Dec 08 Ladies - LIghtning Strikes... and the usual gossip!

[Beans33]

Hope this works for everyone - I'm assuming Summer won't give birth in the next few hours!! x

Effie Er Yuck, poor you. Coincidentally, just seen a thread moaning about a puppy. OP was advised to return and swap for a handbag!

I could do with a new handbag - good plan!

New handbag every time Effie.

Thanks again for all the advice / support.
Dhe has fed a bit better since my last post. I haven't expressed but I am giving her a top up of formula at night (right after a BF ) but I've also started the Fenugreek and although she is favouring one side, I'm trying to get past that by doing the football hold with the other side which seems to be working. I've a feeling that whoever said she needs a while to get used to the new tongue and feeding might be quite accurate in this case too.
Anyway, wish my parents were slightly more maternal, but mil is coming over hopefully although am slightly worried that she will take a step back since my own mum is here, which won't be ideal!! Having said that, my Mum will probably step up and do a bit of 'show grandparenting' and spend less time with the dog since she knows how much I've been singing mil praises
Guess at least she admits she isn't as grandparenty as most....

Vag / lady where is the meetup?

Beans - Thanks for your advice too, and I've been meaning to say, I'm so glad you came back to the thread too. Hope you don't dissapear again

I'm afraid I haven't been able to catch up too much and comment on everyone else's lives. Thanks Lady - but I have been recently self centred - however reason to be I guess

Dhe? I mean dd obviously!
Oh and bloody heck - newest problem is ds is getting majorly jealous and being rather naughty wanting my full attention which obviously can't happen at the moment. mil might come over a bit more when parent't are off home as she totally takes him off and entertains, but I guess unless hse moves in (no) I may well have this problem until dd gets a bit bigger

Rubs I've no advice in the DS jealously as DS1 was older, but the others here quoted some MN posts on the subject. On the self centered thing, I think if there is ever a need or excuse for self-centred-ness it's the bride at a wedding and pregnancy and the 1st 3000 weeks after birth.

Kiwi we are meeting at RFH at 1pm on the 27th please please please come. Also maybe the trip to NY will help reduce her feeds, also maybe she knows something is up, they are amazing at sensing stuff and acting accordingly. Maybe she see that you are nervous about leaving her so she is nervous too and is clinging to that boob for dear life.

Veggie oh I will definitely be there! DD will be at nursery but i've got the day off...

Hey has anyone read One Day by David Nicholls??

Famous last words...... have just spent the whole entire morning almost constantly feeding her, and she screamed and screamed each time after she seemed to have finished, then I gave in and made up some formula and she downed 3 oz like she'd never been fed
She goes ok for awhile and then it turns difficult.... That's the problem, I need someone to witness a full 24 hours !!
Vag, how are you for accom in London?
Don't want to stay here as my lactation consultant???

and she has slept ever since..... aaahh

Did she wake up in a better mood, Rubes? Babies are unfathomable things.

Rubs she's probably just trying to increase your supply? The trouble with giving her the formula in that sense is that it will extend the problem ie not let her keep driving you nuts by sucking away to get that milk going...Sorry that's not meant to sound anti-formula and I'm a bit out o touch with the thread so apologies if I've misses loads and therefore also missed the point! But DD used to (err still does) that kind of cluster feeding for a while then lay off a bit then do it again...

Kiwi I've bought 'one day' as an iBook on my itouch buy am yet to start it because I'm on mn too much-- still trying to finish the last millennium book.

Watching BBC proms youth orchestra, oh their mums must be so proud.

We had the first of DS1's birthday parties today. It was combined with his friends birthday at his house (his mum & I are friends from the ANZWC). We hired a bouncy castle and did a bit of snacky food, & a large amount of cheerfulness. It was great fun everyone had a great time, parents and kids. It was also good to meet some of the dads (I mainly only see the ladies) and also for the dads to meet each other. DH has been missing his mates and while he likes his workmates he's not that close to any of them and apparently it's the same for a lot of the girls hubbys as most are also Aussie or English. There was talk of a boys night out at some stage.

Right I'm shattered so time for a late dinner match of the day then bed.

Hi Kiwi - but thing is - if she is feeding from me for over 6 hours and still hungry, I've gotta feed the child somehow, and if she's not getting enough from me, I don't know what choice I have. I'm certainly letting her do her part to stimulate supply.
I think I've had too many different opinions and advice and probably easier to figure out what works best for her / me - as Beans said.
Hi Effie - yeah she woke up totally content, and feeding was pretty good overnight actually.

Yay - sounds like she's getting there! I forgot with ds2 that not only did I have to re-learn how to feed a newborn, he had to learn from scratch. And that was without any complications from Tongue tie.

And def go with what works for you!

Re DS1 getting jealous, have you any toddler groups nearby? I found that if I went to those DS1 was so busy with new toys and running round with other tots that he didn't notice all the cuddles DS2 was getting!

rubs your post reminded me of when DD was a baby...she literally fed all morning. I remember ringing my mum in tears telling her to get some formula on the way round. Mum gave her about 4 oz which she guzzled down and then both of us slept for about 4 hours...it all seemed so much better when I woke. BF can be really hard, I remember being really f*cked off too that books and stuff said if it hurt I was doing it wrong. Anyway, just wanted to say that if the odd FF helps and keeps mum sane then it can only be a good thing - you do what works best for you both.

effie gross about the nappy, I believe handbags are much less messy

Slightly miffed I don't live nearer to london...I would love to meet tou ladies.

Had a great night out on Friday and a lovely day at the Zoo yesterday (we had got the DC's back by this point). A lazy Sunday needed I think.

Aw Jeepers, Rubes, hope things start to settle a bit for you. I am clueless as you know and it must be so hard to know what's best. Aaaarrgh. Wish I could say something useful. On the other hand, I know your head is spinning with tips. But I will tell you that DP's colleague, whom we bumped into the other day, was raving to DP how gorgeous you are. I know it's not much of a compliment from a 52 yr old womaniser recently estranged from his much younger wife, but how lovely to make such an impression on someone a fortnight after having had a baby! So thought I'd pass that on

That's great you had a good night out, DB! You are making me laugh with those hamsters. I bet they create mayhem. DD

Effie - re: dirty protest - grimola...DD has started this weird thing of stripping herself off (including nappy) then just weeing where she likes. I fear a more substantial accident is only a matter of time. But I don't quite know how to handle it with her. Generally, if I discourage something, it encourages it

Kiwi, I have read One Day, as has Invis and I think SL. I won't say much about it as I don't want to spoil it. It's an enjoyable read, though. NY must be soon? We have had counting to 9 and recognising numbers in books since June and I have actually been dying to say but I didn't want to sound like one of those ghastly boastful mothers But obviously I am now. However, I do need to cheer myself up with something and I hope you all forgive my shameless pride about it, especially as she might count but won't walk or eat! The eating is only improving a teeny tiny amount, but I suppose it is very early days and a long haul. Walking - still on the cruising, getting more confident standing, will walk a couple of steps between adults she trusts or walk holding one hand.

Your party yesterday sounds lovely, Veggie. The weather is crummy here now.

Reminded myself of Toy Story 2 last night as want to see Toy Story 3 The song Jessie sings about her owner growing up and discarding her is just too too sad

Have lovely Sundays, all. I will be DIYing, obv.

Are you anywhere near Chakeham (sp?), Lady? Dp is there today with a friend playing in a golf tournament - Chakeham vs the rest of the world. I fear twill be pissing down.

Lady: we watched Toy Story 2 yesterday. I sniffed a bit at that song too.

Rubs God 6 hours is pretty hideous, poor you! I remember when DD was feeding badly/ I was in pain i swear every single person I met told me something different. You should stick your fingers in your ears and yell "nah nah nah" and do what works for you. I think it helps to get into some kind of routine (not in the Gina Ford sense, just in a "this is how we do it" sense if that makes errr... sense) to make you feel more in control. But hey, we're not in control are we?? I was last in control shortly before going into labour with DD. Ahhh I miss it...

LadyT I've actually just finished One Day and I think I'm the only person who didn't like it. I can't say why though in case others want to read it, don't want to give anything away! But I found myself quite angry when I finished it

Yes New York is from 8th September so not long now at all. Eek!

I've also just realised it's nearly DH and I's 4th anniversary. Someone told me that is "books" - anyone know if that's true?? Want to treat him to something nice, at any rate.

Kiwi - well, the website I have just looked at cites 'fruit and flowers' for traditional and 'linen, silk and nylon' for modern. Well, well, well. I must say I have never heard of a 'books' one, though it would be much nicer than the above. One Day - I do think I felt a bit manipulated/worked at the end, but I guess my expectations were probably quite low for the book, having read Starter for Ten, as I think he does enjoyable, contemporary pap. I know what you mean, though. I felt a bit grrr at the end of The Time Traveller's Wife, and Captain Corelli's Mandolin (which should win the prize for the most overrated novel of the 1990s).

Spot, I have never ever heard of Chakeham - DP hasn't either! I wonder where it is?

It's Oxfordshire - near Banbury I think?

Ahhh. I don't know Banbury and surrounding area v well, that explains it. The sun's out here now so maybe he will be ok. I am bunking off cricket today as too busy.

Hmm linen and silk it is for DH

That's exactly how I felt at the end of all those books too. I'm reading Audrey whatsits latest one now tho I'm not sure why... What puzzles me is how many reviews I've read claiming one Day is 'laugh out loud' funny. I don't think I even cracked a smile. It's chick lit really, that just happens to be written by a man. Not that there's anything wrong with chick lot, just not when it pretends - or other people claim - that it's something else...

Actually Lady, that did cheer me up in a creepy kind of way! As did you Deidre - that's exactly what happens except she screams and draws her legs up like its wind but it's really not as she always burps and then guzzles formula. She's also very needy too I mean loves to be picked up and sometimes just cries and cries then stops when you pick her up and then is content for about 20 minutes then goes into baby bird starving mode with her mouth wide open searching for food
The best news is she doesn't look jaundice at all and is obviously looking fatter these days. dh is off work until the end of the month - well except he has to do about 3 days of his other work in London - then all it's associated work in between, but at least there are some sleep in's in my future. Took parents to airport today and they are off to Spain for a few days.
I will say one thing - although I'm not majorly stressed I do think I have had a constant underlying kind of stress which is apparent purely due to having so much family staying originally and then added to that is a bit of stress from not being able to do this feeding thing like I could with ds