This post nails it about left wing voters on Mumsnet over the last two days

[ProudAmberTurtle]

It's by an ex-academic on X, about posts on Reddit over the last 48 hours but is equally applicable to Mumsnet, where I can seeing posts stating things like:

"How stupid are Reform voters? Don't they realise they'll get fewer benefits?!"

The irony is of course that it's those posters who need to be educated, not the working class voters they mock because they think they're thick.

Here you go:

Reading through Reddit threads in which leftists/progressives express their bewilderment/confusion/fury at working class English voters for casting their lot in with Reform, one of the things I'm starting to understand is this:

They simply do not understand how a government could help working-class people in any other way besides giving them benefits, handouts, and other free things.

Their entire mental architecture is premised upon the premises that

1. Working class people are poor
2. The only way for them to not be poor is for the state to give them free stuff
3. So left-wing parties need to promise them lots of free stuff

Then, when these working-class voters instead vote for right-of-centre parties who instead promise an economy in which they can build a career, start their own business, make a financial success of themselves and start a family, they're confused.

Because, again, in their mental architecture, what the working class are supposed to want is free benefits from the state.

But what they actually want is a fair shake at making their own way in the world, making money, getting on in life.

And the left simply doesn't understand that what these voters want from the state is an economy in which they can actually do this.

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It’s not identity or ideology that define a person, but their actions and character.

Pro-left or pro-right, stupid stays stupid, bad faith stays bad faith, etc.

I didn’t use far left but @Twiglets1has said what she meant, not that it looked like an insult in her post.

On loyal I’d say someone who sticks with Labour even when things are not going well for them.

It nails nothing. It's just another example of a person seeing the WC as an homogeneous lump, just as he's accusing the left of doing, and projecting on to them wishes and motivations that suit his agenda.
Of course there are WC people as described. There are also WC people who for one reason or another will struggle greatly without support from the state.
However no left wing person I've ever met thinks it's desirable to have significant numbers of society not contributing if they are able to. This would be in direct contradiction to the concept of the greater good.
The Left is about encouraging everyone to participate in society, from each according to their means. Its about lifting people out of poverty by placing a higher value on their labour and closing the gap between the rich and the poor.
To claim is about wanting to give the poor free stuff is reductive nonsense.

Do you know a person from the left who is for taxing the rich but supports Israel, who approves of net zero but thinks sex is immutable? I am sure there are some, but it’s a tiny minority living in precarious circumstances. There’s definitely an omnicause thing going. If you are to adhere to one cause but not the other, you are in trouble and you will be kicked out, see how leftie GC women have been treated. It’s very monolithic with a stifled debate.

The leftie bias says that ppl on the right are all stupid racist thickos who can only vote Reform etc. They have commonalities ofc (the excess of immigration, benefits system, sovereignty etc) but they also have a lot more diversity in their views of society and political priorities, and there is more debate, exchange of ideas, tolerance and goodwill between its different strands than on the left, where you need to toe the line and stay within the authorised orthodoxy or you’re cancelled.

The Left has a big game of saying they are for everyone, in reality, at the first sign of digression, you’re out and thrown out from their “universal” project, which is a massive contradiction

Loyal only applies to people who don't hate Labour?

You were replying on Twiglets1 behalf, bit odd that you don't like to answer the question.

I genuinely don't recognise this 'universal project' of which you speak. I'm left wing and GC. My priorities are wealth inequality, women's rights and anti racism. I believe in from each according to their means to each according to their needs, and am typically unsupportive of Liberalism that puts personal freedoms ahead of the greater good.
I'm a leftie. My former miner and trade unionist 80 year old uncle is a leftie. My friends blue haired trans identified daughter is a leftie. So is the Communist Party of Great Britain, Keir Starmer and Hannah the plumber from the Greens.
I think you're making the mistake of creating a stereotype based on the behaviour displayed by a certain type of person who identifies as being of the left and is typically very active on SM. Out here in the real world its a broad church.