June 10 babies have arrived. Now we are all sleep deprived!

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Welcome to 'the other side' ladies. Long may we all continue to post!

ARRIVALS
27/04 (due 23/06) - SunshineDay - Faye - 3lbs 2oz
16/05 (due 02/06) - Meggymegmegs - James (Jimmy) David, 7lb 1oz
19/05 (due 01/06) - whenwillisleepagain - Alice Emily, 8lb 7oz
21/05 (due 21/06) - Gizmo - Hester Rose - 6lbs
23/05 (due 9/06) - greensnail, Alice Elizabeth, 7lb 2oz
24/05 (due 8/06) - Saucepanman, Gabriel, 8lb 4oz
24/05 (due 31/05) - minimoonumber2, Sebastian Robin
26/05 (due 24/06) - GibberingGinger James Alexander, 5lb 13oz, & Douglas John, 5lb 15oz
28/05 (due 30/05) - GoodName, Fergus, 8lb
28/05 (due 31/05) - mampam, Tilly May, 9lb 11oz
28/05 (due 4/06) - jo807bump - Hannah May, 5lb 7.5oz
04/06 (due 07/06) - perkster - Sidney James Perkins Berner, 7lb 11oz
05/06 (due 31/05) - dinosaurinmybelly - Zoe Leila - 6lb 9oz
07/06 (due 02/06 ) - AlwaysHopeful - George, 7lb 13oz
07/06 (due 07/06) - MrsC09 - Rufus Jack
08/06 (due 01/06) - PogueMahone - Magnus Gabriel, 8lb 14.5oz
08/06 (due 11/06) - woofie - Laurence Elliot (Laurie) - 7lb 11oz
08/06 (due 21/06) - sunworshipper - Romola Ann Bettina, 5lb 15oz
09/06 (due 08/06) - LittleRobbo - Summer Dawn
09/06 (due 09/06) - Boobz - Constance Ella Reed,
11/06 (due 02/06) - Justbeme - 'Nobody' (boy) - 8lb 9oz
12/06 (due 02/06) - roundabout1 - Lauren - 8lb 14oz
13/06 (due 18/06) - Virgo1979 - nameless boy! 7lb 9oz
14/06 (due 30/06) - monthlymayhem - Hayden, 7lb
14/06 (due 08/06) - MrsAlwaysRight - Alice Rose, 9lb 7oz
14/06 (due 15/06) - Millymollymoo - boy
15/06 (due 31/05) - RnB - Artemis, 7lb 9oz
15/06 (due 29/06) - playftseforme - Rory 6lb 4oz, and Fergus 6lb 8oz
16/06 (due 17/06) - Chestnut100 - Daisy Belle 6lb 14oz
17/06 (due 01/06) - Madamfreckle - Emma 6lb 6oz
17/06 (due 30/06) - MonkeyMargot - Atticus Fox 7lb 8oz and Rafferty Bear 7lb 14oz
17/06 )due 04/06) - Suzy1975 - Samuel 7lb 14oz
18/06 (due 23/06) - earlyonemorning - Edgar William 7lb 8oz
18/06 (due 13/06) - sobloodystupid - Stella 8lb 8oz
19/06 (due 22/06) - Gaelicsheep - Robin 6lb 14oz
22/06 (due 14/06) - Fillybuster - Mia Rae 9lb 3oz
24/06 (due 16/06) - Nizzynoodles - Samuel James 10lb 10.5oz
24/06 (due 17/06) - summerhols - Lilly
25/06 (due 17/06) - Barbeasty - Ruth Damaris Rose, 9lb
26/06 (due 16/06) - JoKettle - James Lennox, 8lb 7oz
26/06 (due 29/06) - MrsDmamee - Elyssa, 8lb 5oz
28/06 (due 26/06) - imkeepingmum - girl, 7lb 11oz
28/06 (due 12/06) - Georgee - Anna Rose, 7lb 15.5oz
28/06 (due 12/06) - Elena67 - boy, 9lb 5oz
29/06 (due 17/06) - bluesnowfalcon - Corey, 8lb 11.75oz
29/06 (due 18/06) - theperfectbaguette - Clementine Jemima, 6lb
29/06 (due 26/06) - RubyReins - Luke Douglas, 7lb 14oz
29/06 (due 25/06) - Ilovemyterrier - Jeppe Sebastian Fagerlund, 7lb 6.5oz
01/07 (due 30/06)- LaTrucha - Daniel Timothy, 8lb 11oz
3/7 (due 29/06) - CantSleepWontSleep - Jeremy Francis, 9lb 4oz

I agree! MonkeyMargot - to get not just one, but two sleeping from 7-6 at this early stage is nothing short of witchcraft!

CantSleep - That's definitely good news but I'm sure it would be more comforting to be given a shorter time-scale for it to close. Hopefully the scan next year will show an improvement.

Thanks, Emma seems a bit better now. I managed to get a dose of calpol down her which got her off to sleep properly and she hasn't been quite so inconsolable since. The jabs have messed with her tummy though. Hoping she'll wake up happy tomorrow as we're going away for a few days.

We're due for another bash at a London meet-up, aren't we? Sounds like Westfield could be just the ticket...I've never been but heard it's fab! Sometime mid-September maybe, once those of us whose babies aren't doing 11 hours straight (note to self: MM says this is not sleeping through...eek!) have had a bit more time to get one top of things?

I'm off to set up a thread - back with a link in a bit...

London meet-up sounds great Filly, and Westfield is really good to get to so good suggestion.

CSWS that sounds really positive re. J's heart - you must feel very relieved.

Can't remember who else was going to have the Mirena coil fitted, but I've been having really heavy bleeding for the past 2 days, like a very heavy period. Spoke to the nurse who wasn't overly helpful, saying things like "oh well, your periods will continue for a few months" (ignoring the fact I'd just told her I'm BF and am not having periods!). There is nothing in the leaflet I was given re. heavy bleeding so now i'm unsure what to think. Anyone have any experience of the coil?

CSWS How could I have missed this? I had no idea Jeremy had a hole in his heart. Just show's what a zombie I've been since having Tilly. I'm so glad that the outlook seems very positive for him , must be a relief.

MM Some of my friends have a Mirena Coil fitted and I think it's pretty normal to experience some heavy bleeding at first. Hopefully it will settle down soon, just a pain in the meanwhile!

I'm having a bad couple of days . I'm really tired (although god only knows why when I'm having plenty of sleep) and as I'm sure you all know, everything seems 10x worse when you're tired.

Can't focus on my diet, it takes a hell of a lot of planning (meals etc) but I'm too tired to be bothered plus it's not helped along by the fact that our main oven doesn't work so we've only got the top oven which is as good as useless so trying to think of low fat meals that can be cooked mainly on the hob is quite hard work. Not as simple as bunging something in the oven and getting it out when it's all cooked and ready!

Plus, my house is a complete tip, not helped by dc's 1&2 who are the untidiest pair and don't listen to a single thing I say when I ask them to a)not make the mess in the first place and b)to tidy it up.
DH went absolutely balistic last night because the house was such a tip when he came home from work. It's very frustrating because dc's 1&2 have absolutely no respect for us and our house but when they are at their dad's house they are the complete opposite, this drives DH insane and me too if I'm honest.
I find it very hard to tidy up such a pigsty with Tilly as she still doesn't like being left unoccupied for a few minutes at a time and in this house we seem to have to make the mess worse before it gets better IYSWIM? If I had a couple of hours to myself I could do it but that's never going to happen.

Anyway I'll stop moaning now. We're off out to my friends house this afternoon as by getting out of the house is the only way I can think of to stop DC's making such a mess!
Hope you all have a good weekend and hope the weather cheers up, drizzly and misty down here on the coast.

Hello Everone :) Please may I join? I have only just discovered Mumsnet whilst googling for some advice.
Kaylah Rose born 2nd June (was due May 22nd but she wasn't in any hurry to meet us) weighing 6lb 15oz.

She has been sleeping through for about 3 weeks now which is fantastic but I think I'm still paying my sleep debt atm.
We're doing great with BF, not so great with getting her to take EBM from a bottle though! She is very reluctant :(
I am going out for a few hours tomorrow and leaving her alone with DP for the first time ...so fingers crossed she doesn't scream the house down!

Welcome Rizey glad to hear sleeping/feeding going well

Alice is doing well and is sleeping through, just need to get her to go to sleep a bit earlier now. I've expressed some milk for her so hope to try her with a bottle over the weekend.

Have got her hospital appointment through for her heart murmur for 1st September. Hopefully we will get good news like csws

Welcome Rizey :)

Ladies...attention please:

LONDON MEETUP THREAD IS NOW LIVE AND OVER HERE SO COME AND JOIN ME

Hi everyone. I've been mostly lurking this week as haven't really had the brain-room to post anything. We're down in Exeter househunting and have put an offer in on a place today, so are nervously biting our finger nails waiting to hear if we've got it. Has been thoroughly exhausting dragging the girls around houses all week so hope we won't need to do that again!

Am carefully ignoring all the sleeping through babies. Alice is still some way off that but I'm not too concerned. DD1 first slept through regularly just before 6 months, so I'm not really expecting it yet.

Good luck for Alice's appointment MrsAR, hope you get good news too.

Hi all

csws good news on the heart murmur, but I can imagine that ?It?ll probably sort itself out in the next 20 years? wasn?t really the reassurance you were looking for. Fingers crossed for J.

Fingers crossed for you too MrsAR

Greensnail I?m with you, standing with my back to everyone with my fingers in my ears saying ?La, la, la, I can?t hear you?? to anyone with a baby sleeping through. Especially MM - how can both of them be sleeping through?! Seems nothing short of a miracle to me.

George is still feeding twice per night. Very occasionally, if he wakes for his first feed late enough (say around 2) he?ll wake for his second feed at 5.30/6 ish, so I count that as only having been up once during the night. It is starting to wear me out, but aside from this, he?s a very easy baby to look after, so I?m counting my blessings.

I have had no luck yet with dream feeding. He latches on beautifully, but then falls asleep and spits out a mouthful of milk when I wake him up? I will keep trying every few days to see if we get a breakthrough.

George is enjoying his play gym and is much more alert these past couple of weeks. He loves he big sister because she?s constant entertainment. She never sits still, is always making noise and is often hugging, kissing, squeezing, hitting, pulling or doing something else to him. It doesn?t seem to matter how many times I demonstrate the difference between rough and gentle, she just keeps on being rough with him. I?m getting the impression that second siblings have to grow up very tough!!

Welcome bravegirl and Rizey

Filly glad to be of assistance regarding the dress. I did retreat to my bedroom for a couple of feeds during the wedding day because George just wouldn?t feed properly with all the noise going on around him. His timing was outstanding, though, demanding to be fed during the main wedding meal! Fortunately, my Aunties were very helpful, cutting my food up and helping DD eat her dinner while I fed George and fed myself one handed. (DH was best man, so was on the top table and no bloomin? use to me at all! The only saving grace was that he wasn?t getting p**d because he wanted to stay sober to give a good speech). I think the bride?s family are a bit anti-breast-feeding, though, so heaven only knows what they thought of me feeding at the dinner table. If there were any disapprovals, they passed me by? Hope you have a good time

Right then... hot chocolate is ready, so it's my bed time! I'm so rock 'n' roll

How exciting Greensnail. Good luck, and hope you get the house you want.

And good luck to MrsAR too.

As for the sleeping... I thought we were doing a bit better, only waking up every 2 hours and being happy to latch while I lie down and go back to sleep, until DH commented this morning on how often I was up in the night. He sleeps in another room in the week so that he's fit for work but I make him join us at the weekend, so he didn't really have any idea of what goes on sleep wise at the moment.

I do have to say though, that the constant feeding all seems worth it when you go and get your DD weighed, and she's gone from just under 9lb3oz to just over 10lb3oz in 2 weeks, and the HV didn't even tell me I need to come back

However Ruth has bad nappy rash, which I think got worse after I took her swimming,and we had a very grizzly day after her first injections.

Have a good weekend everyone.

As promised - photos on my profile of DCs and my feeding dress.

George was up at 1, 3 and 5 last night. DD got up at 7.15, so I'm a bit knackered...!!

Hi all

I too have been lurking and enjoying reading about everyone's progress! Anna is eight weeks on Monday and definitely not sleeping through - whether she has her last feed at 8pm or 10.30pm, she still is up again at 2am, then 5am. Luckily DH takes her when he gets up for work so I get the chance for an hour's kip which makes all the difference.

I'm loving it all though. She's fab and funny and it's amazing watching her grow.

Still recovering from the c-section after all this time - experiencing twinges and pulls for example, although it's obviously loads better than it was. Am a bit askance at everyone doing the deed already - my scar's still pretty inflamed which makes me feel rather less than attractive ...

Have lovely weekends all

G

Just a quickie...

Welcome to newbies

csws good news about J's heart murmur

Alwayshopeful lovely pics

All good here - Sam has jabs on tuesday but is doing well at everything else. I'm hoping he sleeps well tonight as we're off to a wedding reception and staying over so grandparents are looking after the children tonight.

Hope you're all well!

AlwaysHopeful gorgeous pics. You look really beautiful in the red dress and very slim indeed! Am ...Your DD looks lovely in her flower girl get-up.

Boys still being little angels. DD less so. Really playing up. Not sure if this is delayed reaction to the arrival of the boys or teething. I spent all of last night reading my "What to expect - the toddler year" book and have tried a few new approaches today which seem to have worked. So far, no major tantrums.
Gosh - all you first-timers have all this to come of course.

Someone alluded to the fact there must be witchcraft involved in getting twins to sleep. I just wanted to add that on my father's side, our family are actually direct descendents of the Pendle Witches (of Lancashire) so that comment really made me laugh! Not sure I've ever noticed any special powers though.

Nizzy enjoy your wedding!
We seem to have run out of weddings to go to. Everyone's got hitched already. Damn - could do with a party to look forward to.

Monkey Margot - ditto on DD (although today has been lovely). She is very on edge now she's realised Daniel is her to stay and even sleeps in mummy's room and is with mummy when she goes to bed. We've been having some tussles to get her to bed and very tearful periods during the day. It's requiring a lot of patience, which I don't always summon!

mm i live very near pendle and have been winding my mum up for the past couple of years that if we had lived a couple of hundred years ago, she would have been rounded up and carted away with those pendle witches. Since she took up complementary therapy she has become spookily witch-like. No complaints from me, though. Having a mum who knows massage and reflexology is great!

I am starting to feel a bit frayed at the edges now. All this getting up in the night is draining me. The housework is piling up, nothing is clean, little is getting ironed and the garden is a jungle. DH is also applying pressure about sex. I know its important in a relationship and is very important to his perception of how i feel about him, but i cant fake it. I have no desire at all. It caused massive problems when dd was small and i dont want it to blow up like that again...

Bugger. Will post something more cheerful next time.

greensnail did you get your house?

AlwaysHopeful - the fact that I could have posted the same thing as you about DH's and house means that we are entirely normal!

Our house is the same- mind you, there wasn't that much ironing going on before Ruth was born...

On a positive note, the nappy rash has cleared up. So the HV's assertion that it would take more than sudocreme was wrong (thankfully!)

I went to my Dad's for sunday lunch and on the way back my oil light came on- cue a tentative drive to the next motorway services. Turns out DH hadn't topped the oil up like he said he would. I was so exhausted and fed up by the point I got home (having had to find someone to open the filler cap because it was so over-tightened, and all my calls home going unanswered) that I burst into tears. Did get plenty of guilty sympathy from DH though.

We're waiting in today for the second attempt of delivery of a swim nappy so that we can go on our taster session of swimming lessons. But given that the post has been and gone (and it's being delivered by royal mail), I'm not holding my breath! Thank fully it isn't until next Friday so there's time for a few more to be sent...

Yes, we got the house thanks for asking alwayshopeful. The vendors have just had their offer accepted on a chain free house as well, so hopefully everything should go through quite quickly

LaT DD1 has also figured out here that Alice gets to sleep with mummy and daddy and she's not too impressed about it. She keeps on climbing onto our bed and lying down there at bedtime, hoping she'll be allowed to stay. I feel quite sorry for her to be honest. It seems a bit mean that she's the only one who has to sleep on her own but DH would be hugely unimpressed if I let her sleep with us!

I'm feeling a bit better on the housework front as we had a big tidy up yesterday which was thoroughly exhausting. Must try to keep on top of it now. Haven't ironed anything since DD1 was born though!

Alice had her first laugh yesterday. So, so gorgeous. She was in the bath with me at the time and DD1 was pulling faces at her over the side of the bath. Can't believe she's 3 months old today - where's the time gone to?

Hope you enjoy the swimming lessons barbeasty. We did waterbabies with DD1 and we really loved it. Am really missing it now and hope to sort out some lessons for both girls once we move.

I'm going to attempt a brief catch up but massive apologies in advance as I'm bound to miss loads of stuff out....my brain is still in sleep-deprived-mush-land (yes, Mia might be making a good fist of nearly-but-not-quite sleeping through, but DS wet his bed at 4.30am last night, and DD1 is having regular nightmares around 2am st the moment, so I don't think my nights are much to be envious about!! )...

On the housework front: we've just had a massive weekend of house clearing as we had put in an offer on a new house which was unexpectedly accepted so suddenly had to get ours on the market. Cue massive panic in the filly household! We are not exactly minimalist, to say the least, so DH and I spent the entire weekend working through each room. By late last night we finally got very cold feet as we realised the extent (and cost) of the work needed on the house we wanted to buy, so pulled out...but our house is so shockingly impressively tidy our nanny nearly keeled over with when she arrived this morning .

It won't last...!

Congrats on your offer greensnail, you must be delighted :)

As far as 'doing the deed' goes, my MW gave me some excellent advice this time, along the lines of "just do it and get it over with, not because you want to or feel remotely sexy because the longer you leave it the more of an issue it will be in your head and its better for your relationship to get back on track"!!!! She then told DH the same thing! I hate to admit it, but I think she was right - even though we haven't had a repeat performance DH seems hugely reassured that our sex life hasn't disappeared forever and I'm far less worried about doing it next time....does that help at all LaT, georgee and Alwayshopeful?

I had to laugh at Alwayshopeful's 2nd child being tough comment - my DD1 is sooooo much more robust than DS (who is a bit of a wimp) and its definitely a good thing :) :)

Delighted to hear that J was given such a good report CSWS, how do you feel about it now? Fingers crossed for 1st Sept MrsAlwaysRight, please let us know how you get on with Alice

Barbeasty, your nights do sound pretty tough - are you giving a full feed each time? Every 2 hours (or more) sounds a bit like comfort snacking? (Sorry if that's unhelpful, but maybe a dummy or something might help extend the breaks between feeds?)

MM, I had a swab today before my mirena coil is fitted next week...I'm a bit nervous about it but I've heard really good things from lots of people...are you still bleeding? I'm loving the witchcraft link, by the way!!

Mampam, its great that Tilly is sleeping and you're obviously doing brilliantly with her, but it does sound as though everything else is getting a bit on top of you again...

Right DH is home and I need dinner...

Ooh I am getting house-move envy greensnail and filly. We tried to sell before the arrival of the twins but our buyer pulled out. We are going to have another bash in early September when we go to France for 2 weeks. Bit daunting as I have to leave the house spotless on the morning I fly with 3 babies...hmm.
Filly on the plus side, your house is now ready to put on the market should you choose to do so which is no bad thing!
Re. the coil, the bleeding has subsided but not yet stopped completely. DH and I "did the deed" once, much, as your MW suggests, to check all still "worked".

alwayshopeful can't believe you live in Pendle! I was born in Burnley but my parents moved to the Midlands when I was 3, so I only have hazy recollections of our time there. Very funny about your mum turning into a "witch". Bet she loves that moniker!

lol at all this talk of having sex. Dh and I have still only done it once since having ds1, and we now have a ds2 as well!!!!

You've just reminded me filly, where is Gizmo these days?

Sleep here is still elusive. J won't be put down during the day, still screams constantly rather than sleeps in the car, and after one reasonable (max 5 hours so far) stint at the start of the evening, he rarely goes more than 2 hours if that, whether he's taken a full feed or not.
Oddly he didn't sleep much at all during the day today, but remained reasonably cheerful (as long as being held/latched on), so I'm hoping that this might have a positive impact on tonight. We'll soon find out! I do have to keep reminding myself that he's the youngest on the thread though, and still doing better than his siblings did at this stage.

Re other siblings getting jealous about sleeping arrangements. We had that problem when we had ds1, and dealt with it by dh moving in to dd's room for a few months (could prob have moved out sooner, but it was working for us all as my nights were still v disturbed with ds).

V exciting re house greensnail. Care to share a link, or at least which bit of town it's in, with me? And have you got enough room for me and the dc to come and visit and re-visit some of my old haunts?!

How's it going with the Amby LaT? Ours is sitting unused beside my bed .

Ours too! TBH I'm a bit scared of it and using DH's side of the bed / my arms for Daniel to sleep in is proving to work pretty well for me.

DH has just told me that he only mentions sex to let me know that he fancies me and not to put on pressure and is not expecting anything any time soon.

Hi Ladies!

Congratulations greensnail on having your offer accepted! Although sad you'll be moving away!

Just had a call from the hospital about Alice's appointment to say that it had been booked with a general Paediatrician instead of someone from the Cardiac team so have had to change it. On the upside they had an appointment free for this Thursday so we don't have to wait as long.

Alice has also started giggling which is so cute. Have found a tickly spot under her chin which makes her laugh

Have been practising making chocolate cakes this week for DD1's birthday on Friday. Will be sick of chocolate cake before the party at this rate and I never thought I'd say that!

My house is a total bombsite. I just can't seem to keep on top of things. Need to have a massive tidy up before the weekend as have got friends and family coming all weekend.

La T dont be scared of the amby. Fergus would only sleep next to us/on us before we got it and now he really likes it. He sleeps there all night (apart from numerous feeds) sometimes he even cries til we put him in it.

He is like yours though CSWS, he does one good spell (4-6 hrs) and then is quite unsettled. last night however he only managed a max of 2 hours and he was awful all evening too. am shattered