Oct 08 - On our way to the terrible twos! Noooooo we're not ready!

[50ftQueenie]

Here we go ladies.....At the speed we've been moving it might be the terrible twos thread! It's the final count down.......

Well, it's over. 30 mins and she got the sample - smear test complete. It was not nice

Star - I hope this doesn't come across as horribly patronising but, honestly, well done. I know that it was really hard for you go there, so you should feel really pleased with yourself. Hopefully you won't need to do it again for 5 years!

Not patronising at all! Thank you :) I'm giving myself chocolate for a treat :) the last few times they haven't even been able to get IN so this was a big achievement. It turns out I'm quite skilled at making myself "unavailable" subconsciously/involuntarily (I don't even realise I'm tense until the nurse says something.... Explains some of the pain in sex... Sorry TMI).

It did take 30 mins but nurse was super patient and kind and eventually locked the door once I felt at ease with her.

Sigh of relief!!

I've been aware of the tension for a while. I just don't actually know when I'm doing it and think I'm relaxing but my muscles involuntarily just tense up. This is why they couldn't get in previously. She said "but you've had a baby. It is unusual that you can do this"

I just have a huge problem with someone I do not know or trust, using a tool to pry and hold open my vagina and then have it open for them to insert anything they would like - I'm absolutely sick and anxious just writing that.

I go into a panic and have horribly irrational fears of what might happen. I felt a bit better with Q there because she was nice and built up a bit of a rapport talking to me and playing with Q.... then I knew she wouldn't let anything happen with Q there, so I let her lock the door and then I knew it would be ok. She said something to make me laugh while she was trying to get the speculum in and that relaxed everything and she did it just right then. :)

It makes such a difference if the person doing it is nice doesn't it Star. Actually I used to have a similar issue. I couldn't have any kind of internal exam for quite a while - I'd get really distressed about it. It's made even worse when the person trying to examine you gets impatient about it. Eventually I had to see a consultant about something gynae-related. She turned out to be lovely, realised that I had a problem and referred me to see a counsellor about it to resolve some of the issues behind it. It took a while but I'm fine now.

My sister's like you with blood tests, Pistachio. She tried to give blood once - a terrible idea. She ended up on the floor.

I've had counselling but I don't think the panic and fear will ever go away (counsellor said this as well ).

Especially since, even though I was already very anxious about internal exams before childbirth, during the birth to internally examine me, the midwife was so impatient that she had dh hold my arms down and another (trainee? who knows who that was) help hold me down while she forced herself into me to examine me.

Well done star :). You've reminded me that I must organise mine, as I got the letter to say it was due just after I had found out that I was pregnant with J.

Pistachio - have you tried using some numbing cream before blood tests?

cf - hope that the hormone changes signal the beginning of happy times for you.

Nearly the end of a shit week here. Things can only get better!

Star. That's awful.

CSWS sorry to hear you're having an crap time. Is it "just" the normal logistics of having two youngsters and a tiny baby to deal with or something else?

Ronshar - Is it the op tomorrow? Good luck. Hope it all goes well. Happy Birthday to W too!

Oh it's Thursday! Happy birthday W for tomorrow and good luck with the op, ronshar.
Thanks pistachio I should have a read. I don't want other women to experience that, though :( that might make me feel worse. It shouldn't happen

No not just usual logistics cf. Highlights have included a flat tyre whilst out with the boys, massive amounts of pain from a wisdom tooth on the move (both jaw pain and infected mouth), and finding a dead mouse on my kitchen floor. Also today I was all geared up to take D for his blood test (RAST test for some of his allergies) and had just smeared him in numbing cream and wrapped him in clingfilm when the surgery phoned to say that the phlebotomist was refusing to do it because he's so young, so we have to go to the hospital for it. Dh is going to miss his conference call tomorrow and take him instead, as I can't face having to drive J there (still hates car), struggle to park, wait around in pathology for ages and then have to manage D whilst undoubtedly by then feeding J.

Good luck with op tomorrow Ronshar, and happy birthday to W.

hi all,

that's great news Star and the nurse sounds really nice. you can forget about it for another 5 years!!

Pistachio - you can do muscle tension exercises to stop you feeling faint etc when having blood taken, get a cut/splinter. Its something to do with blood pressure drop when an 'injury' happens to your body and if you do the exercises, its stops your blood pressure dropping too far...will try to find a link. Oh and you are not a wimp, its an autonomic response beyond your control or will power, so there!!

CSWS - sorry you're having a tough time, sounds like the logistics of your week are mind boggling.

DH's dad funeral on weds. Had a government advisor coming to see me that day so will have to cancel and doubt it will get rearranged this year - not looking forward to phoning to cancel that meeting. i guess I have a good excuse! Dreading having to tell DS1 tomorrow but DH will be home by teatime so we will tackle it together. trying to find stuff on explaining funerals to 4yo, what a jolly google search that's been.

goodluck for tomorrow Ronshar and happy birthday W

Hello ladies. Had a crap week as M has decided that she is afraid of the dark so when she wakes up in the night she screams to come into our bed rather than just going back to sleep. She then kicks and wriggles just to make sure I get no sleep at all. :( I have tried a nightlight, but it made no difference. I am K N A C K E R E D. In addition, M's passport still hasn't arrived as it is one that has been 'randomly chosen' for extra checking. Hmm..... extra checking on the passport of a 2 year old. So, I might be staying here with her while the boys go off to the US.

CSWS - Sorry to hear about your rubbish week. Hopefully the weekend will be better. How annoying of the doctor to give you an appointment and then mess you about! Surely they knew D's age at the time the appointment was made!

Star - Well done! It is a huge deal for you and you should feel very proud of yourself. We are a walking everywhere, in all weathers family too (well, when DH is not around).

Pistachio - Cannulas fill me with dread and I have to have the numbing cream or I nearly vomit when they insert them. My hands swell up and my veins collapse. Lovely!

Loulou - Very sorry to hear that your FIL passed away. :( I hope talking to DS1 about it isn't too traumatic. Little boys sometimes surprise you and are very matter of fact about things, but it will be hard for your and DH no matter what.

Ronshar - Good luck for tomorrow. Hope it's not too traumatic and enjoy having a lie down, make sure you drag it out for as loooooooong as possible. I think you're owed that. Happy Birthday to W.

CF - I am still feeding M but with DS stopping bfing made no difference as my periods returned properly after about 3 months! So, alas, I am no help. Hope they settle down, that this is a one-off and you don't end up with hellish periods again.

Myjob - Our girls are in cahoots again. Naughty pickles keeping us up all night! Hope she settles down again for you soon.

Q has been moaning to come into our bed by 2-3am... Sometimes as early as midnight, then wriggling around and kicking (though going back to sleep) most every night - I consider it a good night when he doesn't wriggle about too much. I don't think I can remember what it's like to sleep an entire night. Though I will say Q is "sleeping through" now (as he is, except the little wake to get into our bed). The nights where he screamed about teeth/ears were killer, though.
Hmmmm I thought Q was sleeping very well.... But reading your post, 50ft, I'm questioning that. It's good because now I know that it could be better and I can look forward to more sleep soon.
So tired today. All just catching up I think

Loulou have you read the book, the tenth good thing about barney? I have found it helpful in discussing death with children. :( so sorry you are going through this. What a difficult time for you all.

Your dd sounds like S, Pistachio. He's been coughing for a few days and his voice was really hoarse. He had a temperature earlier in the week but his cold has only really just come out.

He comes into our bed early in the early hours and drives me mad kicking and squirming. He sleeps pretty well up to that point though (except for a few nights earlier this week when he was poorly) so I can't complain.

Also - I meant to say but got distracted by ds, CSWS I'm not surprised you'r fed up. Hope the weekend sees and improvement. We had a dead mouse in the bedroom the other day. Gross.

pistachio.

A mouse in the bedroom would be truly gross cf. There have been signs of one being upstairs this week, but hopefully it's the little bugger that's dead now.

Oh yes let's do SS and start it up early :) Q is watching the gruffalo for the 1,000th time and we will go read the gruffalo for the 1millionth time in a minute. Late night as he and dh went swimming (while I watched, cleaned him after, dressed...etc)