So who are you rootin' for at Makersfield?

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Just wondering who everyone hopes will win??

I'm hoping for a Burnham win but as long as it's not Kenyon I can live with it.

Still no explanation...it's almost like you don't have one.
And no, asking someone about a boyfriend makes no assumption about their gender or sexuality.
It is neither insulting nor personal. It's simply a way of saying I don't believe you could defend T and K and seeing as you haven't, I am now more sure of that than ever.

Andy Burnham is more popular than with Badenoch or Farage. That tells you something which if he is clever he can use. The voters want to like him. They are already placing some hope in him which in politics is not nothing. In fact I would say it is quality that is missing in Starmer, Badenoch and Farage who make for depressing politics

As I said, I am not an AB admirer, I find him to be on the smarmy side. But you do have a point. He is personable to many in a way that Starmer and Badenoch aren't. Farage has charisma for certain groups of people, though, sadly. But AB also has an air of hopefulness too, which none of the other three have. And he hs a sense of humour, which comes across well on his SM. That shouldn't matter, but it does.

So have you. Doesn’t stop you though, does it?

What? That’s a bit silly as insults go.

Yes it was. Typical.

Yep. Juvenile.

I don't think he will. Agree he has a big ego, but he is not stupid.

Well we’re likely to find out what that means in power. As for a GE we’ll see what pressure brings.

What pressure? A few posts on MN?

Is this a quote from a different thread?

Yes, feel free to report it if you believe it falls foul of the guidelines.

Thats debatable imo, but let's see what happens. History tells us that as soon as a party starts changing leader, its all over.

Thank you for noticing! Burnham is an interesting politician compared to his competitors. It does give him an edge. What he does with it will be interesting if he wins.

There was a lot criticism about Starmer in his lack of vision or hope when he was elected. People give large majorities because they want serious change but also, they want hope. Starmer has missed the mark there. But then does Badenoch and Farage, because their visions of the UK are not great either. They may think it is realistic, or sound policy to be like that. But the most effective politicians combine the two messages.

It wasn’t in 2022. Two changes and no GE for nearly two years.

Odd way to debate.
I'm not into reporting posts, more impact when they are left to stand imo.

For the love of god, what do I have to do to get an explanation?!
I see the sense of outrage is high on this thread.
While the real insult has been allowed to slide by most.

AB has to win a leadership bid first. He is not universally popular amongst the membership. Many further to the left dislike him rather for not being left wing enough. Many centrists dislike him for being too left wing.

Oh and it went so well for the tories didn't it. Crack on.

There are rumours and leaks that there will be a coronation to avoid a contest.

Highly unlikely as Starmer has said he would stand if there was a challenge to his leadership.

I suppose if AB offers Streeting a bribe, that could happen. But I don't think it will. The membership would be furious.

Eta: and of course BIossomtoes is correct.

If he wins I’d be surprised if Labour don’t do it.