Are we all looking forward to David Lammy becoming PM?

[ProudAmberTurtle]

There's no way Starmer can survive this latest scandal.

Lord Mandelson failed his security vetting for the US ambassador job, but he still got the post anyway.

Starmer stood up in Parliament last September and insisted "full due process" was followed — three times.

He therefore either misled parliament and has to resign under the Ministerial Code, or his advisors have misled him and parliament, which is likely a criminal matter and suggests a level of almost unbelievable government incompetence or corruption.

What great things are you hoping this country will achieve under PM Lammy?

I've lost track now of the number of paedophile-adjacent men that Starmer secretly tried to give plum jobs to

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/matthew-doyle-starmer-mandelson-vetting-olly-robbins-b2961803.html

Ok so back to backing Labour.

Labour and Tory brought us to this mess, we need to re-paint the political landscape.

What happened with Brexit? Not much for the average person.

The economy tanked, we lost all the trade links with Europe, credibility on the world stage declined, people lost their jobs (including me), less ability to deal with small boats (if that floats your boat - no pun intended), free movement of people, ability to work in Europe. To name a few things.

“Labour and Tory brought us to this mess, we need to re-paint the political landscape.“

That is never going to happen because if push comes to shove, Labour and Tory would have to hold their noses and form a coalition either with each other or with Reform/Green respectively. The thing is before the next general election each and every one of us deserves to know. Because there is a massive difference between voting Labour vs voting batshit current version of Green Party/Labour coalition just like there is a difference of boring old Tory vs Tory/Reform with Farage the living breathing lampoon who already did enough damage for a century.

I thought the UK had a free trade deal with the EU?

We did, before Brexshit.

Or are you meaning the new limited terms one signed last year? It is a step in the right direction, but isn't what we had before. Besides, the damage is done.

Lost all trade links to Europe? No, this is just nonsense, sorry.

See follow up post.

all the worst people that joined Labour in the most recent incursion are now either Green members, candidates or supporters.
they are no longer arsed about the environment (I can support a lot of that) they are fighting a local election that should be about fly tipping and bins on Gaza and all sorts of mental bonkers uncosted bollocks. Reform are fighting the same ‘dog shit and potholes’ election on fucking small boats. Catch yourselves on.

To me Reform are about a sovereign nation, the UK in case anyone forgot, controlling it"s own borders and making it"s own laws, not bending the knee to European courts, Brexit is a start, properly controlling the numbers coming in is the next step, immigration is falling but this is just because the government are tweaking visa rules to create a smokescreen against Reform. My feeling is that we are heading for another Brexit type vote where all the vested interest media says one thing and then a very large number of voters say another.

Well, for starters, all the main stream media is anti Labour - pro Reform.

On the EU, if we wish to trade with them, then we have to "bend the knee" on standards...or do you think Farage's cow towing to Trump is a better way forward?
If we had Farage as PM, UK service men and women would have been in harms way in and around Iran.. what is more Sovereign than tell the USA "No we wont back you in your illegal and very damaging war"

Farage has even less of an idea on how to stop x channel migration than the Tories did or Labour have now but at least they have recognised that the solution is in mainland Europe.

Hopefully a politician will come along one day to point out the bleeding obvious, that running a country and leading its population is about more than banging on about immigration and borders.

I think Starmer will hang on till the May elections and after some disastrous results, will finally have no choice. I don’t think there’s a viable replacement either which means this failed government will likely limp on till the GE, not really achieving anything. How sad, when so many had such high hopes

The only coalition that might work is the libdems cooperating with either Labour or Tories.

I'm hanging on to the hope that Reform will win a lot of councils in May, make an unmitigated cock up of them before the GE, and then people will vote elsewhere when it really matters.

That was my hope this time last year. Unfortunately the mess they’re making of the ten councils they won then doesn’t appear to have registered with their voters.

Maybe ten isn't enough to really register with the electorate at large? Also, if they haven't got a Reform council themselves they may think it's not as bad as is being said.

Reform will always have their core voters, we just need the 'protest vote' voters who vote for them this time to realise they're a shower of shit at doing the practicalities of leadership / governance.

I remain hopeful that they'll shit the bed by the time there's another GE.

Somebody like KS you mean?

Oh David Lammy is just such a huge disappointment. Such high hopes. Shame on him. 😔

Im sorry to say, as a long time labour voter, that I think he’d be one of the culprits of that approach.

If you don't get a grip on immigration and borders then pretty soon you won't have a country worth running anyway. While immigration and borders are not under control then everything else is just fiddling while Rome burns.

“If you don't get a grip on immigration and borders then pretty soon you won't have a country worth running anyway. While immigration and borders are not under control then everything else is just fiddling while Rome burns.”

Hmm, a skilled immigrant who arrives with a skill and contributes during their working life and then often retires back to their home country, often adds more to the economy than much of the indigenous population. And with the ageing demographic we need the immigrants that are net positive. So exactly how is all this anti immigrant talk going to work in practice when we need a lot of these people?

Quite. We need an intelligent approach, and nobody has the courage to develop one.