Ann Widdecombe thread part 3

[LuckyHazelFox]

Please proceed

I think it's a mistake to assume that conspiracy theorists or people making other outlandish claims fall into neat 'left' or 'right' wing boxes- I worked with a woman who believed most conspiracy theories, her views were all over the place politically and at best I would describe her as 'anti-establishment'. For e.g. one of her opinions was that Iran and Donald Trump were actually co-operating as part of the war with the deep state.

Her basic starting position was always that the state was lying to us, the reasons for that were often whatever fitted most neatly in her head.

I don't work with her now, but I could easily see that she would believe anything that suggested a fit-up or that the police had the wrong man.

This was about your crass & graceless remarks!
How that reflects how poor Ann lost her life is beyond me!
Disgusting attitude from you!

I think you are probably right actually.

That's interesting. Probably nonsense but interesting.

If a shadowy someone wanted Ann out of the picture then a push down the dormer stairs would’ve sufficed - look at how desperate people were to believe she had fallen and died of old age and frailty. If it was a reform murder to shore up Nigel’s dodgy money for ‘security’ then a local yokel could’ve been set up far more easily than some sad sack from Rotherham. I wouldn’t be surprised if some dodgy fuck online gave him her address and encouraged him to do it but I doubt very much it was an evil mastermind. People want conspiracies because it makes senseless things make sense.

A very valid point.
Lets stick to the facts that a man has been charged by police with horrifically killing Ann Widdecombe.

The motive has not yet been established but it has been stated that this was a targeted attack meaning it was either personal or political.

The details of the case including the motive are unlikely to be known before his trial in June 2027.

They were the fact from his bail hearing in court, as told by the prosecution lawyer!

@1dayatatime Well said.

I think the only odd thing is that Anne’s killer had no social media. He is supposed to have been unemployed and spent a lot of time alone, his car was barely used and’had weeds growing around it’ his neighbours said.
He was politically motivated and had newspaper clippings of Nigel Farage on his wall. What guy his age has not got any presence on line and why did they scrub it?

No one can scrub their social media. If the laptop,pc is intact the information is there.

How do do you know he hasn't any SM presence?

Who is "they"?

I think it’s sad and horrific enough without conspiracy theories on top. Ik why they thrive but it’s not very nice to see.

Agree and some of the language and tone being used here is disturbing. I wish people would keep it to themselves. If we wanted to go looking for it on FB or wherever we would.

I really didn't realise how weird people are.

Me neither. Even from behind a computer screen on an anonymous forum I'd be too embarrassed to write out some of the utter complete bollocks some people are posting.

21 Times, Sickening ,I don't get why the Trial is next June !.😥Ann was Shrewd. She basically has caught her own killer. He clearly wasn't banking on CCTV in the house.

Remind me - how often does traffic get backed up on the M1 around Sheffield and Nottingham during school runs and the rush hour? Here's a clue - it doesn't unless there is an accident. It may get busy, but it is nowhere near jammed solid.

There is a massive backlog in the courts still, which is perhaps why it will take so long.

Happy to derail this thread to f up the conspiracy theories with Angel Delight enema discourse if needed

Go for it 👍

But you wouldn’t know about it.

What on earth has happened on here, a woman was brutally murdered and some people are focused on making up random conspiracy theory shite.

He’s unlikely to have been posting all over Facebook and instagram, far more likely to have spent time on the ‘dark web’.

Well, precisely. The BBC timeline suggests she was killed around 12.30 - he was on the motor way during the ‘school rush hour’ and not on the winding backroads until late morning.

There is a massive backlog in the courts still, which is perhaps why it will take so long.

And the police probably still have enquiries to carry out. It takes time to go through phone and internet records. Then all that information has to be made available to the accused's legal team so they can plan the defence.

I went through a period of ripping apart batshit conspiracy theories on MN threads using known facts but got accused of being an apologist for whichever party or person was involved etc.

Unfortunately we seem to be in a period where feelings matter more than facts and that if you don't agree with everything I say then you clearly support the extreme of the opposing side. The middle ground is dying.