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Healey Resignation

231 replies

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 12:39

John Healey resigns! Another nail in SKS's coffin, or the only way to force a showdown?

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PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:07

NoWordForFluffy · 11/06/2026 21:06

Carping from the sidelines but learning no lessons.

It’s as though they had NO plan…oh wait….

NoWordForFluffy · 11/06/2026 21:10

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:07

It’s as though they had NO plan…oh wait….

Ahhhh, but they're the grown ups, they don't need a plan. 🙄

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:11

Which one of the Cabinet has ever had a role running a business?

RedgooseberryBeehive · 11/06/2026 21:11

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 20:58

That really isn’t true. Both my parents had private pensions. I had one too. I was never told it wasn’t open to me as a women!

I started work in the 70s and there was no company pension scheme open or offered to me. Solicitors office. I would say that it wasn’t something that was “a thing” for many ordinary, private sector, workers back then. Just not a topic of conversation. I was well into my thirties before I had a workplace pension available. I dare say those more in the know would have taken their own out but certainly my employer wouldn’t have contributed! Oh and I paid 33% income tax if I remember right.

BruceGrobbelaar · 11/06/2026 21:11

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nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:13

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I hope she'll go. Ideally together with Bridgit

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:13

I was in the private sector and started working late 70’s.

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:13

In my opinion, Reeves is not worth saving. She has not been a good Chancellor.

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BruceGrobbelaar · 11/06/2026 21:15

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BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:15

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 11/06/2026 20:48

But you are not working now?

So are you talking about tax that you used to pay?

No I’m talking about the tax I continue to pay on my bloated private pension. ☺️

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:15

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:13

I hope she'll go. Ideally together with Bridgit

Who the hell would replace her?

If Burnham gets in he is going to be awful. Bowing to the unions. The vote between Reform and Restore is splitting otherwise I think Reform would win.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/06/2026 21:16

Do we think other ministers will go?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 11/06/2026 21:17

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:15

No I’m talking about the tax I continue to pay on my bloated private pension. ☺️

Oh yes, of course!

BruceGrobbelaar · 11/06/2026 21:17

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RedgooseberryBeehive · 11/06/2026 21:18

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:13

I was in the private sector and started working late 70’s.

I’m not disagreeing that it wasn’t available to some, but it certainly was not to me and many others. I just had a run of the mill secretarial job. There was no company scheme I could join. I worked there 10 years. Lots of lost years.

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:18

It's excruciating. Thrilling for the politics junkie I am, but horrifying in our shared living experience.

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JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/06/2026 21:18

So I think those who might resign are those who might have a chance of serving in another govt.

Yvette Cooper?

RedgooseberryBeehive · 11/06/2026 21:19

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:15

No I’m talking about the tax I continue to pay on my bloated private pension. ☺️

I think people forget that pensioners pay tax!

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:20

RedgooseberryBeehive · 11/06/2026 21:18

I’m not disagreeing that it wasn’t available to some, but it certainly was not to me and many others. I just had a run of the mill secretarial job. There was no company scheme I could join. I worked there 10 years. Lots of lost years.

It was the same for me. I was over 30 before I could contribute to a pension. I bought extra years when I could afford it and I’m very glad now that I could afford to do it.

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:23

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:15

Who the hell would replace her?

If Burnham gets in he is going to be awful. Bowing to the unions. The vote between Reform and Restore is splitting otherwise I think Reform would win.

Look, it really doesn't matter who will replace her. Labour will not produce a competent Chancellor.

Andy will become PM, he will appoint someone, doesn't matter, they will raise taxes again, much higher, and borrow more, much more. Gilts will rise again, UK interest will spike, it's 111bn now, will be whatever. Investors and wealthy will be spooked and even more will leave, productive population will retire/reduce hours means total tax take will reduce in real terms. The next government will be far right.

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:25

The only ones I would welcome back are the ones the PLP dislikes most. I'd keep Shabana Mahmood. Tough, and ready to be very unpopular. Perfect Home Secretary. SKS as Foreign Secretary. No nomination for Chancellor as there's no decent candidate. PM... Kemi? A coalition. I think circumstances justify it.

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:27

But please, someone make Miliband walk the plank into very deep, very cold water.

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RedgooseberryBeehive · 11/06/2026 21:27

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:20

It was the same for me. I was over 30 before I could contribute to a pension. I bought extra years when I could afford it and I’m very glad now that I could afford to do it.

My experience mirrors yours. I was also in my thirties when I joined a workplace pension. First time any workplace offered me one. I couldn’t afford to make additional contributions (dare I say because my mortgage interest rate was so high which makes people roll their eyes!). I think perhaps professional women may have been offered to join more frequently, but as I say, I just did a job.

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:30

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:25

The only ones I would welcome back are the ones the PLP dislikes most. I'd keep Shabana Mahmood. Tough, and ready to be very unpopular. Perfect Home Secretary. SKS as Foreign Secretary. No nomination for Chancellor as there's no decent candidate. PM... Kemi? A coalition. I think circumstances justify it.

I'm with you on this. I'd also like Rishi back, as Chancellor. Far from perfect, but so much better than the current lot.

ETA: Andy will remove Shabana. Angela is campaigning against Shabana's ILR changes.

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:32

I would not have had enough money to put down a deposit on my tiny flat had I not worked overseas and put money into a pension for 18 months. It was only $4,500. That money (that I couldn't have saved in the UK) changed everything.

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