Why isn’t Trump being overthrown?

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I’m sorry if this is a really thick question but I’m guessing that the answers will be multi-faceted.

Why isn’t Trump being overthrown internally in the US? He is presiding over a shit show and trampling over the constitution from what I understand. But there doesn’t seem to be massive resistance to this (or at least none reported). Can anyone explain why this is, please. Genuine question.

Because more people in America approve of his ways than don’t, which is why he is where he is.

In your opinion! Plenty of business owners who would happily see him overthrown without even asking employees.

This is the worry because Trump’s character traits seem so extreme that he may be completely unable to accept losing face in any way, which makes someone like him even more unpredictable. I don’t really have a sense of whether he will get away declaring martial law or the equivalent to stop the mid terms from going ahead.

I’m not the poster this question was directed towards who may have a better understanding of the likelihood of this.

The direct answer to your question is, OP, is that Trump is serving the interests of the very rich people around him. His handlers.

He serves their purpose

Why isn't Trump being overthrown?

1. Lots of people presumably like him as president.
2. The US is a democratic country that has a political system which has to follow due process by law. You can't just easily oust someone from power.
3. The Democrats are not a strong united party and so aren't in a fit state to challenge Trump. I hope they ditch identity politics and get their act together soon though.

The senate and the house would need to impeach him and currently the Republicans control both so it wouldn't happen. Very few Republican politicians would vote to impeach him, I assume for fear of harming their own futures.

If the UK worked on the basis that we have to respect democracy come what may, Johnson would have remained in power. Thank goodness we have a system that ultimately prevented that.

No he wouldn’t because Johnson was elected only by his constituents.

On that basis the Conservatives under May should have served out the full term.

Perhaps he is being allowed to remain in place because people are even more frightened of J D Vance stepping in to replace him?

Or perhaps people are just in denial because the reality of what they've done by electing Trump is just too awful to contemplate?

When you really look at the detail of what is going on in the US right now, it's utterly terrifying - the war on Iran is just the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps it's just easier to close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and pretend that it isn't happening?

I have been reading about Texas turning.

Christ on a bike if Trump is impeached I will crack open the bottle of champagne which has been sat in my fridge for yonks.

Wouldn’t it be great?!

That makes zero sense.

A small sample size of one, but I have a Texan friend who says the tide is turning with even his previously strong supporters.

She noted the impact of him attacking Iran which is against his election pledge, and also his links to Epstein. She mentioned that it feels he is unstable. The ICE issue has started to raise questions. Lastly she commented that the way the British have acted to make arrests following Epstein throws the US approach into a very bad light which is tracked back to Trump.

She’s in a staunchly red area and says it’s turning even there.

Unlikely imho.

It's dangerous rhetoric but I don't think he would be able to pull it off. The national backlash would be huge. The democrats have been developing a strategy to deal with any attempts to do this, so they're not going to be caught out without a plan. It's already been talked about in the media what steps they will take to counter this.

Trump's biggest fear is postal voting because it's how he lost the 2020 election.

A recent bill passed through Congress by Republicans to tighten ID requirements for voting did not include any amendments to postal voting, much to Trump's annoyance. So it shows the Republican support is not as strong as it may be portrayed in the right wing press.

I would suggest there is no long term appetite in the Republican party to carry the label of ending democracy in the US. Many of the current Republicans are not running again due to the toxic situation and a lot are now starting to look at their post Trump careers. They do not want to jeopardize that and end up in court after he's gone. Look at what happens to those close to him.

I think politically he is becoming more of a lame duck by the day and a liability to the Republican party. Which is exactly why the situation in Texas is a bell weather for that shift in attitude towards him..

He’s doing sweet F.A. For the average American , health care premiums have increased substantially, food prices have hugely increased also but hey ho they have cheap gas …the No Kings march was a joke , considering the population only a tiny minority marched, a few years so in Paris more people marched and rioted because of the possibility of longer working hours and shorter lunch breaks ! Hands up to the French they know how to make a point. Europe holds most of the bonds for American banks , if they withdrew them , it would cripple the American economy over night . This is what needs to be done .

No it wouldn't. UK democracy only those in his constituency voted for Johnson - the rest just voted for the party.

Ditto I'll have a party!

Mid terms will definitely be interesting

Another example of the selective outrage you see so often from the left.

Where is your outrage towards the murder by the Iranian regime of the 36,000 innocent Iranian civilians which happened last month OP?

Where is your outrage towards the Iranian state sponsored terrorism that has caused deaths all over the globe?

Where is your outrage at the repression the Iranian regime has inflicted on the Iranian people over the past 4 decades OP? Women and girls were raped in prison prior to execution because under their rules you can’t execute virgins.

In my town there are a group of people who assemble by the market cross on a Friday with their children and they bang on their pots and pans in protest at the events in Gaza.
Not a peep out of them in relation to the 36,000 innocent souls were gunned down last month though.

Overthrown - like the January 6th attempt against Biden? There are groups of resistance to his policies, but they're locally based, I don't think there is much will for an overthrow even with everything going on.

If you mean why hasn't he been removed - the two impeachment attempts during his last term didn't go well and Democrats simply don't have the numbers. Maybe they will after the mid-terms, but whether they have the will for it remains to be seen.

I'm not sure if it should be a Democrat priority with everything going on. As others said, remove Trump, you get Vance. Remove Vance, you get Mike Johnson, then Rubio...keep going and we end up with RFK Jr. The US doesn't have the UK system of a leader gets unpopular and so their party votes for a new one. Congress can remove him with great difficult, but there is no process to remove the whole succession line. They need to focus on damage control that actually has impact for people if the Democrats want to keep momentum, I'm not sure an impeachment would get us there.

The checks and balances in the US isn't meant to be an oppositional party. American political parties developed during, but solidified after the constitution - technically, the whole thing can work without political parties at all. It's meant to be the three different branches are separate and do not answer to each other. Presidents for decades have been chipping away at that, Trump's been doing it at warp speed. I'm hoping once we're through this we might have enough popular pressure to firm that back up again, but I think it'll be difficult for people to push that through - both major parties like when they have that much control, that's why they've been expanded as far as they have, and then the other side yells how things have gone too far when they're not in control.

The whole thing is wild and the epitome of corruption. Even the fact that someone can just buy their way into being president, without having any political qualifications or experience blows my mind.

I am not a fan of Starmer by any means but Trump is no comparison. He is scarily dangerous and clearly is in the throes of having dementia but still being allowed to declare war on other countries. It’s terrifying.

Well, yes and no.

It would be great to see Trump impeached. But the prospect of President Vance is frightening.

Not necessarily.

If the democrats win the house and the senate, they can effectively neutralise any incumbent president. The president can Veto any bill they pass as well. So it effectively becomes a stalemate.

So the craziness would be contained and a limbo status in place until the next presidential election.

Vance does not command much respect in the Republican party or on the world stage, so he would effectively be a caretaker president.

The rhetoric about Vance being worse is just noise to persuade the masses that Trump isn't too bad, whilst ignoring the fundamental evidence in front of our eyes.

Which Democrat would you like to see run next @KayPop?

That's an interesting question.

I think that there needs to be a younger president in the White House. I think if the Ukrainian conflict has taught us anything it's that effective and decisive leadership can come from unexpected sources, not generations of wealth and privilege.

I think the younger generations will be very interesting to watch, the ones that have grown up with technology and social media. The ones who have experienced social inequality, extortionate medical insurance, job instability and crippling student debt.

I think that the current rising younger talent will be interesting to watch, including James Talarico, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Pete Buttigieg, Ro Khanna, Wes Moore, and Josh Shapiro.

A caretaker president in the form of Vance will allow the democrats to bring forward younger talent and put some vibrance and hope back into the White House, not corruption on an industrial scale, racism and spiralling poverty.