Why isn’t Trump being overthrown?

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I’m sorry if this is a really thick question but I’m guessing that the answers will be multi-faceted.

Why isn’t Trump being overthrown internally in the US? He is presiding over a shit show and trampling over the constitution from what I understand. But there doesn’t seem to be massive resistance to this (or at least none reported). Can anyone explain why this is, please. Genuine question.

Plenty of people would like to get rid of Starmer but that’s not happening either.

His supporters like guns?

Well a lot of people will approve of what he's doing and a lot more will be ambivalent because all this stuff is happening far away and to a widely disliked regime. Also, the US is relatively well insulated from the inevitable fall out.

I'm not sure if he's trampling over the constitution so much as over international law, which a lot of people (not just Trump supporters to be fair) see as increasingly unworkable in the current geopolitical climate.

There is no valid comparison whatsover between the two, imo.

It's about far more than Iran.

On a purely symbolic level, have you seen what he's done to the Whitehouse?

ICE?

Tariffs?

Greenland?

Etc, etc.

Also, the Democrats are just not a cohesive force. I know it's a different system but there is no apparent leadership/ alternative that people can rally around. As seen in Iran, if you want regime change you have to have that alternative primed and waiting.

I think resistance is growing. Have you not read about Minnesota? Or the No Kings marches? And a few decent republicans speaking out?

Comparing it to people being unhappy with Keir Starmer is ridiculous.

KS like RS and even LT before him are, useless or not, politicians.

Trump is purely a psychopathic businessman doing the grubbiest deal of his life with the world as his bargaining chips.

Because he is the democratically elected president. Who would forcefully remove him? The armed forces? He is their supreme commander. The Democrats? That would be saying they don’t believe democracy works.
Whilst many people might hate what he is doing to his country and to the world, he is not doing anything illegal according to the laws of his country.

it does show the president in the US has too much power and the house and senate are paper tigers.

Hardly the same level. You may not like Starmer but he hasn’t started a war in the Middle East.

He worked hard to surround himself with people who agree with him.

The US constitution has no mechanism to remove him. They have the 25th amendment but only one section applies, and it has never been used.

From the web:

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

The US congress can't hold a vote of no confidence as the UK Parliament can.

Because a lot of Americans think he's great. They like the idea that the US is "kicking ass".
They have so little exposure to the world outside their own borders they don't know what they are talking about, and their education on world politics is almost zero.

Just think about Trump's idiotic statement that the war has already been won. Iran won't roll over no matter what Trump wants. He's just an ignorant bully. The repercussions of this war will echo around the region for decades, causing new terrorist factions, which will all need addressing.

Because like in many countries international actions do not impact view of leaders as much as domestic ones, the American economy grew last year, most people vote or consider their own personal situation far more than the bigger picture so if they and their family are doing ok they will be happy with current leadership even though they may not like Trump.. just like many don't like Starmer but think Farage would be worse. So you can not like Trump but still think he is better than the alternative. We only hear about major USA stuff that hits headlines not what is happening in ordinary towns in USA what we hear about USA is unlikely to be the lived reality for millions of Americans

I find it amazing he is still there too. I think the answer is because

1. he’s got all his mates and any opportunistic grifter up there with him
2. I think he’s threatening peoples families etc as I just can’t see how kristi noem or pat bondi et al. Would freely be so disgusting.
3. they seem to hate radical Islam but they’re radical Christian’s and gun cultists. They’re fucking mental

People will vote, the mid terms are next.

I think the current situation has exposed some gaping holes in the US constitution.

Their beloved “checks and balances” have failed.

They have no leader of the opposition to focus the resistance.

Rather like the Spanish Inquisition, nobody expected the country to elect a psychopath.

Keep your eyes on Texas. That will be the tipping point. It looks like the reddest of red states is turning blue, which means the Senate is now in play.

A year ago it was almost certain that the republicans would retain the senate but that has completely flipped and the odds of them winning have fallen through the floor (from somewhere like 81% certainty to 56% in less than a year, and that number is steadily dropping). If Talarico can win in Texas then really the floodgates will open for the democrats and it's then on them to push the momentum. Trump has lost huge sections of the MAGA base who are turning against him, so his support is cracking. Interestingly, his endorsement of candidates is now seen as toxic by voters so he doesn't have the influence he once had.

If democrats take the House and the Senate then Trump will be impeached and could be convicted. At the very least, it will neutralises his actions considerably as they can take away funding, support and tie him up in investigations for the rest of his term.He can veto legislation but it effectively produces a stalemate position which will contain his craziness until the next presidential election. Though, physically I'm not convinced he'll make it to then as he is clearly very unwell.

The mid terms in November will be the moment things change dramatically. The US people want their country back..

Because he was democratically elected and there isn't an election for a while.

Or allowed citizens to be killed in the street, or pardoned criminals, or been a sexual predator...I'm more surprised he hasn't been assassinated tbh, rather than overthrown

I really hope you're right. I do think there were quite a lot of reasonably sensible voters who voted Trump on a "low tax ticket" expecting him to not do much / to be contained despite the rhetoric and are now horrified.

"He's not doing anything illegal".

His flagship policy, tariffs, has been deemed illegal and companies are now demanding that they be paid back the money that paying the tariffs cost them.

From his posts, it seems Trump is deeply worried about Texas turning blue, to the point where he's trying to stop the republican's own democratic process to pick their own candidate. That said Trump's endorsement could also be the kiss of death to the candidate!

Trump has openly said if the democrats win in November he will be impeached, so he knows he is on thin ice.

The concern is that the run off between Paxton and Cornyn will be very costly and will cut into their budget to run against the democratic candidate in November. Whilst the democrats have plenty of resources to back Talarico and can pour more in to push it over the line.

The Paxton/Cornyn race is bitter and dirty with them slinging mud at each other, which doesn't cast either in a good light and is too reminiscent of the Trump chaos. Whereas Talarico is younger, more relatable and coherent in his arguments. It seems like the past and the future of politics are going to fight it out in Texas, and the younger generations are pissed off at what is happening to their country.

Texas will be the turning point and Trump knows it.

I don’t think there is a mechanism for his removal. It’s also very hard in this climate to get a truthful view of what US citizens actually think of him and the republicans.

I think something will only go down if he makes a genuine attempt to get re-elected for a 3rd term by changing the piece of legislation that says he can’t. I think he will lose a lot of his own personal supporters and that’s when people will start working against him from the inside.

How would it be done and who would replace him?

That’s just it. It’s your opinion. Everyone has one, and they are all different. In the US many are of the opinion Trump can do no wrong. Many have the opposite opinion. Until the majority against becomes overwhelming he will remain in power. He currently has
massive support, something some on MN can’t get their heads around.