Starmer's resigned

[Sadcafe]

So the admittedly boring but truly decent PM has announced his resignation and the egotistical, pompous Burnham will doubtless become PM. God help the country

No we won’t

How eloquent. Socrates was right.

Ok sounds great. Enjoy your evening.

the same will hapoen to AB as Starmer then there’ll be an election and then what? Starmer was doing ok just stoically getting on with the job. I think he genuinely wanted the best for the country and his party should have been loyal. Then AB could have swept in for the next election .

This doesn't sound very nice. You gloat and you goad. But it is the same thing all the time. If that is what was the most important thing to you, you can just think mission accomplished and forget about it. People are discussing a wide range of related topics - we do not all have the same angle on this.

Labour Party is full of back stabbers.

Yes And? I don’t need the aggro. You might be upset. I’m not. Did you hear the Labour MPs cheer at Burnham’s sign in? My posts are really not relevant. You have MPs in his party who are delighted.

No, I don't doubt for a minute you've never wondered, because I can see you already know what the point of Labour Friends of Israel is. And I know this because youre labelling somebody querying why it even exists (which is a legitimate question, as affiliation groups do not exist for other areas of conflict around the world), as 'paranoid'. Whats your view on the genocide Israel has been committing for the past 2 and a half years? And why no MPs who are part of Labour Friends of Israel are willing to call a genocide happening in real time, on our screens what it actually is. Despite the UN, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Medicine Sans Frontiers and many others all coming out and confirming that it is, in fact, a genocide?

Absolutely agree. Someone on another thread said we're getting like Italy used to be, when we all laughed at them for constantly switching one limelight-hogging narcissist for another.

Starmer's Mr Sensible, he was doing a pretty good job but isn't exciting. Also see John Major and Theresa May. Might as well choose our PMs via Britain's Got Talent, one winner each year.

Oh please. Point out where I'm showing bias. Me wondering why we don't have Labour groups affiliated to other countries? Give over. I rather think YOUR bias is showing, that you think it's OK for just one other nation state to have an influence group among our Parliamentary MPs. A country that is currently committing genocide no less. Tell me why that's acceptable. Tell me like I'm 5 years old.

You should go over to the Conflict in the Middle East board if you want to discuss Gaza. Plenty of like minded people over there. Maybe you're already there under a different name I don't know. If you didn't know where to post anti Israel stuff - you're welcome!

This thread is about UK politics.

Only narcissists have charisma. I think a boring working PM is better than charismatic leader.

FYI.

Socialist Campaign Group: Represents the left-wing faction of Labour MPs, advocating for traditional socialist policies.
Tribune Group: Represents the "soft left" of the parliamentary party, which includes various frontbench and backbench MPs.
Labour Movement for Europe: Advocates for the UK's closer relationship and integration with the European Union.
Labour Friends of Israel: Works to promote a strong relationship between the British Labour Party and Israel.
Labour Friends of Palestine and the Middle East: Lobbies for peace, human rights, and the recognition of Palestinian statehood.
Labour Muslim Network: A representative and campaigning organisation for British Muslims within the Labour Party.

Also

Fabian Society: The oldest socialist think tank in the UK, influencing policy and political thinking.
LGBT+ Labour: Campaigns for LGBTQ+ rights both within the party and nationwide.
SERA - Labour's Environment Campaign: The only environmental organisation officially affiliated to the Labour Party.
Socialist Health Association: Campaigns for the protection and advancement of the NHS and public health.
Labour Women's Network: Dedicated to training, supporting, and empowering Labour women.
Society of Labour Lawyers: An affiliated think tank that advises on legal and constitutional policy.
Socialist Educational Association: Campaigns for socialist principles in the UK education system.

Don't ask rhetorical questions before checking your assumptions.

Boring plank? Is he supposed to entertain you?

Let’s bring Boris Johnson back to calm you down. The truth seeker and truth speaker. And that bus with 350 million a week or maybe you prefer Nigel Farage?

Not weird at all but if you don't know, then you don't know! Probably lucky not to know!

And yours is incredibly rude.

This is laughable. You honestly expect me to believe you truly don’t understand why there might be a group focused on Israel but not, say, Iceland? Come on. Pull the other one.

I haven’t shown any bias. But feel free to quote me if you think I have. Calling out prejudice is not bias. It’s a call for you to check your bias.

" truly decent PM" - the British public across the policitical spectrum agrees. 😂

Weird response. 😂

I'll post on whatever forum I fancy thanks. And how UK politicians respond to International issues and what shapes their opinion on these issues is absolutely part of UK politics and is taken into consideration by lots of voters, nyself included. I see that you dodged the question about what you think about the current genocide going on though.

I'll post on whatever forum I fancy thanks. And how UK politicians respond to International issues and what shapes their opinion on these issues is absolutely part of UK politics and is taken into consideration by lots of voters, nyself included. I see that you dodged the question about what you think about the current genocide going on though.

But there is no longer a red wall. It was pretty much pulled down at the last local elections, when traditional Labour constituencies were demolished. Might have been a thing previously, but the UK is no longer a two party country.

Thanks for proving my point by listing those, very helpful. You have showed there is no other affiliated grouping which advocates purely on behalf of a another sovereign country. There is 1 group advocating for Europe, which is about Brexit. And 1 advocating for Palestinians, who currently don't have a country but would quite like that to change. No, just the 1 country who has its own group then. The country currently committing a genocide.

Come on, don't be shy. Explain what it is that if you know, you know. Don't be giving it all the nudge, nudge, wink, winks, otherwise you look like you're just making it up.