Starmer's resigned

[Sadcafe]

So the admittedly boring but truly decent PM has announced his resignation and the egotistical, pompous Burnham will doubtless become PM. God help the country

Didn’t Burnham serve as a shadow minister under Corbyn? If so, then I think we can say with confidence that he is further to the left than he would have us believe. Let’s be honest, the Labour lefties know that the voting public would not vote in a government lead by Burnham, but they’re getting him in the back door. Let’s just hope him and his side kick Raynor (who obviously will have been promised the deputy position) doesn’t bankrupt us/does too much damage before the next GE when we get him out.

Actually in a very short space of time under Kier Starmer, Labour began to make some positive changes - which rarely get reported properly eg:

• the renters’ rights reforms - all good giving tenants (and their pets!) more protection.
• NHS waiting lists down in just 2 years
• Rightfully Supporting Ukraine
• Kept us out of joining in warfare in Middle East
• Some impressive standing up to Trump and vastly improved international presence
• school breakfast clubs
• free childcare rollout
• significant important workers’ rights reform
• 500,000 more kids receiving free school meals
• highest defence spending since Cold War
• Steel and some railways under public ownership
• youth EU travel scheme

Plus closer ties to Europe and some signs economy slowly progressing despite Trump’s Middle East interventions.

Yes, some hiccups, but overall, solid policies and a genuine commitment to helping those who genuinely need it. Perhaps not great at media friendly sound bites, but a willingness to listen, consult and adapt when appropriate. Anyway the public and the Labour Party seemed to turn on a principled statesman who gets the job done. More fool us.

I’d like to say Thank you to Sir Keir and his family. In my opinion he did a far better job than the last seven ( plus) prime minsters. I’m happy for his family that they get to start a new chapter.

It’s not the media. He’s going because even Labour MPs know it’s him.

Agree. I’m furious with Burnham and the rest of the lot pushing Starmer out. More chaos. Markets won’t be happy. In 6 months time and there’s no change, then what? Another PM? Absolutely sick of the lot of these MPs. We’re now in the strange position of our likely next PM has been elected by one constituency.

Bloody fantastic. Shame Burnham isyet another Labour MP in the pockets of Zionist Friends of Labour. I cannot imagine we will see much change from him.

I think he was a decent enough guy.

But a terrible PM, lacking in the charisma we sadly need these days in an era of personality politics (not saying this as a positive btw...)

Probably a great manager - but a terrible leader. Too many U-turns, unforced errors really early on in the premiership.

Was always going to happen.

It all feels so manipulated. The "Labour Isn't Working" threads seemed to begin within minutes of them winning the sodding election. Mumsnet threads in general, political ones especially, have a weird edge to them that I can't quite put my finger on (in among the generally unpleasant atmosphere and high numbers of posters just trying to be as nasty as possible) and I've found myself visiting less and less because it feels like an increasing number of users are not here in good faith, regardless of HQ's reassurances.

Agree with the PP who said it feels increasingly like bot farms, foreign interference and social media algorithms are the ones really running the county -- it has nothing to do with how competent a leader Starmer may or may not have been. Personal opinion of Starmer aside, this morning's announcement is both depressing and deeply worrying.

Agree. Not a huge fan of Starmer, but he is much more preferable than Streeting or Burnham. The party used him to get in number 10 so that they could bide their time and get a far left candidate in, because no sane member of the public would have voted either of them in via a GE. And to those saying he’s not to the left need to do their research. Corbyn would never have had him as shadow minister had he not been, and look what happened to him. He was handed his arse to him ten fold at that GE.

Not again! 😂

I’m just bloody fed up of the revolving door of prime ministers and wish we could have one that would bloody do the full term!

The problem was he had no clear vision, or if he did he didn’t tell anyone. I think his greatest quality was his steadiness which allowed Labour to get itself in order and win an election. Everything has its season, I think it is time for something else.

Assume that's a typo and you mean Raynor.

Yes, every one of those tweets should be published over and over until she comes along and says why this time is different.

The truth is this awful woman-and she is awful is so many ways from personal hygiene to trying to evade her bills- feels it's different this time because it suits her dreadful personal ambitions.

She can't say that of course but it would be fun to watch her squirming, aggressive, shouty incoherent and indefensible justifications

So now we have no possible political stability in the UK.

Tories are chaos.
Labour are now giving into chaos.
Lib Dems / Greens don't have enough support or firm enough policies.
Reform are fascists.

I'm scared for our future TBH.

Don’t blame a few posters on mumsnet. It’s not like we / they run the electorate.

Look to Starmer’s failings. Part of them is being totally oblivious as to what his failings are.

What a mess Labour is making of ghis, an utter catastrophic shambles. Burnham is not the answer, and if they think he is, then they are showing how much they simply do not understand the issues the party has caused with their politics.

yes Starmer was shit as a pm. No doubt about it, but he was still the best they had, and the issues are their policies not the leader.

i honestly can’t beleive how they lurch from one bad decision to the next.

Do they ever eat any words that show them up/are unfavourable towards them?

It’d have been interesting if you had opened up voting for your post @Sadcafe to gauge how mumsnetters felt about this. I know the main Labour politicians were manipulating Starmer out but many people online and in phone ins were saying they didn’t want a change of leadership. SoiIs this what a majority of Labour supporters want? Or is this just Labour leadership?

To me it feels as if the country is almost run by social media, things happen so fast, it's more like a reality TV show or a Netflix boxset, people want whatever they want and they want it immediately, and next week they want something else

I don't think he's been a great PM at all - however not so sure a new leader will be the change needed either.

I don't think we'll get a GE till nearer end of parliment term - and it's unclear what any GE would actually bring - as polls seem to be all over the place.

The right wing media have manipulated this as usual. They will do it again with Andy Burnham.

General election please

And you don’t think ALL politicians are totally oblivious to their failings? All of them. Many many are more entitled and arrogant than Starmer. Look at the Green MPs now.

I am really sorry to hear this. A decent steady man .

Burnham has been a prominent MP in the past. Hardly new to Westminster.

Yes it's all very depressing. Starmer was the worst communicator for the time. But at the heart of it, the manipulation of these forces are winning. Plus the constant pro Reform bots on Mumsnet are showing how deep their pockets