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Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

278 replies

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:10

Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

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5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:46

There's no way this scumbag will be deported back to his country of origin. The British state will do everything it can to keep him. They are globalists first and foremost.

The trick is to fool people into thinking they want to deport these lowlifes. And if that doesn't work, they'll try to curtail free speech.

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 09:52

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:46

There's no way this scumbag will be deported back to his country of origin. The British state will do everything it can to keep him. They are globalists first and foremost.

The trick is to fool people into thinking they want to deport these lowlifes. And if that doesn't work, they'll try to curtail free speech.

That’s utter nonsense. What’s the benefit to the “British state” to Ahmed being here? Zero. His security is costing a fortune and there’s a lot of political capital in succeeding in deporting him. It’s win/win.

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:57

dwordle · 05/07/2026 09:14

Which is why he should stay behind bars, why subject Pakistani girls to rape and murder.

The man is repulsive and every mother and father wants a world where children are free to grow up without having their lives soiled by such horrible people.

I will never support the death penalty or violence and I don't think prisons should be dangerous places. But they certainly should.be places of order and routine with rules. This man would of gone to prison and spent his time protected by gangs....so he's not reformed just festered with vile opinions of girls.

Prisons should be strict and violence free, those that can be reformed should be but people like that are just plain and simple dangerous.

His time on this earth should remain behind bars, subjected to daily 6am wake up calls, exercise, cleaning and gardening. Church on Sundays and no television at all. Reading from books and listening to classical music.

People might think I'm old fashioned but I'm of the opinion that prison in its current form are causing more harm. Lock someone away for a spell in the current regime and often they come out worse. So I'm extremely worried that this man is now free.

Yes, he's free to go back to his own community where no doubt he'll be welcomed with open arms by his clansmen and female relatives.

Maybe he could go back to his job as Oldham Council's Welfare Rights officer? I'm sure he still has many friends in the local council, business community etc.

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:01

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:57

Yes, he's free to go back to his own community where no doubt he'll be welcomed with open arms by his clansmen and female relatives.

Maybe he could go back to his job as Oldham Council's Welfare Rights officer? I'm sure he still has many friends in the local council, business community etc.

He isn’t. He’s prohibited from going anywhere near the towns where he committed his crimes and is under heavy security.

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:07

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 09:52

That’s utter nonsense. What’s the benefit to the “British state” to Ahmed being here? Zero. His security is costing a fortune and there’s a lot of political capital in succeeding in deporting him. It’s win/win.

Yes, it would totally be a win/win.

But I doubt it will happen. There's too many vested interests. Politicians who see ethnic minorities as their voter base. Lawyers who will launch appeal after appeal. Media and political commentators who see this scumbag and his ilk as the victims of oppression.

dwordle · 05/07/2026 10:10

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:01

He isn’t. He’s prohibited from going anywhere near the towns where he committed his crimes and is under heavy security.

Great so he could be living near another community, I wonder how they would feel.

He's dangerous pure and simple, and in the interests of safeguarding children he should be locked up still..

I'm sure we'd all be happy to find him living in our community. He shouldn't be free.

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:11

I haven’t seen a single commentator defending Ahmed or viewing him as victim of oppression. The view seems unanimous across all the media I’ve read and heard that the sooner he’s on a plane the better.

TemperanceWest · 05/07/2026 10:18

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:07

Yes, it would totally be a win/win.

But I doubt it will happen. There's too many vested interests. Politicians who see ethnic minorities as their voter base. Lawyers who will launch appeal after appeal. Media and political commentators who see this scumbag and his ilk as the victims of oppression.

As blossomtoes said, not a single lawyer, politician or commentator has defended him or said he's a victim of oppression. Not sure where you are getting this idea from. I think we are all united, left and right, in wanting shot of the scumbag if possible.

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:20

TemperanceWest · 05/07/2026 10:18

As blossomtoes said, not a single lawyer, politician or commentator has defended him or said he's a victim of oppression. Not sure where you are getting this idea from. I think we are all united, left and right, in wanting shot of the scumbag if possible.

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I think we will find if there is an attempt to deport him that the lawyers will fight his deportation by launching appeals.

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:21

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:20

I think we will find if there is an attempt to deport him that the lawyers will fight his deportation by launching appeals.

Who will pay those lawyers?

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:25

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:01

He isn’t. He’s prohibited from going anywhere near the towns where he committed his crimes and is under heavy security.

He's banned from entering certain parts of Greater Manchester including Rochdale. But he was employed by Oldham Council, so he probably has plenty of connections beyond Rochdale.

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:28

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 10:21

Who will pay those lawyers?

Probably they're paid through legal aid / state provision.

Well, we shall see. I very much hope I'm wrong and that he is deported back to Pakistan.

TemperanceWest · 05/07/2026 10:35

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:46

There's no way this scumbag will be deported back to his country of origin. The British state will do everything it can to keep him. They are globalists first and foremost.

The trick is to fool people into thinking they want to deport these lowlifes. And if that doesn't work, they'll try to curtail free speech.

The British state will do everything it can to keep him

This is just nonsense. Why on earth would it?

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 11:16

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:28

Probably they're paid through legal aid / state provision.

Well, we shall see. I very much hope I'm wrong and that he is deported back to Pakistan.

The government won’t fund legal aid to defend a case against itself.

hedgeknight · 05/07/2026 12:09

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 10:20

I think we will find if there is an attempt to deport him that the lawyers will fight his deportation by launching appeals.

Everyone is entitled to the right of legal representation,

If you want to take that away, you will find yourself on a very slippery slope.

EasternStandard · 05/07/2026 12:21

The idea of blocking is incorrect

No, the government cannot arbitrarily stop or block you from using legal aid if you meet all the legal criteria

sashh · 05/07/2026 12:28

JoyousOpalLemur · 03/07/2026 11:51

Most Pakistani grooming gangs ideologically believe young white non-Muslim girls are 'slags' who deserve to be raped.

It's extremely rare that they would target Muslim girls, and even more unlikely in Pakistan where they would face the death penalty.

But I agree that he's still probably too much of a risk to others - let's give him the justice he would have got in Pakistan.

It might be rare but the monster we are discussing was also found guilty of raping an Asian girl.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 05/07/2026 12:33

sashh · 05/07/2026 12:28

It might be rare but the monster we are discussing was also found guilty of raping an Asian girl.

She was Sikh I think. Girls from other Asian communities were also targeted because they knew the shame and secrecy would mean they were less likely to report it. The White girls targeted were unprotected by the officers of the state.

Imdunfer · 05/07/2026 12:51

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 09:46

There's no way this scumbag will be deported back to his country of origin. The British state will do everything it can to keep him. They are globalists first and foremost.

The trick is to fool people into thinking they want to deport these lowlifes. And if that doesn't work, they'll try to curtail free speech.

I don't think there is the slightest difference between what and why Starmer/Burnham are saying about deporting this man and what Farage says. It's about votes and popular support, not protecting women.

TemperanceWest · 05/07/2026 12:59

EasternStandard · 05/07/2026 12:21

The idea of blocking is incorrect

No, the government cannot arbitrarily stop or block you from using legal aid if you meet all the legal criteria

Does he own anything, like property, I wonder? Because he will be means tested.

FictionalCharacter · 05/07/2026 13:14

LondonKara · 03/07/2026 07:41

Bullshit. That's something they say so they don't lose face (as they see it) in the community. Of course they will target any girl they can get away with.

I don't support removal of full citizenship, I think at that point a individual has become "our" problem. Different if they are in the process of seeking asylum.or citizenship.

The victims have said it too. They targeted white and Sikh girls.

EasternStandard · 05/07/2026 13:21

Imdunfer · 05/07/2026 12:51

I don't think there is the slightest difference between what and why Starmer/Burnham are saying about deporting this man and what Farage says. It's about votes and popular support, not protecting women.

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Labour will be motivated as it somewhat lessens the glare over rape gangs. The hurdle will be Pakistan saying no way.

MaggieBsBoat · 05/07/2026 14:44

The point is, if he is deemed a danger he should still be in prison. The other stuff is all smoke and mirrors. He shouldn’t be out.

Also he isn’t a foreign criminal, he’s a good old fashioned home grown one. Where would we deport him to? Put him in a bus back to wormwood scrubs or wherever.

BIossomtoes · 05/07/2026 15:33

MaggieBsBoat · 05/07/2026 14:44

The point is, if he is deemed a danger he should still be in prison. The other stuff is all smoke and mirrors. He shouldn’t be out.

Also he isn’t a foreign criminal, he’s a good old fashioned home grown one. Where would we deport him to? Put him in a bus back to wormwood scrubs or wherever.

There’s no means in our legal system for keeping someone in prison beyond the end of their sentence. Hopefully one of the results of this case will be judges thinking hard about handing down concurrent sentences. If the sentences hadn’t been concurrent this guy would have been approaching 90 by the time he was released.

5MinuteArgument · 05/07/2026 16:25

EasternStandard · 05/07/2026 13:21

Labour will be motivated as it somewhat lessens the glare over rape gangs. The hurdle will be Pakistan saying no way.

Yes, and of course Labour or any other party wouldn't use the leverage they have (millions in aid to Pakistan, thousands of visas issued) to persuade the Pakistani government to accept him.

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