When & how will Burnham’s honeymoon come to an end?

[Theblueyonder]

Burnham’s leadership has been relatively free of drama, so far, and certainly when compared to his hapless predecessor.

What do we think will represent Burnham’s first real test? The budget, or something else?

I am indeed familiar with it. I’m surprised you are in such a short time. Quick learner, I guess.

As my posts amply demonstrate, one hopes.

I’m not saying you need to read the book, I’m saying if you’re interested in politics, you’d probably find it interesting. I really did.

I don’t like party political point scoring, name calling or mud slinging because I don’t think it leads to good policy. I don’t think that is an especially party political stance. I certainly didn’t like Jeremy Corbyn’s style of opposition, for example. And I have already praised David Cameron’s way of disagreeing on macroeconomics but seeking consensus on, for example, education rather than opposing for opposition’s sake.

When I talk about consensus politics, I definitely don’t mean everyone following the same philosophy. It’s about different parties finding common ground on big, long-term issues so the country isn't constantly hitting the reset button every time power changes hands. From what I understand, it works well in places like Switzerland and Denmark, because it means policy survives the election cycles.

But of course we can agree to disagree and I appreciate you giving such a detailed, thought- through perspective.

It's funny how those who seem obsessed with Starmer who is no longer a politician, and Rayner because she is a successful woman, spend more time looking for opportunities to attack people who comment on an actual politician who is giving the official opposition leader a run for their money.
I agree, some posters particularly on this thread, don't seem to have any self awareness and seem more intent on attacking posters than debating issues in good faith. That is more indicative of their lack of awareness of behavioural norms.

Not to me as you are asking.

I don’t think so given the public have worked in a way to remove them. They didn’t get that treating the public with contempt would lead to a loss of their jobs.

Ik you or other Labour supporters might not recognise it but thankfully enough did react.

Thats the worst kind of far right extremist misinformation that speaks to the fears of those less well informed.
I utterly disagree with the premise that it is what this government is aiming for.
Hyperbole.

I’m not quite sure what point you’re making. Do you genuinely think Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves were more divisive in their rhetoric and approach than Nigel Farage is in his? Fair enough, if so, but I think a lot of people right across the political spectrum would disagree, including many Conservatives, and indeed Kemi Badenoch who - much to her credit -has come out very strongly in her condemnation of Reform’s divisive rhetoric.

"Not exactly a fan of Russell Brand"

His rape and sexual assualt trial has started today

Badenoch’s conference speech was excellent about racism. I also liked the clear line she drew about not entertaining propping up Reform. That will undoubtedly have drawn a few politically homeless ex Tories back to the party.

If it’s been happening for years how can it be the fault of this government?

Russell Brand has also been frequently praised by Russian state media, because his views are so aligned with the narratives pushed by the Kremlin. No one with any respect for our democracy would be sharing his bile.

Wow. I am aghast that anyone on a site aimed mostly at women would be promoting Brand and his disinformation.

Same. It’s really shocking.

No one has said anything about the trial, apart from that it is happening. We are not not stupid.

Nobody said anything was the Russians’ fault, just that Brand seems to be on the side of the Russians.

Oh bless, assuming I live in a middle class area.
FYI. I really don't. I just don't buy into the hate filled rhetoric coming from an undercurrent of scared white men who like to beat up women and their foreign backers.

Oooooookaaaaay. 😏