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I can't tell you how much I hope the Conservatives win the election.

409 replies

AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 20:58

Just had to get that off my chest.

Please come and join me if you feel the same, and then I can stop annoying myself (and others) by hijacking the anti-Tory threads.

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eeniemeenie · 04/05/2010 14:58

God, haven't got time to read though all the postings but OP, I heartliy agree with you. I have never been so het up about an election in my life, previously I wanted Conservatives to get in but I genuinely feel DESPERATE for them to get in this time. I live in a rural community where most people are self-employed and they all feel the same.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 04/05/2010 15:13

Well said mint humbug.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 04/05/2010 15:18

link to BBC piece about Tax Credits. This should clear up any confusion caused by Gordon Brown's lies!

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 04/05/2010 15:18

Have never been overtly political for any party , but for the first time we have put up a poster (Conservative) in our front garden not because I particularly want David Cameron as PM, (tho' he will obviously be incomparably better than GB who has ben a spectular failure on all levels - particularly the economy) but because our local conservative candidate, a genuinely good person, has sufferd a campaign of lies and smears from our previously smug, now increasingly desperate, Lib Dem MP who has behaved despicably and I want her OUT!

skihorse · 04/05/2010 15:44

Proposed changes to IHT are not about people like "The Fucking Fulfords" fgs - this is just more propaganda. The Tories are raising the threshold - this means that fewer (pretty ordinary middle-class if you're SE) people will pay IHT!

AntoinetteOuradi · 04/05/2010 15:49

Snap, Mrs GofG!

Well said, eeniemeenie and minthumbug.

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AntoinetteOuradi · 04/05/2010 15:49

Ditto Alibabaa.

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sallyJayGorce · 04/05/2010 15:52

I actually think Inheritance Tax is completely immoral. Unless you are a non-dom you've paid tax on earnings already. Raising the threshold is the least that should be done. I'm not someone in a position to attract this tax anyway but nonetheless I can't find any argument to adequately defend it.

skihorse · 04/05/2010 15:55

sally I live in hope that there's a long lost auntie out there with my name...

kaylasmum · 04/05/2010 15:57

herbietea I'm not usually particularly interested in politics at all but it was my dgs social worker that mentioned about tax credits being cut when we were discussing how i would cope financially with my dgs if my dd does'nt get him back. I've no intention of reading anything that the tories have to say. I would'nt dream of voting for them.

crosswordgeek not sure if there was a bit of sarcasm in your post but i've already said that i was going by what someone had told me. There are actually a lot of people quite worried about their tax credits getting cut.

herbietea · 04/05/2010 16:09

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scaryteacher · 04/05/2010 16:15

So, Kaylasmum, how can you comment about what the Tories will or won't do if you haven't read the manifesto. I've read some of the Labour one even though I have no intention of voting for them. The information is out there on the net.

Ski - ds went to prep with the 'Fucking Fulford' boys. The father was truly unpleasant. The buzz was that he did the programme to pay the fees!

IHT is horrible because you have to pay it before probate is granted and before you can sell the house or any chattels. It is not just on the house, but any goods therein (however old and worn) and any monies left. Doesn't take much with a house to get up to £325k for one person, and then with all the other bits on top.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 04/05/2010 16:42

Never understood why inheritance tax is called that, since it is actually an estate tax. Would make more sense if people were taxed on what was left to them, so then it would make sense to distribute more widely, and would only be payable when actually received - ie when probabte granted and realisable value achieved.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 04/05/2010 17:17

Kaylasmum - you don't need to read anything the Tories have written, just take a look at that link to the BBC website that I posted about 10/15 posts up the page. Tells you everything you need to know.

Eve · 04/05/2010 18:00

Me too... fed up with being taxed to death.

Letter in our local paper.. I have 2 children, they have to share a room, my house only has 2 beds its not fair. Council should give me one.

hmmm.. you are not homeless, you are not hungry (i've seen you at school gates.. most certainly not hungry), you have clothes, your child does all school activities, neither you or you husband work...

get a flippin job and earn your house.

This country is full of people who expect things handed to them on a plate.

Benefits are great.. where needed and when needed, for carers, redundant.. etc etc... but there is such a dependency on the state for everything and such an expectation, I want it therefore I have to have it culture.

..as for saying no opportunities under Tory. I grew up under them, I went to a local state grammar school.., (before it was turned into a comp), my dad had 3 jobs to clothe and feed us...and I have

WORKED MY ARSE OF ALL MY LIFE for everything I have!!!

everyone in this country has the same opportunity.... WORK FOR IT!!!!!

...and am I fed up with all the whinging ... YES!!!!

you are responsible for your life, take ownership of it and make it happen.

Stop relying on handouts, stop making excuses

herbietea · 04/05/2010 18:05

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antoinettechigur · 04/05/2010 18:25

I can't tell you how much I fear the Tories will win the election.

Small point, if you "pay out" prescription and get "nothing" in return you've maybe forgotten to pick up your medicine

antoinettechigur · 04/05/2010 18:27

Eve is it a good thing your Dad had to work three jobs under the Tories?

expatinscotland · 04/05/2010 18:34

'Me too... fed up with being taxed to death.'

Why not become a non-dom like Zac Goldsmith and a lot of DC's cronies?

Then you wouldn't have to pay tax at all!

And you could accrue masses of wealth and leave it to your children tax free, too!

jackstarbright · 04/05/2010 18:40

Expat - remember non doms pay tax on their uk earned income - I'm sure I've already mentioned this to you. And it was the Tories who pushed Labour into getting more tax out of them.

skihorse · 04/05/2010 18:47

expatinscotland Oh, you mean like Philip Green or perhaps Richard Branson? Philip Green who not only is a labour donator but also the UK government pay HIM more tax than his companies pay in!

ahundredtimes · 04/05/2010 18:53

Thing is - truth is - not everyone does have the same opportunity.

That's the problem with the Conservative thinking for me - it says, look what I've done, you can do that too. It doesn't account for lots of perfectly normal human things such as luck or fortune of ability or birth. This is the error of thinking - they think everyone should be like them, like us, and then feel a weird lack of empathy and bitter irritation with those that aren't.

Some people doubtlessly do sponge off the state. There are lazy people everywhere. Just as some rich people fritter away their money without a thought, whilst others invest it wisely, or start companies or whatever. These people exist on every kind of social scale.

expatinscotland · 04/05/2010 18:58

Well, yes, skihorse.

I'm not a Labour voter, in case you wondered.

antoinettechigur · 04/05/2010 19:00

wel said ahundredtimes

skihorse · 04/05/2010 19:02

expat It doesn't really matter either way - I just dislike an unbalanced picture of it all. We all know a lot of MPs (and high profile donators) are corrupt bastards. I just think it's a bit off when it's all biased towards one particular party.

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