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FFS Clacton

205 replies

SomaTaim · Today 08:42

You had a chance to put a stop to the dodgy little lying, pathetic twat and you blew it.

Now we have to listen to his bollocks and hate inducing garbage for longer.

9,000 people voted for a bin rather than this swindler.

He can’t even bring himself to come to your town to accept the vote. He is laughing at you.

Real “man of the people’ - why can’t you see that he doesn’t give a crap about you or your problems?

Oh well at least the investigation into the £5mill can resume.

What a fucking waste of time and money. Disgusting. Disappointed in you guys. 🙈

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Dollymylove · Today 10:50

EasternStandard · Today 10:39

We had very high asylum claims pre Brexit. And EU countries are struggling with the same issue regardless of no Brexit.

Hows Andy Pandy getting on with his stop the boats pledge?
I'll wait......

Palomiino · Today 10:51

But the thing is, I don’t see evidence of swathes of people being allowed to stay here just because . My daughter has friends from India. Educated friends with degrees, who have to go back to India in a years time when their visa runs out, not because they don’t have a job (one of them has two jobs) but because they don’t have the right kind of job.

Whatever problems our country has will not be fixed by Reform. If you think Labour is doing a poor job right now, you’ve seen nothing yet.

BerryTwister · Today 10:51

These discussions are always the same on MN. The bottom line is this:-

Large number of members of UK population “I’m sick of seeing all these immigrants coming in on boats, no wonder I can’t get a house or a doctors appointment. That Farage bloke is the only politician who seems to care about it”

Middle class population “you’re stupid, you don’t know anything, you don’t understand anything, you’re racist and thick”

Large number of members of UK population “screw you, how dare you tell me I’m stupid, you don’t see what I see. I’m definitely voting Reform now”

And that is how our next government will be Reform.

EasternStandard · Today 10:51

Dollymylove · Today 10:50

Hows Andy Pandy getting on with his stop the boats pledge?
I'll wait......

I think he’s overseeing a rise, how it pans out we’ll see. But those mega dinghies images are striking enough to cause him issues if they continue.

UrbanFan · Today 10:53

Clacton I hope that you are pleased with yourselves. Utter morons voting for Farage instead of sending a clear message. Just think what that £250k that has been wasted on this ridiculous by election could have been spent on instead.

This was your chance and you blew it.

What has he personally done for any of you at all? Just what benefits have you seen having him as your MP? Name one thing.

The man couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the count. He's laughing his vile head off at you all.

Palomiino · Today 10:54

BerryTwister · Today 10:51

These discussions are always the same on MN. The bottom line is this:-

Large number of members of UK population “I’m sick of seeing all these immigrants coming in on boats, no wonder I can’t get a house or a doctors appointment. That Farage bloke is the only politician who seems to care about it”

Middle class population “you’re stupid, you don’t know anything, you don’t understand anything, you’re racist and thick”

Large number of members of UK population “screw you, how dare you tell me I’m stupid, you don’t see what I see. I’m definitely voting Reform now”

And that is how our next government will be Reform.

That is a laughable and incredibly simplistic assessment of what is going on.

Populist politics is a bug that doesn’t seem to be going away.

Dollymylove · Today 10:56

UrbanFan · Today 10:53

Clacton I hope that you are pleased with yourselves. Utter morons voting for Farage instead of sending a clear message. Just think what that £250k that has been wasted on this ridiculous by election could have been spent on instead.

This was your chance and you blew it.

What has he personally done for any of you at all? Just what benefits have you seen having him as your MP? Name one thing.

The man couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the count. He's laughing his vile head off at you all.

While we are on the subject of money, how much is it costing us for Andys Westminster North malarkey? Just cos his missus doesnt want to live in London. So thats more millions swilling down the drain.
Who is it who is actually running the country? Missus Burnham?

Palomiino · Today 10:56

The reform councillors in my area got kicked out because they are lazy and don’t actually do any work. They are nothing more than a cardboard cut out.

Nuthatch26 · Today 10:56

UrbanFan · Today 10:53

Clacton I hope that you are pleased with yourselves. Utter morons voting for Farage instead of sending a clear message. Just think what that £250k that has been wasted on this ridiculous by election could have been spent on instead.

This was your chance and you blew it.

What has he personally done for any of you at all? Just what benefits have you seen having him as your MP? Name one thing.

The man couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the count. He's laughing his vile head off at you all.

You think they would have benefited from voting for a comedian dressed as a bin?

Who did you vote for at the last election? Perhaps some will think you're also a "moron".

BerryTwister · Today 10:57

Palomiino · Today 10:54

That is a laughable and incredibly simplistic assessment of what is going on.

Populist politics is a bug that doesn’t seem to be going away.

@Palomiino my job involves interacting with members of the public from all walks of life all day, and I would say my post pretty much sums it up. Farage supporters feel they are dismissed as stupid, and that makes them all the more determined to vote for him.

Anyahyacinth · Today 10:58

BerryTwister · Today 10:43

@Anyahyacinth people see what they see, and they react. You dismiss them as stupid and “wrong” at your peril.

Yep we are all in peril from hate ...I agree desperate dangerous times...uneducated people managed to see they were being manipulated in the past...I can only hope that happens again ...though maybe they need the economic shocks ...£5 million pounds pay offs doesn't seem to have enlightened anyone, neither European Parliament pension etc..

noblegiraffe · Today 10:58

GeneralPeter · Today 10:47

Mainly because of pressure from Reform.

Which other parties could they have voted for? Not the Tories, Labour or any major one.

(Obligatory MN disclaimer: I’m not a Farage fan. But this is how he shapes politics and he’s been incredibly successful at it. People saying the voters are stupid because he doesn’t spend time in the constituency or whatever are totally missing the point).

I’ve been trying to think what would have happened if Farage had died in that plane crash. Would things have played out the same way?

He has been a figurehead and a lightning rod but the same conversations about immigration are being had in countries around the world without Farage. It’s a global issue and I think other people would have stepped up to take his spot. Like Rupert Lowe is trying to.

EasternStandard · Today 10:59

Palomiino · Today 10:54

That is a laughable and incredibly simplistic assessment of what is going on.

Populist politics is a bug that doesn’t seem to be going away.

It is a shift in politics in many western countries but it’s not populist, not really any more than something else voters want.

BerryTwister · Today 11:00

noblegiraffe · Today 10:58

I’ve been trying to think what would have happened if Farage had died in that plane crash. Would things have played out the same way?

He has been a figurehead and a lightning rod but the same conversations about immigration are being had in countries around the world without Farage. It’s a global issue and I think other people would have stepped up to take his spot. Like Rupert Lowe is trying to.

@noblegiraffe that reminds me of a book I read about a parallel universe in which Hitler wasn’t born. The person in his place was much worse.

Bulgebracket · Today 11:00

EasternStandard · Today 10:51

I think he’s overseeing a rise, how it pans out we’ll see. But those mega dinghies images are striking enough to cause him issues if they continue.

Yep, especially when he faces a legal climb down on his plans to distribute the economic migrants to non-Labour voting areas.

GeneralPeter · Today 11:01

UrbanFan · Today 10:53

Clacton I hope that you are pleased with yourselves. Utter morons voting for Farage instead of sending a clear message. Just think what that £250k that has been wasted on this ridiculous by election could have been spent on instead.

This was your chance and you blew it.

What has he personally done for any of you at all? Just what benefits have you seen having him as your MP? Name one thing.

The man couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the count. He's laughing his vile head off at you all.

Farage has been the most consequential British politician in the past 20 years.

The people who voted for him in Clacton did send a message.

They’ve also kept him in position.

You might disagree with the message (so, mostly, do I). But calling your political opponents morons when they’ve just beaten you again should lead to a moment of reflection.

Viviennemary · Today 11:05

Farage as PM isn't the answer. But perhaps the possibility of it might at last wake up the other parties into dealing with concerns.

noblegiraffe · Today 11:06

BerryTwister · Today 11:00

@noblegiraffe that reminds me of a book I read about a parallel universe in which Hitler wasn’t born. The person in his place was much worse.

I absolutely disagree with Farage and his politics and his grifting and his being influenced by foreign interests, however he has no time for Tommy Robinson. He could have gone that way and he didn’t.

So yeah there are worse things out there.

Palomiino · Today 11:07

BerryTwister · Today 10:57

@Palomiino my job involves interacting with members of the public from all walks of life all day, and I would say my post pretty much sums it up. Farage supporters feel they are dismissed as stupid, and that makes them all the more determined to vote for him.

Even if what you say is true, maybe it’s time people grew thicker skins and did something like read a manifesto before they decide what to vote.

My argument is that without Farage, Reform wouldn’t be getting votes at all. He’s a populist figure, much like Trump. He is immune to the terrible things he does. Other politicians, not so much.

Like I said, Reform councillors get kicked out when people realise that they don’t actually do any work.

OriginalSkang · Today 11:08

Tell me you've never been to Clacton without telling me you've never been to Clacton...!

You were ridiculous to think this wouldn't be the outcome.

BIossomtoes · Today 11:14

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · Today 10:12

@hedgeknight ok, he won, so what now? Will the ears of the left open? Or will the waggy finger scoldings continue?

The investigation has reopened. Farage is no better off than he was on 7 July. By the way, you said you were the “left” - do you usually have short term memory issues?

sittingonabeach · Today 11:14

Nuthatch26 · Today 10:56

You think they would have benefited from voting for a comedian dressed as a bin?

Who did you vote for at the last election? Perhaps some will think you're also a "moron".

How have they benefitted from voting for Farage? Where is he? Where has he been for them as their MP?

Binface said he would take the role sensibly if actually voted in. And I believe him more than I believe Farage.

EasternStandard · Today 11:18

sittingonabeach · Today 11:14

How have they benefitted from voting for Farage? Where is he? Where has he been for them as their MP?

Binface said he would take the role sensibly if actually voted in. And I believe him more than I believe Farage.

It’s up to voters there though. Same for any by-election.

ERthree · Today 11:23

UrbanFan · Today 10:53

Clacton I hope that you are pleased with yourselves. Utter morons voting for Farage instead of sending a clear message. Just think what that £250k that has been wasted on this ridiculous by election could have been spent on instead.

This was your chance and you blew it.

What has he personally done for any of you at all? Just what benefits have you seen having him as your MP? Name one thing.

The man couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the count. He's laughing his vile head off at you all.

Why the name calling? Another member of the intolerant, ranting, name calling, be kind left are we?

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · Today 11:23

@ITMA2000 @UrbanFan Would you have voted for a man dresses as a bin and been happy about being treated as a Global joke for your 'choice' of MP?