Depressed lefties sign in here...

[WilfSell]

...on the grounds that if we assume there will be a Tory govt, then the crowing triumphalism of all the Chinless Wonders and Thrusting Monetarists and Nasty Racists who'll poke in here to crow and gloat, will somehow force a cosmic rift in the time-space continuum. And it will be like 1992 all over again but the other way round.

I fear the best we can hope for is a hung parliament.

I've suggested hemlock for the Election Night supper thread...

Sympathies.

errr...you think new labour were socialists???

really????

to my mind the libdems offer far more in the way of social democracy than the new labour offering even promised (and never delivered).

never mind an absolutely unforgiveable illegal war.

in their 97 manifesto labour promised a crown review on electoral reform. fucking surprise surprise as soon as they got into power it never happened.

this election is our first chance this lifetime of electoral reform and all of you labour voters should be out there on thurs voting libdem as they are the only party that have this at the heart of their philosophy. incidentally they are the only truly democratic party: one member, one vote for policy, no block voting by unions or back pocketing by big business.

our democracy hasn't looked as healthy as this for generations and you're all weeping into your cups? ffs.

Signing in - in readiness for pity party. Am thinking about possibility of holding RL such event. Though might be a bit grim.

here here with all of you ... predicting gloom and more gloom....

have you all seen this Cameron sings The Common People ... at least something to smile at before Thursday when it may become reality {grey cloud}

I'm going to have to fortify myself with gin in order to vote as I live in a marginal seat and a vote to Labour is a vote to about 1% of the total. Will have to pin my own hand down to do the unhonourable thing and tactically vote [sheesh - wishes for forgiveness in advance]

Sophable - we're here in case there isn't a hung parliament on Friday.

A hung parliament and I will be drinking champagne for breakfast.

Actually, I might be handing out drinks to strangers in the street.

but animula there will be!!! it is the likeliest outcome by far...hope lives at the bottom of pandora's box.

One can never scoff at this too many times

0h god i really hope the 'I'm alright Jack' dirty rotten tories don't get in. I will have to stay up all night to see what happens and I will be sobbing if the bastards get in.

I will also look a right mess while teaching antenatal classes on Friday morning

Not at al impressed with NC and less so after his cosying up to DC. He reminds me way too much of Tony Blair.

good thread. must admit i am feeling sicker as the days go by.

the ONLY possible silver lining is that they get in and bugger stuff up so monumentally that we can finally consign right wing government to the bin. (something, note labour good have done, had they instigated PR)

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only thing that has cheers me up lately is that there are quite a lot of like minded people on mumsnet who are appreciative of some of the good thing and the triumphs this government has had.

Don't think Clegg is very democratic. Why would he say that he will go with the Tories when the electorate hasn't even voted? Not very democratic in my mind.

Look on the bright side, if the Tories DO get in, maybe Labour can revert to being ...well ...... Labour!

At a guess..NC has spotted his opportunity to grab some power and is going after it with a steely eyed determinism. Principles and values don't come into it.

Hence why he reminds me of TB.

Election night supper , I think I may have to eat the grass growing in my back garden topped with delicious crunchy mud in preparation for all the cuts that that will be effecting me now in and in the future.

Sadly, I feel I have been forced into a situation where I am actually saying to myself that those who have been throwing stones [yep, the right wing mumsnetters] to actually suffer the most if their mini lord David gets in. It's all made me very sad lately and today especially, as I actually thought people cared more about the well being of society these days not just themselves and thier own greed.

How wrong I have been.

Sophable, I think you're wrong in thinking the LibDems are a decent substitute for a betrayed socialism.

If you'll allow me to set the War aside for a moment.

Do you really believe that Labour has denied us socially progressive change, if it has been affordable? I don't. Even including the cost of the Iraq War.

The best thing, economically, is for as many people to be working as possible. This needs a public sector which - bottom line - manufactures employment.

Your man will cut all that.

They are libertarian progressives; Labour are liberal progressives: vast difference.

Bugger, I forgot to sign in. And share this pathetic piece of explanatory memory:

My very first big political memory is waking up the day after Thatcher got in (I was 11) and feeling - Christ, just utterly fucking hopeless; and understanding, with a child's perspective but also with some perspicacity, that there is an AWFUL lot you can fuck up in 4 years. Realistically, this lot would be in for 8. Fucking HELL there is a huge amount of people you can utterly, utterly destroy in 8 years.

signs in sadly

DH and I don't agree on politics. I shall be scuppering his attempts to vote on Thurs. Shall have to do an Amy Pond or something.

My head tells me that in the ridiculously skewed Tory constituency I am in that I should tactically vote Lib Dem but no way can I do it. Betrayal would scream out of every pore.

onebat, we must be the same age: my first political memory is that of my mum crying on the night that Thatcher got in

Oh I'd definitely tactically vote, taffetacat, if I were in a Tory constituency. I really would.

Here too, Molesworth & Wombat - I was 9 (and had discovered feminism before politics) - remember my mum explaining that just because Margaret Thatcher was a woman, that did not make it a Good Thing that she had won!
(DH however moved back to the UK with his UK/US family from the States a little later, on the grounds that Thatcher was better than Reagan . . .)

Yes Molesworth we are. My dad voted Tory (I knew, but he refused to tell me), and it was the moment I looked at him and realised he was far less than he should have been.

I really had tears in my eyes when I woke up that day. And to be honest, I feel quite tearful now, and when the Guardian came out for the LD's I felt like I'd been dumped - a genuine feeling of desolation.

I understand that they feel that they are the supersize, national equivalent of a tactical vote. But I still think they're cunts mistaken.

Molesworth and onebat..think I a few years younger than you.

I don't remember Thatcher getting in (I was 4) but distinctly remember what it was like growing up with the Tories in power.

I was too young to vote in the 1992 election by a couple of months and remember feeling absolutely devastated by the result.