Another unelected labour PM

[voteanythingbutBNPplease]

Gordon brown resigns.
So if LIb dems do deal with labour - ANOTHER unelected PM.

hmmm

Portblackandrat:

'How the hell can the parties that came second and third be in power with an unelected PM (again) and a leadership contest going on at the same time and a tiny majority?????'

But out of England a Lib-Con coalition would be the parties that came third and last in power - how representative is that? The London-based media just can't seem to remember they're not the only lens to see these things through.

Cartoose you mean you wouldn't like that?

NC is making a right hash of this. He should have started negotiations with both parties from the start if he wanted to play them off against each other. Flip-flopping between them does look tartish and I don't believe that he has as much power as he would like to think.

It's a bit late to start negotiating with Labour now and I don't know why he is doing it. A LibLab alliance will not have enough votes: it will only work for a few months before collapsing in another General Election where both alliance parties will be unpopular and the Tories will get in.

I never understood NC's position of talking to the party with the most votes/seats. If he was principalled, he would talk to the party nearest to his in outlook & policy irrespective of how popular they were.

I wonder if Lucas will join the coalition while the British state is still sending kids to kill kids in Afghanistan...

What's it gonna take to get labour out of No 10 - dynamite?

NC is still in talks with the DC isn't he? It's only fair that he also talks to the Labour party although he did say that the party with the most steats should run the government, I took this to mean the Conservatives. It's irrelevant whether GB goes or not, it's an attention seeking gimic. NC holds all the cards, in any case he won't be the next prime minister, he appears to be an honerable gent and I suspect he's trying to find out which party has policies that are either like those of the lib dems or will adapt some of his policies. It's only fair that he enters into discussions with Labour, it doesn't mean anything though.

We're just going to have to wait and see.

ohbugger but the west lothian question does annoy quite a lot of english people. Why doesn't england get to decide on english laws??

Agreed Patience. And Fembear, NC';s position is that every vote should count so how could he not talk first to the Tories (As winner of most seats and largest share of the votes) without compromising that mainstay of LD principles?

TBH I think that even if NC is trying to do the right thing, He will struggle to convince everyone in his party that the tories would be acceptable. Round here (LD vs Con) the LDs are all really anti tory.
THe tory leaflets even said "vote yellow, get brown" obviously no that won;t be brown it'll be.......balls/milliband/harman (urgh)

NC doesn't hold all the cards. The Tories could tell him to get lost and form a minority Govt without the LibDems.

patienceplease, no cheek from the peanut gallery

er - but they would lose their first confidence vote/Queen's speach so would be in govt for about 4 weeks (until the next election).

belle
I would have thought NC should be fully aware of which party's policies closest match his own.
It's becoming an absolute shambles.

We don't have minority government representation though.

There's nothing wrong with the conservatives. Maggie isn't running them any more

this can go three ways..

1)lib-lab deal - difficult as there are major policy clashes. also, only just a working majority - you could see even more horse trading over every vote than at the end of the Major govt

2)lib-con deal - difficult when it comes to major policy clashes again...reasonble enough majority though.

3)no deal - conservative minority govt - or possible re-run of elections...failing to strike a deal would make the Liberals very bad, as though they had put ideas above the practical good of the nation.

i liked what Lord Steel said about this - that whether you felt closer to lab or conservative as a Liberal MP depended which was the main competition for your seat.

Patience did you see the poll of LibDem members earlier where 97% supported NC in talking to the Tories first.

I think Cameron should walk away from it all and let the Rainbow Twunts muddle on for another couple of months until they wreck the country so badly that they'll never be in office ever again.

"NC';s position is that every vote should count so how could he not talk first to the Tories (As winner of most seats and largest share of the votes) without compromising that mainstay of LD principles?"

Tosh. To take the argument to its extreme - if UKIP or BNP had got most votes would he have got into bed with them?

Labour have already done that though WetAugust

I'm not sure that extreme argument works thouh Fembear. Many people disapply basic beliefs when dealing with the BNP. When talking of the mainstream parties I consider my logic holds good.

Why this talk about the 2nd and 3rd parties in the election?

Tory: 36%
Labour: 29%
Lib Dem: 23%

Soooooooo, 52% of the British public voted Lib-Lab

Not badly enough belle as about 6million voters seem to think they were doing OK

It is also in the countries best interest if the coalition parties have similar ideals and policies.

Not just stuck together with some mangy elastoplast.

Thing is that GB was even unelected by his party. TB 'formally handed over power' to him. Half the freaking LABOUR party weren't happy!

If the Labour party have a leadership election then that is fair, their new leader will be elected leader of the party who are 'in power'. It's a bit of a con though because Labour's only claim to power at the moment is that GB is the sitting PM and therefore has first dibs on forming a new Govt (which NC completely flushed down the pan...)

Yeah, how many voted for the BNP though? Doesn't mean they are right does it?