Anyone else think Starmer leaving just creates more turmoil?

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Not impressed by the communications and mishaps but honestly don’t understand how anyone (other than those who just want a general election / Reform etc) would think that his stepping down is going to help anyone?! The country doesn’t need more turmoil!!!! Ffs!

I appreciate there have been mishaps but why do they think anyone else would do better, especially in foreign policy where he has been the adult in the room. There are no clear standout candidates lining up- all are problematic. Why waste this massive majority?! A new leader would then really have to call a GE, and then they would lose possibly to Reform!

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!!

I don’t have a labour mp - I would love to fo something like this, and to support Starmer, not sure if that’s possible though

I see. Only pro Labour then. Anyway for all these posts people will vote as they like and Labour could do badly. Labour on mn will keep going on in this way but at some point votes could get them out.

This.

Plus the vote on GB news breakfast last week thought he could survive!

Just very anti reform actually

There’s other parties. Not everyone has to vote as you do. And it’s looking likely many won’t in May.

Overseas influence is the very reason he became PM in the first place. And we all know who chose the list of Labour candidates for the general election in 2024. And we know who orchestrated the downfall of the previous Labour leader. So...

For the same reason@ his own party think he will lose the next election. According to the polls, he is competing with Liz Truss for the least popular prime minister of all time.

The economy isn't doing well which tends to get any party voted out as no one wants to get poorer.

I feel the same way. Starmer is a serious man which is what is needed after the Johnson and Truss embarrassments. You don’t need to be entertained by a PM. I prefer serious in a serious job!

I don’t believe the so called hate for Starmer, again a press line I think. I think he has and is being very badly let down by his trusted advisors and some fellow Labour people, Burnham included as what he did just stoked the fire

@DenizenOfAisleOfShameyou can't honestly be comparing Starmer to Truss or Johnson. He's not perfect by any means but he's not comparable.
Tory jokers as usual.

The right wing press/social media/BBC have so much to answer for in this country. Comparing him to Truss or Johnson is ridiculous.
Why isn't the focus on the vile, powerful white men who did something very, very wrong??

Really? Not comparable? He’s worse.

WTAF? I don’t think he did literally nothing? He appointed a paedophile into one of the top diplomatic roles.knowingly.

but I agree that there is no one better.

what a low bar-no one better in the Labour Party to run the country then someone who advocates for a paedophile.

If Starmer leaves then the Labour Party will inevitably move to the Left. Public services will not improve and taxes will rise. Small businesses and innovation will struggle and yet again those of us with the broadest shoulders will be asked to pay ever more. This will not end well.

@DenizenOfAisleOfShamewe'll have to agree to differ on that😁
Jeez even the Daily Star ( right wing tory loving comic) took the piss out of them. Can't add much to that.

Mandelson was a pedophile? What on earth have you been reading?! There’s no evidence at all for that.

Peter Mandelson a paedophile?

@ThisDandyWriter what are you talking about? No one has suggested Mandelson is a paedophile. He was friends with Epstein, accepted money from him, enjoyed the lifestyle benefits of friendship with him, and shared information with him. All appalling, but there’s been no indication he was involved sexually with anyone procured or trafficked by JE.

Yes, spinning the leadership revolving door won't improve the situation. It will just increase the chaos and undermine whatever stability has been achieved since the end of the Tory nightmare.

Those who genuinely believe that Starmer is "way out of his depth" really need to ponder the alternatives, and ask why they think they'd be any better.

Wow!
Rubbish!

l despair at the level of intelligence in this country.

I'd be very glad to see his aims for assisted suicide, abortion, and home-education fall by the wayside.

But I agree that the country needs stable government and leadership, especially in an unstable world.

A PP described him as "the grown up in the room". Angels Rayner seems the exact opposite and I dread the thought of her being PM. She'd be a poor leader for the country, and would make a Reform Government almost guaranteed.

Please provide the evidence that Mandelson has been convicted as a paedophile.

Me too. As evidenced by many on this thread.

If I was Peter Mandelson I would be feeling quite litigious reading this.... No evidence at all he ever abused anyone underage, he is a gay man and not implicated in any if the sex trafficking of young girls.

Quite slanderous really

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