Would you vote for Angela Rayner?

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Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

Yes, no doubt it is all based on low borrowing rates and ever increasing property prices and rents being high because it is a trendy city for students and young professionals, all bollocks really when the bond market kicks off, I would need to see a lot more vision from him to consider him PM material.

Given that this Labour government have another couple of years in power, and they are even more of a clueless shower than the previous lot, whether Starmer hangs on (I doubt that) or is ousted by Streeting, Burnham or indeed Our Ange or whoever, we are fucked. And when election time comes around again, and the result is decided by the “anyone but Labour” and “anyone but the Tories” votes we will find ourselves well and truly doubly fucked. I hope that I am wrong, but the future ain’t looking grand for my kids and grandkids.

How are we doubly fucked with Reform, or a coalition with them as a major party, Farage is surely the most experienced politician in parliament with more real world business experience than most of them?

Farage voted against increasing punishments for crimes against women such as up-skirting and spiking drinks. Are you happy to see women's rights being eroded???

What real world business experience has he got?

Absolutely not. She’s a joke and as others have said, the thought of her representing the UK is too awful to contemplate.

None.

you're joking? right?

I don't think he's a very experienced politician either. He rode the EU gravy train for decades without doing any work and nowadays he's never in Parliament or his constituency. He'd rather stand on cliff tops shouting at boats and take bribes from dodgy billionaires.

Yep, it is almost like he is the embodiment of all things wrong with the system. But that doesn’t equate to him being able to sort that system out. Rather the opposite.
We can all criticise and find fault and game the flaws. What nobody seems to be able to do is come up with workable solutions, least of all Nigel Farage.

Farage is surely the most experienced politician in parliament with more real world business experience than most of them?

In Parliament, possibly. I mean David Cameron, Rushi Sunak and Theresa May have actually been PM, but that's not really important. And nobody's ever really heard of Ken Clarke, Ed Miliband, Jeremy Corbyn, David Blunkett, Peter Kyle, Liam Byrne, or Margaret Beckett.

But I think we're overlooking someone much more qualified here. Even Farage's superior experience is far outstripped by that of his Deputy, Paul Nuttall!! Is there ANYTHING that man hasn't done? 😇Awesome !!!

And by the way, there's not going to be going to be a GE - why would there be? The Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 removed all of the mechanisms to trigger an election through Parliament and made it impossible for anyone but the sitting PM to call one. And it would be a really pissed off PM who voted their own party out of power.

Farage is definitely the most experienced at not showing up as a politician.

No, obviously not joking, and his vote share says that large numbers of people also understand this?

Seems to work quite well for him? Maybe 2Tier could try not showing up, see if his numbers improve (Oh, wait a minute, he really won"t be showing up soon!)

Yes it works well for Farage, he pockets the money,

Not so much for the people he supposedly represents.

Your childish namecalling doesn't help you trying to make your point.

Stockbroker in Germany and city of London off the top of my head, and he relates to people on a basic level, the Labour top team don"t , it really is that simple. King of the North is good for a bit banter with the public in Manchester but he doesn"t connect the way Farage does across the nation.

Nothing childish about it, very large numbers of the public are sick of seeing and hearing KS, the childish part is pretending it isn"t so and it will all go away.

Farage won't make it better. He doesn't like to be challenged. Doing a disappearance act at the moment.

£5m donation?

Farage talks so that the man and woman in the street understand. There's no attempt to intellectualise. He just sounds straightforward and practical, although it is all weasel words, so just the same as the rest. He'll never get my vote, but he is bloody plausible.

He only connects with the stupid, superficial and small minded....sadly there are a lot of them :(

It's similar to Boris Johnson's cheerful chappie 'relatable' persona and look how well that turned out.

Democracy is tough. Similar story with Brexit, if only everyone agreed with those who want to bend the knee to the EU everything would be great.

All the smart people know that FOM is designed to suppress wages and boost lending, especially on property ,as people move from less developed economies to the more developed debt based economies, amazing what you can learn in a Wetherspoons isn"t it?

Who do you consider "relatable" in the Labour top team, and no it isn"t a trick question.

Why is relatable more important that smart, competent, honest etc?
It's the X Factor-isation of politics. The whole 'would you go for a pint with this person ' thing that I don't get.
Especially as it's usually fake and manufactured. Eton educated millionaires who couldn't give a toss about the electorate.

Because you talk about things that matter to a large number of voters i.e mass immigration, not "diversity", or "Digital ID" or calling people with genuine concerns "racist" or "far right", the relatable politician sees the voters side of the issue and talks about it, the political dunce just makes statements like a robot until people are clamouring for them to go.