5 nights in a row with just 1 waking! I was going to bed and feeding Eric at midnight, and then he'd sleep until about 4.30 or 5 and then again until 7 or 8! Last night I fed him at 11 instead of midnight and he woke about 3.15 and again at 5 and then at 6 he was full of beans and ready to play. Luckily he went back to sleep until 8, but I think I'll go back to the midnight feed again and see if we get the same result. I'm just amazed at what a difference there is in how I feel when I only wake once!

First1 I'll email you to arrange a coffee date!

I hope all the poorly children feel better soon!

Well DH was right. Theres going to be 90 redunances out of 714 people.
DH seems pretty sure it wont be him but you just never know do you. Should find out in Nov sometime. Hate waiting.

Heffa- Yes 6.30 is the latest I would leave it for the girls to eat. It literally is dinner then upstairs for bath and bed. The hours of 5-8 can be pretty busy!

First- A telephone consulation sounds a good idea. Then they can say if they want to check her out or not.

HB- The story game sounds fab. DD1 is abit young for that yet but we just chat about our days. DD always amazes us at the level of detail in her memory of the day!

DD1 has her first Ballet lesson today. Shes so excited and has asked me to take her about 30 times already! She keeps running round shouting "exciting" ! Bless her.
Camera is at the ready :)

Meant to say Pigley I hope that things are ok with your DH's job!

rachel, eric is 20lb 11oz???????WOW he must have the most adorable squidgy thighs, i love squidge on a baby!

Have put on fb "jokingly" about how angry/upset I am with DH as for 2nd night now he has laughed at post baby tummy. Truth be told I dont find funny which he now knows but feel quite upset about it

We do have a jokey/familiar relationship but feel that I feel vulneable about my weight gain and tummy, still stone and half to lose.

He cant even see why I am uspet so wonder if I am being a little irrational. He says doesnt care what I weigh or look like but thats its "funny" as used to be slim.

hi all

feeling better here, even done some house work today
ml you shouldn't have to move, that said, it is easy to say, my friend was abandoned by her partner with a little baby and had to live with her for a couple of months, it was hell... glad to say, she is happy now, so, there is light at the end of the tunnel... hung in there, and do what you think is best.
pamelat your dh should know better than making post baby tummy jokes...i feel vulnerable about my shape too, dh makes an effort to reassure is normal and i look fine, make your dh make a note of that, should he forget it...
pigley hope your dh is going to be ok... so sorry for abi, at least you got nice pics...
rachel well done on the weight, these boys are getting bigger
first telephone consultation, or do what i did, it was early days i was not thinking clearly yet, but oscar had an infection, tiny silly thing really, but the midwife told me need to see a doctor today, there were no appointments, of course, so i went to clinic and refuse to leave until i saw a doctor or at least a nurse, i wasn't gonna take a receptionist's word for it... extreme, i know, but... last doctor i saw told me that i should take him to the clinic any time i was worried, you should trust your instincts, if you think something is wrong, then there is, it might be your paranoia that is wrong, but...

sorry if i forgot anyone, oscar is asleep and i am going to atempt to prepare dinner and eat mine before he wakes for the last bottle...

calmed down now and forgiven him but it upset me there for a minute. He also has weight to lose (more than me really) but I dont say anything and I know hes conscious of it, think he feels like its fine to say we are both "fat" but when its post baby weight (especially) feel its unfair.

Hello all sorry I haven't posted keep meaning too but you know what it's like. I am so busy it's scary. DP does half of it all when he is here but even with the 2 of us it's relentless.

Anyway the good bits Jacob 5 months about 19lbs and so gorgeous, handsome big boy will post pic on FB soon. His sleep is shocking he still cannot go longer than 3 hrs. I started weaning him about a week ago it's done nothing. last few nights he's been up screaming in the night. I'm bloody shattered, been getting migraines.

We are off to centerparcs Monday first hol as a family of 6. Oct hold up here next week.

Sorry nonpersonals will try to catch up but am reading all your posts.

hi all,
have been speaking to friends about the following but would like to get everyone elses experiences, please let me know
1 was your baby born with a good head of hair?
2 did you take vitamins during your pregnancy
3 if yes, which brand?

i am SHOCKED at what i have discovered in rl and want to know if it just chance or an actual fact......

also, just posted my first video on fb, virginia playing the keyboard-no help other than a hand around her waist bless her

First1 - hope Chloe is feeling better

Pamelat - no wonder you're upset! I'd be furious. DH and I have a very jokey relationship too but if there's something that one of us is sensitive about it's a no-go area. Glad you've forgiven him though, hope you're feeling a better. You look stunning in your FB pics though, doesn't look like you need to lose any weight :)

SK - good to see you, hope you're OK and have a fab holiday :)

Rachel - 20lb 11oz! That's a fantastic weight! I have no idea how much Corin weighs now, must get him checked.

Re family meals - love the idea of making up stories, that's fab :) Will steal it for meals at weekend. I can't wait till the DCs can stay up long enough for us all to eat together during the week. I follow the same philosophy as Rachel with food and DD is a reasonable eater. She seems to eat when she's hungry, doesn't eat when she's not, isn't fussy and eats fairly healthily out of choice so it's worked for us :) I don't have any sense of taste which made me a horribly fussy eater as a child and mealtimes were really unpleasant until my mum found out what was going on (when I was about 7, she's always felt really guilty about it all) so I'm a bit obsessive about relaxed mealtimes.

hb

1. utterly bald, has a bit now though, blonde.
2. and 3. yes, just the pregnancare thingy with the folic acid

I have never heard about vitamins and hair in babies, IME blondes are baldies and darker haired babies seem to have loads more hair. I have take Sanatogen multivits with all 4, the DDs were all bald with a little tuft of hair, Jacob has loads and it's dark.

Hi all

Just a quick catch up - DSis now on BP meds, target is to get her to 37 weeks (20th Oct)so we'll see how she goes. Fingers crossed....

Off to center parcs tomorrow (Sherwood Forest one) just for the weekend. Really looking forward to it but seem to have packed enough for to go away for about three weeks! I always overpack to ridiculous extremes, I wish I could be one of those people who just take a small elegant bag for a weekend, but sadly not.

HB - 1. DS1 - yes, full head of brown hair but lost is all and has grown back blonde and wavy; DD1 - a bit of hair, hasn't lost any, and has stayed a reddy-brown colour; 2/3. Yes with DS - Sanatogen Pro-Natal (I think); DD - just Tesco own brand folic acid for 14 weeks.

What have you found out - do share!!

Hey All...

Molly & Pamelat - glad i'm not the only emotional wreck!! Glad its all 'normal'! :)

Tomlin - hope your Dsis is ok.

Rachel - i'm really glad your meeting with Brucie's mum went well. She sounds like she is very strong, had a very large lump in my throat when reading your post. Congrats on Erics weight :)

WLTK - glad to hear all ailments disappearing in your household, hopefully you are taking care of yourself :)

Heffa - hope your DD ok

Pigley - congrats with DDs dry days & good luck with the nights!! Hope your DHs job is ok. Hope ballet went well :)

SK - Hope Jacobs sleep improves, no wonder you're so tired. Hope you have a fab holiday and can relax abit??? :)

Homebirth - he had hair but not a massive head of it. Took pregnacare & folic acid

Molly - sounds like you have your hands full!! Hope Dhs hand heals quickly

First - please dont be hard on yourself - given everything you have gone through recently i'm not surprised you've lost weight. Like the girls say, take this as a warning to look after yourself :)

ML - don't really know what to say, apart from thinking of you and hope things get easier soon

Family meal times sound good, wish i had more space so we could have a dinner table, just meals on laps here.

Not much happening here, still no word from hospital re Rian's op - they say they should have a better idea of when surgery will be in around 4 weeks time as they have a new system or something and things abit of a mess right now.

Just looked back my post and i'm liking :) tonight!!!

Rachel- Wow Eric is doing very well isnt he! My DD weighed 20lbs at 1 year but she was/is a skinny little rake!
Glad to hear your feeling brighter now your getting more sleep.

Pamlet- I too would be anoyed if DH kept joking about it. No chance of that here, he wouldnt dare... plus I dont think hes even seem my tummy lately! It dark when we go to bed as Lucy is still in with us or he is up late on his laptop whilst I go to bed alone :(
As ive said before, Im not seen in that way anymore anyway.

WLTK- Glad your starting to feel better.

SK- GLad to hear Jacob is going well. :) Have a fab break too. Try and get an hour to yourself at some point :)

HBM- DD1 had a huge mop of Hair! Like a little wig! No vitamins here.
Lucy has thick hair at the back and a tufty bit on the top, again no vitamins.

potty training... DD is shocking me slightly and has 4 nights with dry pull ups! I guess we are cracking that pretty quickly too!

As most of you on FB will have seen Poor DD didnt get her first Ballet lesson again!
She was all ready to go in her tutu but just a cancelled note on the door! Had a very upset little girl all afternoon.
Ive told her ill find a new Ballet so I now have a few calls to make tomorrow.
Sooo cross

Slightly peeved with DH at the mo. He won again at poker last night which is great. He came home tonight having bought himself an Iphone 4. Fine I dont mind but when i mentioned the other day a new changing bag id seen that I liked at £140 (crazy i know) he freaked out about it, yet his phone was £500 and his new laptop was £1,500. Kinda his winning his money, yet my photo shoot earnings have gone on new clothes for the girls.
I guess i just feel sad that since being a SAHM I dont have money to buy myself nice things. Bit like im just Mummy and dont need anything nice. Bit of jealousy i guess

Afternoon in the park planned for tomorrow as the weather is due to be nice :)

just a quick post..living with dh is unbearable..he just ignores me and keeps out of my way..I have started divorce proceedings citing unreasonable behaviour..I was advised that this covered a multitude of sins..managed to get an earlier appt so DM babysat..

I cant go..I have no where to go..DH has nowhere to go..what a pathetic situation..we are going to end up divorced but sharing a roof...counselling is not going to happen..you cant make someone love you

Ive never felt to unhappy..I find it hard to beleive there isnt someone else

First1 I will email you tomorrow

hbm

Very little hair - almost completely bald
Yes
pregnacare

Ditto DD1!

ML - what a terrible situation. exDP and I split when DD1 was a wee baby - he'd started an affair with a mutual friend when I was pregnant. I know that pain of someone you loved just blanking you and being a hollow shadow, when you need them to support you most. So, so sorry [sad

Pram discussion from yonks back (sorry, too busy - juggling full-time work around full-time SAHM!) - DD1 now in the buggy but laid almost flat. She much prefers it to the pram.

Hope all's well with everyone - I read regularly - just don't have time to contribute much!

pamelat hope your DH calms down with his 'teasing'. My DH has only made one or two comments but as he has put on a lot of weight over the last couple of years he can't really say anything. I know he feels bad about it but he is very bad about actually doing anything about it.

Homebirth I only took folic acid during pregnancy (up to 12 weeks) and that was it. Both DDs were born with a fair bit of hair (with DD2 the MW said she could feel it when she did the sweep ) and DD1 at 18 months has far more hair than most of her friends.

SK glad to hear you're still around but sorry that you're still having such disturbed nights. Have a great holiday....

Rachel great weight! DD2 is nowhere near that but each time I pick her up i do keep thinking that she's quite a chunky monkey

As for mealtimes, we tried DD2 in her bumbo on the table last night as although she's still a way off being able to start weaning we thought it was really time she saw what went on during mealtimes. We eat quite late (7-7.30) because DH gets home late from work but it has worked out ok most of the time as DD1 then goes to bed straight afterwards. Whether she'll be able to stay up so late once she's at school and awake all day, I don't know....

Pigley sorry to hear about the cancelled ballet. Also don't worry - you're not the only one with a DH who doesn't really notice things anymore. DH only registered a few weeks ago that I was wearing a bra to bed - I've only been doing it since about January as it is the only way to stop myself leaking in the night! I have high hopes for our trip to Center Parcs to inject a bit of romance (oh lord, am I really counting on CP for that?!). As for the money, I don't know what to say; I'm still getting some mat pay but DH is pretty good about me spending money (mainly because I don't!) so if there was something that I really wanted he would probably be ok with it.

ML again I don't know what to say as it doesn't sound like there's a quick fix to this one. I just hope that you manage to stay strong and remember that you don't deserve to be treated badly.

Anyone with older children able to help? DD1, 18 months, has got all her teeth apart from the back four molars which apparently come in around 2-2.5. The last couple of days, the snotty nose has started again and the amount of drool and dribble coming out of her mouth is soaking her tops. She can't be teething again surely? Is there anything else that happens round this age? I'm fed up of her slobbering all over me, especially when I've just put clean trousers on...

caricube..I remember with my older DCS..teething symptoms started a few months before the back teeth started to erupt

hi all

baby let me sleep until 10.30 this morning, and i say he let me sleep because he was awake, playing in a messed up cot...
i just got a very pleasant letter from my energy provider, turns up that we overpaid this year and we are getting a £550 refund, bye bye xmas money worries....

cari my nephew was teething last time i spend time with him, at 3 yo, and he puts his whole fist till the very back of his mouth... 3 tshirts a day

pigley his winnings, his money, my ass. his family, your money, a £140 nappy bag might be an extravagance, but so is an iphone4. you need to rearrange his priorities me thinks. hope you find a new class for abi, and she loves it. romance, we find it difficult also, so we do at home dates when oscar is asleep, movie, popcorn...
ml strenght, sister. is there anything we can do?
tomlin everything cross for your sister, 20th is not too far away, hope everything goes well.
family meals- my parents and pil still do them, we all eat together in huge tables, great to clear up any animosity and the whole family intervenes, we found that the kids eat better when they eat with us... we'll be doing the same, work pattern permitting, but certainly on the weekends.

ML that's not good - I can't face another 6 months of this level of slobber....

Tomlin - you will be leaving CPs as we are getting there, such a pity we could have met up! I'm the same pack everything. Am having to ditch the P&T and take the Maclaren as I need the space!

Oh prams, Jacob has been out the cocoon lie flat bit of his pram since 8 weeks as he screamed in it, he's now either in the second seat of the P&T for longer journeys/raining or the Maclaren Techno XT for shorted ones. I bought the XT when DD1 was 6 weeks old to get on and off London buses. It's been fab, it's a bit knackered now so think I might invest in a new one once I sell the P&T. It is fine from birth (have had a newborn in it too) we have the matching cosytoes and it is so snug.

pigley - I would be peed off with that as well. I have to admit mine is very good with money much better than me, he has never once said it's his money as he earns it or anything. He does question the amount I spend on the kids but hey they grow as I keep telling him! Poor Abigail as well missing her class.

Carikube - to be honest with the other 3 theie back molars seemed to just come through with no sort of problems. DD3's are all in now and she's 2.3mo now. Started coming through just before her 2nd birthday four at once, I didn't notice anything different in her behaviour either.

ML - you simply cannot live like that, can your solicitor suggest something mitigation etc? HE has got to move out it's that simple. Hope something works out for you.

Right am off to watch True Blood whilst DD3 is having a nap and before school run only chance I will get, I SHOULD be doing housework but sod it, I have a sore throat and am shattered as per usual.