Anne Widdicombe Suspicious Death

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Suspicious death, suspected murder. Think there is a press conference soon.

I don't that see how it is worse to murder an elderly woman than a young woman

It was Kemi referring to Ann being elderly more than once.

I agree. I think it's very important that people from across the political spectrum should express their horror at the violent death of any political figure. We don't have to pretend that we agreed with them in order to condemn the violence.

It’s like a parallel universe on here. Maybe she wasn’t murdered, eh yeah as the police announce that when there is a chance she just fell. They can’t tell. Or maybe she tried to commit suicide and took something and fell over.

And these hard of understanding people can vote and sit on a jury, ffs.

I’m sorry, but it does.

There is something even more abhorrent about attacking those with increased vulnerability. Children, disabled people, the elderly.

My very first response was “who the fuck murders a 78 year old woman,” and I mentioned her age and sex for a reason.

Also agree - very good post.

Did you read that? It’s exactly what it says,

My mum is a bit older that Ann Widdicombe and isn’t as strong as me. I’d be able to fight off an attacker in theory more than she would.

Here at work, someone said that Patsy Kensit and Felicity Kendal did it as revenge for being eliminated from Strictly. Unfortunately these jokes will go around.

Eh? It is if you're a woman up against a man.

A vulnerable victim is also an aggravating factor in sentencing for crime so the law also sees it as worse. Attacks on people who can’t fight back - children, the elderly, pregnant women, mums with small children, disabled people - are particularly sickening

Another example of a man murdering a woman. Another example of a politically active woman being murdered.
Even without the human tragedy there is much there for us to be concerned about.

Only if you spread them.

People really need to desist from speculation. Nobody has been charged yet, but this can prejudice any potential trial. And I for one want this perpetrator brought to justice.

The point hitting home with me is that whatever the circumstances, a woman has suffered a violent and traumatic death and the chief suspect is a male. Another woman dead, likely at the hands of a man. And this means another tragic statistic of the nature read out in the House of Commons every spring.

I suspect that in most other circumstances MN would be horrified.

Yes. We X-posted. That's exactly the salient point, and it's one of which MN would normally sit up and take notice.

I think what we need is less emotive speculation and more waiting while the police do their job.

I didn't agree with anything Ann Widdecombe stood for except her opposition to foxhunting, but at least let her rest in peace and hope that her killer is caught.

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It does not say she had a fall! Or that they are investigating if she had a fall.

It says murder inquiry.

Why can't people just accept it? The police believe she was murdered and it sounds like they have a suspect though it could have just been someone seen in the vicinity. We'll find out.

But they do not think she fell.

Well you have to have some critical thinking which is why you might be struggling.

When a person is vulnerable then murdering them is seen as more unacceptable due to the fact they have less ability to keep themselves safe. Children are inherently more vulnerable to abuse because they don’t have the strength and/or mental capabilities to try and get themselves out of something. Similarly an elderly person or a disabled person might have less gross motor function, less musculature, less speed and agility and may also have less executive functioning simply through the passing of time dulling mental sharpness/beginning of age related neurological conditions.

'I can't bear literally anyone in the Labour party - but I'd never wish this on any of them'.

Point made to balance all the comments starting with ' I loathed/hated her politics - but.....' like it's some weird position of rightousness.

A woman is dead & right now that is all that matters....
Jeeeeez - what are we coming too?

Yes exactly the poster is saying they are investigating both. They are not

Oh I’m so shocked and upset to read this. No doubt she’d have given me what for, for how I’ve lead my own life and values, but I respected her for hers. She reminded me of a few ‘old school’ teachers and colleagues I’ve known and thought fondly of. This is awful.

I believe that MN is horrified.

We are mostly women on here and every time a woman gets attacked, we feel a sense of anger, sadness, fear etc.

But I agree with everything else you’ve said.

No idea, I'm not the word police

Agree