When & how will Burnham’s honeymoon come to an end?

[Theblueyonder]

Burnham’s leadership has been relatively free of drama, so far, and certainly when compared to his hapless predecessor.

What do we think will represent Burnham’s first real test? The budget, or something else?

I expect a lot of them are bots.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-figures-see-social-media-engagement-drop-after-strikes-on-russia-data-centres-410517/

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-support-for-rejoining-the-european-union

The honeymoon never started for me. I don't like how he came to power or much of what he's doing.

I do, however, want PMs who are allowed to finish their term of office. I'm trying to remain open-minded.

Yes older voters were more likely to vote leave.
But that is not what she said.
See her earlier comments.
Actually as others have said it was quite nasty.

Please you are embarrassing yourself!

I’m not remotely embarrassed. Why would I be?

Yep! Course he did, real people pleaser Burnham😳

The vote was all age ranges, more likely to vote leave if older.
How is more than 50% of that 52% likely to be unable to leave their chair.

Plus he’s made a big deal about Brexit, after saying in Makerfield he knew it would cause division and as a democratic vote it should be kept, but moving on from the by-election to Labour conference it’s all Brexit again. And after that a -3 drop.

Do you think it’s the Brexit thing though and saying different things or the triple lock pension idea that has caused the 3% drop, or a combination of both.

Most of Farage's support is still amongst older generations, though @caringcarer

As of June 2026, the political party that 18-to-24-year-olds in Great Britain would be most likely to vote for was the Green Party, at 39 percent. Reform was the most popular party for the four oldest age groups, with 33.7 percent of 60-to-69-year-olds intending to vote for them, along with 33.2 percent of those aged 70 or over.

It is only one poll that has shown the drop though so far. Let's see what the rest are like this week. Although the Reform drop to third place is very welcome!

Yes he will say whatever to stay relevant, however the electorate will get wise to him quickly, as shown with the -3 drop.

You’re certainly making a meal out of one poll. Maybe best not to count your chickens?

Edited for typo.

Oh sorry we can only discuss what you think is appropriate? What a ridiculous comment! No not making a meal of it just stating facts! Upset has it?

No, it’s just that you keep going on about one poll, I’m just suggesting that it might make sense to see whether it’s a long-term trend or just a one off?

Not a big deal!

I think the honeymoon will be over when the budget is announced. At the moment, he reminds me of Boris Johnson- have your cake and eat it too! His preferences will then be revealed and it will be impossible to please everyone.

I have quoted -3 poll ‘once’ in all my posts this evening. So how have I kept going on? No need to suggest anything to me, thank you.

I wasn’t meaning just you, I was referring to all of you. Anyway, I’ll be watching with interest to see how the polls go the next few days.

Who cares?
Until 'Airmiles' Andy has a General Election and gets a mandate, nothing is going to happen.
His "honeymoon" might be annulled sooner than he thinks as his association with Man Utd is looking "interesting" - https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16198453/Labour-politicians-received-freebies-Manchester-City-United-Arab-Emirates.html

https://metro.co.uk/2026/10/10/mps-500k-freebies-uae-spark-conflict-concerns-29697397/

www.aol.co.uk/articles/labour-slammed-over-300-000-215000000.html

I hate mudslinging from any political party. I didn’t like Angela Raynor talking about Tory scum, and I was glad when she apologised. It absolutely is the opposition’s job to work constructively with the ruling government in the national interest, and in less divisive snd febrile times, consensus building across party lines was much more common. I do hope with Reform on the wane, we can find our way back to that kind of politics.

What honeymoon? He slithered into no 10, making one of his own party step down- a new father- didn't want s general election despite making a big noise about how there should always be a general election if the pm changes without a vote, when the conservatives were in.

Pissing away our money on number 10 north, moaning blokes can't get a beer at the football and he's going to change that. Droning on about brexit and getting back into Europe. There is no appetite for spending more of our money on think tanks and votes. Our borders are already wide open anyway. This needs sorting out.

He needs to deal with defence, NHS, and jobs, cost of living, letting people out of prison, the big picture- before worrying about His place on the world stage in Europe. We don't need millions of houses being built to house people who are economic migrants with no money or prospects. We are not at heart a socialist culture and no one is going to be poorer but work harder to pay for the keep of cocklodgers here in the UK for that very purpose.

Bloody hell there are some nasty posters out today on this thread. I wouldn't want to come across them out and about.

@BIossomtoes I hope you are ok and the nastiness towards you hasn't upset you. It's almost as though there is a clique on here out to get posters rather than debating the issues in good faith.

What a cesspit of nastiness this is. I thought pile ons were considered bad form on mumsnet.

Sorry to disagree but it is not the opposition’s job to work with the ruling government, as stated in my earlier post.https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/official-opposition

But surely two things can be true? Yes, I agree:

Historically and constitutionally, the opposition is understood to have three main roles: ‘to oppose the government, to criticize it and to seek to replace it’.

We have needed a strong opposition party in this country for some time.

But equally, we need the opposition parties to work with the party in power when it's definitely in the national interest.