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Would you vote for Angela Rayner?

583 replies

WildEnergySupplier · 14/05/2026 06:42

Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

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Pacificsunshine · 14/05/2026 15:49

Nope

Itchthescratch · 14/05/2026 15:51

Never.

nicepotoftea · 14/05/2026 15:52

Justusethebloodyphone · 14/05/2026 13:41

The back benchers blew it. Forcing all the U turns so there was no coherent direction and mired the party in failed policies.

There aren’t smart enough to realise they were taking the party back out of contention.

I believe Kier Starmer was actually the best person to lead the country at this point and a lot of his policies made sense.

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Agree. Apparently many of them lack the humility to realise that they owe their place in Parliament to protest votes and the first past the post electoral system.

ThisDandyWriter · 14/05/2026 15:57

GingerBeverage · 14/05/2026 13:43

Rosie Duffield also left school at 16. If she hadn’t been hounded out of Labour, I wonder what the response here would be to the suggestion of her leading?

she did an apprenticeship and went back to college.

she appears to understand basic grammar and hasn’t been caught tax dodging so…….

ThisDandyWriter · 14/05/2026 16:05

upinaballoon · 14/05/2026 15:30

No, not knowing the difference between averse and adverse is not a question of accent. I couldn't care less about her speaking English with a particular, detectable accent. If she is as able as some people think she is she would have the grace to admit that she didn't have the best of educations and she would quietly ask one of her advisors for a bit of help with grammar and vocabulary. I cannot give you an exact example but she has been speaking in public for years now, and she doesn't always use the correct words, because she's ignorant of them.

I have an example earlier of what she said in an interview with Beth rugby ‘I thought I was doing it proper’.
i dint care about accents, but I do want the person ultimately responsible for setting education policy to understand and speak basic grammar.

Boomer55 · 14/05/2026 16:27

WildEnergySupplier · 14/05/2026 06:42

Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

No. Never.

Nanny0gg · 14/05/2026 16:41

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 14/05/2026 11:14

Uncouth?
Lordie, haven't heard that word for a while.
Is this because she said the word scum once?
Heaven forbid she's not lady like enough.
Show a bit more decorum, Angela! 😂

There are absolutely no statesmen or women in UK politics right now. And that absolutely includes Angela.

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:43

SunnyAfternoonToday · 14/05/2026 15:04

She thought she'd get away with it. I'd like to know where she has suddenly found the £40K she owed in tax. Is it earned income or who gave it to her?

That’s a bit personal isn’t it? I am sure she gained by lawful means.

Nanny0gg · 14/05/2026 16:43

KeepPumping · 14/05/2026 11:21

Good on the world stage? The US president more or less called him a plonker? He isn"t sorting out the main concern that masses of people have in the UK though, mass immigration, immigration is only down because they are tweaking visa rules to try and head off Reform, but they are globalists at heart and can"t wait to bend the knee to the EU once more, if he won another term it would be back to business as usual. FOM is designed to suppress wages in developed countries and expose a whole new batch of people to debt taking, similar to how the tobacco companies spread into Asia when the European/US markets were saturated.

Trump calling you a plonker is quite the compliment really

SunnyAfternoonToday · 14/05/2026 16:51

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:43

That’s a bit personal isn’t it? I am sure she gained by lawful means.

The timing of finding the money owed is interesting and if she's willing to stand for the leadership I don't think it's 'personal' to know where £40K came from, whether down the back of the sofa or as a 'gift' from somebody. Farage is being investigated for the £5 million he was gifted.

double0seven · 14/05/2026 16:59

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MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 17:00

@SunnyAfternoonToday, she has most probably set up a payment plan. Poor thing!

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2026 17:05

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Unacceptable and unnecessary.

MurkyMo · 14/05/2026 17:11

BySharpSnake · 14/05/2026 13:43

Because I made the mistake of looking at his twitter account.

I'm none the wiser.

SpottyAlpaca · 14/05/2026 17:12

No. And as someone who grew up on a council estate & went to a bog-standard comp, I wish I could say otherwise.

Rayner has the most inspiring backstory of any current MP. She left school at 15 with no qualifications & pregnant. She became a care worker; literally wiping backsides for a living. She became a union rep & rose up through the union movement to become an MP then Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

But I still couldn’t vote for her to become Prime Minister because of her lack of education, and evident economic illiteracy. I don’t think she would be intellectually up to the demands of the job & she would be incapable of representing the country to the required standards on the world stage. Imagine if Macron, Carney et al turned a leaders’ meeting into a macroeconomics seminar, what would Rayner be able to understand or contribute? She would be embarrassingly out of her depth, and if she did become PM it would end very quickly & very badly.

KnightonShiningArmour · 14/05/2026 18:19

DaffodilLill · 14/05/2026 08:09

How convenient for her that today of all days she is able to say HMRC has cleared her of wrongdoing.

How has she pulled that one off?

A backhander perhaps?

Absolutely ridiculous statement.

BlackRowan · 14/05/2026 21:22

KeepPumping · 14/05/2026 10:57

A GE is needed, Reform are the only solution now, they might turn out not so great after while, but UK politics needs the re-set, blue team/red team has run it"s course. As someone on SKY said, if KS really believes that he has a "mandate" from the British people he should call a GE, that would head off any challenges to his position because it is obvious that Parliament doesn"t believe he has that mandate any more.

Don’t be ridiculous. He has a clear mandate already based on recent GE when he was the leader of the party.

no one needs to go reconfirm if every 2 years. The public is clearly ok with him, its party infighting.

in no world Reform are the answer, they are complete muppets who can’t run a car wash let alone the country. We are not talking about proposing policies, we are talking about actually governing and dealing with issues like wars etc.

Cheesipuff · 14/05/2026 21:53

WildEnergySupplier · 14/05/2026 07:20

It's interesting to gauge Mumsnet's opinions on this.

Rayner isn't popular but it seems she's more popular than Streeting. Is that correct?

If the leadership was Starmer v Streeting v Rayner v Miliband v Burnham, I would vote, in this order:

  1. Rayner
  2. Miliband
  3. Burnham
  4. Starmer
  5. Streeting

Anyone else feel the same?

Burnham
Streeting
for me

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 14/05/2026 22:31

Nanny0gg · 14/05/2026 16:43

Trump calling you a plonker is quite the compliment really

I was thinking the same 😁

KeepPumping · 14/05/2026 22:33

Araminta1003 · 14/05/2026 12:16

:Are you serious? Boris was called everything from a clown who combs his hair with a balloon to Etonian buffoon and a lot more, he didn"t care though because it was all an act, someone who knew him at school said he was quite a sober serious chap for a couple of years then the Clown persona emerged, like an actor getting into character, this persona helped him to influence (manipulate?) people a bit better as far as social and career opportunities it seems.
The problem with AR is that it isn"t an act, she doesn"t seem to even have the self-awareness to realise that it isn"t all about her it is about how other people react to you. Boris had a strong message about Brexit and the anti-democratic attempts to cancel the vote, what is the message that AR has that the country will gravitate to?”

@KeepPumping - I also know some people who were at school with Boris and claim he gave the most ridiculous leaving speech. The difference is he had all the advantages (educationally and socially) and therefore the logical conclusion is the man has some sort of personality disorder/oppositional defiance of some sort and we should not be unleashing that type of personality on the general public.

How do these weird out of touch characters even get in and then have a detrimental impact on the lives of the many in a very real tangible way?
It must also be something wrong in the system. Namely that politics and the House of Commons and the media spectacle rewards buffoonery, drama, game playing etc over getting the very serious job done of managing the country’s finances and keeping us all safe. The system itself is rotten to the core. I would much prefer actual representation for all voters in a proportionate way, and an end to all the drama. None of them act like grown ups anymore. We are in a very serious situation right now fiscally and in terms of terrorism threat/wars and they are ALL acting out playground drama, yet again. None of it is forgivable!

And whether or not Angela Rayner agrees with the bond markets and capitalism, she needs to have enough sense to realise they won’t accept her. Just like she should have just paid the extra stamp duty and then try to figure out whether it was due or not.

I think it is AB who disregards bond markets, or thinks he does, AR doesn"t talk much about bond markets, not sure what her position on anything is in fact, best way out of this is a GE and a Reform government, the country needs a break from the red team/blue team nonsense.

KeepPumping · 14/05/2026 22:38

BlackRowan · 14/05/2026 21:22

Don’t be ridiculous. He has a clear mandate already based on recent GE when he was the leader of the party.

no one needs to go reconfirm if every 2 years. The public is clearly ok with him, its party infighting.

in no world Reform are the answer, they are complete muppets who can’t run a car wash let alone the country. We are not talking about proposing policies, we are talking about actually governing and dealing with issues like wars etc.

The public is clearly OK with him? Not sure that stands up to much scrutiny TBH, politics doesn"t work the way you want it to work, he has lost control of his party and is heading out the door, he is finished. The turnout for his election win was the lowest in 25 years or something and large numbers were voting to get rid of the Tory IMO, not for KS (although he obviously can"t process the fact that he isn"t the reason they won)

Placeoftides · 14/05/2026 22:48

I think Angela is great but I don't think she is PM suitable. Deputy PM again absolutely

MandyMotherOfBrian · 14/05/2026 22:57

What? This Angela Rayner? No.

Would you vote for Angela Rayner?
PenelopePinkerton · 15/05/2026 06:58

IoannahJo · 14/05/2026 08:40

Dim? Really? The slurs against her in this thread are dreadful but likely say more about those using them than anything.
And a taste on what will come her way with any leadership contest, let alone success.

She was my MP and I also had the misfortune of moving to work with her for a while. She is most certainly not the brightest and not someone I would want leading the country.

Supersimkin7 · 15/05/2026 08:04

No. Shouty.