Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Politics

Healey Resignation

52 replies

Papyrophile · Today 12:39

John Healey resigns! Another nail in SKS's coffin, or the only way to force a showdown?

OP posts:
DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Today 12:40

🤦🏻‍♀️

Another day, another fuck up by our illustrious government.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 12:41

Crikey good for him! I didn't think he would.

Bet the perennially self-promoting Carns is next in line 🙄

Twiglets1 · Today 12:47

Interesting - I wonder if he will defect to another party - and if so, which one??

Dbank · Today 12:47

KS's performance in PMQs must have been the last straw.

Papyrophile · Today 12:49

Huge crisis for the Government IMO. I don't see how Carns could accept the job, as he's squarely behind the need for additional defence spending. Heads have to roll in the Treasury.

OP posts:
Papyrophile · Today 12:55

Coming on top of this morning's argument between the Metropolitan Police, who want to use Palantir to deal with the backlog of admin, and are being pressured not to by the London Mayor's office, it really makes the house of cards look shaky.

Carns has just said the Defence Investment Plan is unworkable. Which is being interpreted as an implied resignation statement.

OP posts:
Papyrophile · Today 12:55

Patrick Maguire's sources are telling him the Government will fall by next Friday.

OP posts:
notimagain · Today 12:56

There have been rumours for a few days now that the Chief of the Defence Staff might have been prepared to resign over this issue ( cynics would suggest that would be unlikely given pensions and potential for a seat in the HoL)

I don't think I heard or read anywhere anyone suggesting it would be the SoS that would go.......

Twiglets1 · Today 12:57

It's pretty incontestable surely that we need to spend more on defence in these troubled times.

It was a mistake by Starmer to let it get to this with Healey resigning.

Dissimilitude · Today 12:58

This government is absolutely unable to make hard decisions around spending despite an enormous majority. It’s untenable. Burnham will be in the same position.

Tax more. Borrow more. The lions share spent on entitlements. Defense underfunding is just another manifestation of carrying an enormous debt interest and welfare burden, plus we can’t have the NHS deprived of anything, can we, especially since it has demonstrated a complete inability to raise its own productivity.

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Today 12:59

They will have riots in the streets for more reasons than immigration at this rate.

Twiglets1 · Today 13:00

Dissimilitude · Today 12:58

This government is absolutely unable to make hard decisions around spending despite an enormous majority. It’s untenable. Burnham will be in the same position.

Tax more. Borrow more. The lions share spent on entitlements. Defense underfunding is just another manifestation of carrying an enormous debt interest and welfare burden, plus we can’t have the NHS deprived of anything, can we, especially since it has demonstrated a complete inability to raise its own productivity.

Agree Burham would be in the same position - possibly even in a worse position as he is more to the left than Starmer.

This is a gift to more right wing parties, at an inconvenient time with the Makerfield by election coming up.

Goblinteasmade · Today 13:00

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Today 12:59

They will have riots in the streets for more reasons than immigration at this rate.

I agree with you, sadly.

Papyrophile · Today 13:06

The promised defence spends have been halved in nine months. From £28bn originally, currently £13.5bn proposed. And over a longer time scale.

OP posts:
Iamacatslave · Today 13:10

Like rats deserting a sinking ship.

EasternStandard · Today 13:12

Labour are sinking

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 13:37

Papyrophile · Today 12:55

Coming on top of this morning's argument between the Metropolitan Police, who want to use Palantir to deal with the backlog of admin, and are being pressured not to by the London Mayor's office, it really makes the house of cards look shaky.

Carns has just said the Defence Investment Plan is unworkable. Which is being interpreted as an implied resignation statement.

Huh, I thought he'd be right in there.

Twiglets1 · Today 13:44

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 13:37

Huh, I thought he'd be right in there.

Surprising to find some politicians may have principles after all.

Papyrophile · Today 13:44

Carns has effectively ruled himself out. it's being discussed on Times Radio now. Dan Jervis (Security Minister) is apparently looking like the front-runner.

OP posts:
Goblinteasmade · Today 13:45

Defence or Welfare.

Take your pick.

Papyrophile · Today 13:46

The Tories offered to take a cross-party approach to defence yesterday, and SKS flipped it off.

Defence, not welfare IMO.

OP posts:
ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Today 13:47

Twiglets1 · Today 12:47

Interesting - I wonder if he will defect to another party - and if so, which one??

Good point.

Goblinteasmade · Today 13:47

Papyrophile · Today 13:46

The Tories offered to take a cross-party approach to defence yesterday, and SKS flipped it off.

Defence, not welfare IMO.

Same - no question.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Today 13:48

Goblinteasmade · Today 13:45

Defence or Welfare.

Take your pick.

With no defence there will no welfare.

They are putting the cart before the horse, as usual.

Goblinteasmade · Today 13:52

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Today 13:48

With no defence there will no welfare.

They are putting the cart before the horse, as usual.

Yes.

Matters could get properly tasty.

Parts of the UK have an increasingly tinderbox feeling.