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Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

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Nymphadora · 07/05/2010 12:01

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nearlytoolate · 08/05/2010 17:07

Is it just me, or is it not vaguely surreal that people are still claiming Gordon could be PM?

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 17:18

I'm one of those people nearlytoolate. I only think Gordon should remain PM long enough to get a coalition together which will promise a referendum on electoral reform.

Once this coalition is up and running a new leader should be chosen and a referendum held.

This is what I think should happen (if Hameron refuses a referendum on electoral reform) but I see that GB is too unpopular to pull it off.

I think it is right that the Tories have been given the first chance at doing a deal with the Libdems - however it is not Brown's fault if the other two fail to conclude this deal.

Just read this comment on the LibDem Fed Exec site;

"I don?t mind if the Lib Dems work with the Tories for the good of the country, but never at the price of electoral reform. The Lib Dems should try and negotiate the best deal they can for Labour and Liberal voters with the Tories. If they are able to agree a deal which includes electoral reform then fine. If not then they should tell the Tories that they plan to take 24 hours to think about it.

At this point they should go in front of the press and simply state they are ready to work with the Conservatives in a strong coalition as long as they promise to let the people decide on electoral reform in a referendum or they will have no option to start talk with Labour on a minority government. They should say they are offering a full term parliament deal to satisfy the financial markets contingent on letting the people decide in a referendum.

The onus would then be on the Tories to explain why they can?t let the people decide what electoral system they want and why they are against having a deal which would be in the interests of stability!

For me there can be no deal without at least some electoral reform."

Interesting point of view.

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 17:19

Meant to say - really odd tweet from Labour Prolesworth!

TDiddy · 08/05/2010 17:20

nearlytoolate - the party will be sceptical of a leader getting himself a nice cabinet seat and sacrificing real electoral reform. I really think that will trump everything else. It would split the party, I am quite certain about that

Hassled · 08/05/2010 17:22

The deed is done.

New thread when we're ready for it or the loading of this one tips us over the edge

ilovemydogandMrBrown · 08/05/2010 17:24

TDiddy the triple lock would prevent NG entering into an agreement without agreement of the party. Is it 2/3rds? Anyone notice lack of comment by senior LDs? David Steel. David Owen. Wonder why....

nearlytoolate · 08/05/2010 17:26

Beachcomber its a nice idea, and might even have been a goer if the LibDems had made more electoral progress. But the way the numbers fall it just doesn't add up, plus factoring GB unpopularity and (in my view) inability to work in a collaborative fashion...

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 17:31

What do you think will happen nearlytoolate?

There doesn't seem to be a really workable solution if the Tories won't compromise on an electoral reform referendum (for which they and Murdoch will campaign hard for no change).

Hassled · 08/05/2010 17:31

Yes, the Lib Dem grandees are keeping themselves very quiet indeed. They must have the meeja pounding at their doors.

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 17:53

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TDiddy · 08/05/2010 22:31

Cheer up Lefties. labour are the medium term winners in the mess.....I think that this gives them a chance to renew faster than they had hoped. best for them to stay out of coalition and have "clean hands". Mandy must be whistling in the shower

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