Any Americans on here? What is the feeling in America regarding trump?

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I've only seen one person talking out against him regarding Greenland. I know this can't be representative to reality. But I wonder what the media is controlling

What's going on in America?

Sure. Again, no argument from me.

But the press talks about this as if Trump has absolute power. He simply doesn't. I mean, I expect the SC to rule against him on tariffs. Again, this is the responsibility of the Senate, not the President.

What Trump is doing is exercising Executive authority to see how far he can push it. He does this avoid pre-emptive intervention by the courts/congress. It is just normal politics.

But if we want to be honest about where the actual problem lies, we have to look at the Senate and House. Since the 1970s they have been willing to cede authority to the Executive. They need to start taking that power back.

You know the Brits supported this UN resolution right?

Taking out Maduro has been the policy of many western governments for a very long time. To say Trump acted crazily here just isn't true. He enforced UN policy. And again, weakened Russia.

This is a great example of the press simply lying. The Maduro policy has been the world position for years. So to suggest Trump is somehow an autocrat in this specific situation just isn't true. He's actually enforcing NATO and UN policy.

Typo above. 40% approve, 56% disapprove, per the Economist poll tracker.

Would you say the same thing if, say, the Orkneys or the Isle of Wight was found to have rare earth that the leader of a supposedly friendly nation fancies taking? Did you think that Argentina could just nick the Falkland Islands? Do you think China should just walk into Taiwan because they fancy it? I cannot fathom how you think what you have said is in any way reasonable. It’s batshit.

And it’s not just an “Arctic land mass”. It’s home to Greenlanders who have seemingly been perfectly happy being part of Denmark for generations. Do they not count?

Oh you again. Got your arse handed to you with these opinions on the other thread so you’re trying a different thread. Europe will strongly oppose any aggression to our sovereign territory by Putin’s puppet Trump. We don’t have to trade with America. We can sell our dollars and you would be worse off so start treating us like friends and allies and you won’t have any problems.

I wonder how much support there is in the army, whose leaders must be concerned about how thinly Trump intends to stretch them. How much appetite do they actually have to go and kill Greenlanders and their defenders? I know they have to follow orders, but could we reach a point where they simply say no and effectively take over?

We in the UK are poised to suffer some economic harm

Are we? Remember we've been here before, but TACO.

Also America wouldn’t give Europe Hawai’i, so why should we give you Greenland?

this is proof, more than ever, that Putin is using Trump to destabilise western alliances and we won’t let it happen. The best thing that could happen is for Americans to impeach Trump and get someone with America’s best interests in office.

You've written an appeasement manifesto there.
Heard of WW2? Peace in our time? Worked out well, did it? Righty-ho.

Thank you for this post as this is something I have wondered about.

So how has Trump been able to send Ice Agents to arrest citizens without the National Guard reacting? How did Venezuela happen? Surely Trump must have had to get the backing/permission from other politicians, military officials, etc? It does seem like he wakes up and acts out whatever mad plot he dreamed up the night before.

Trump took Venezuela for oil, the rest of the excuses are faff

so now Trump has Venezuela to solve his problem for oil - how is he going to get it out?

There are midterm elections this November - how is that likely to change things? If there are more Democrats in Wshington government than at present, will that constrain him a bit, which is why he's pushing hard now for the more extreme stuff?

I am not American, I do have some very close friends who live in one of the reddest states and they are both socially and economically conservative, they would never vote democrat. They do not support Trump.

Venezuala is consistent with UN policy. They were sending oil to Russia. So I'm not too concerned about this. Maduro sent enough opiods to kill thousands of Americans. I see this in my own city with addicts spread on the streets. I don't really worry about Venezuala.

ICE is a different story. Deploying State national guards is a significant escalation. It hasn't really been done since the Civil War. No State Governor wants to start a civil war. And this is a real risk if you have State and Fed troops shooting at each other.

But there is a lot of rumbling in the Republican party. The way this policy is being enforced is crazy. What we want is for State and Feds to work together. But Trumps antagonism has made this difficult. And to be fair, the antagonism of Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis.

What America needs is a real come to Jesus moment. We need to re-learn that we have more in common that we realize and that it is the upper class that wants to distract us by making us enemies.

If you actually look at Trump policies, they mirror Democratic policy during the Bush years. Negotiating on drug prices? Yup. Trump supports that. A ban on private equity purchase of residential properties? Democrats used to support this. But not anymore.

The flip of party policy has been interesting to watch. There is definitely a populist element that has influence in the modern GOP. Broadly, I think this is a good thing. For too long, Republicans have favored corporate interests over family interests. No longer. And as hard it is to admit, this 100% due to Trump.

Republicans are now open to gay marriage? 100% trump.

Trump has basically transformed the GOP into 2006 democrats. It is crazy.

Those percentages are scary!

Yeah just give the fascist dictator what he wants cos thats worked so well in the past. Ffs. The man is a threat to all of us and anyone who cant see that is an idiot.

If Democrats win the House, Trump is a lame duck. He can't do anything. None of his legislation will pass and the Democrats (stupidly) will try another impeachment.

The President's party usually loses House seats in midterms. It isn't realistic to expect the Senate to switch to Dem control. But the House is another matter. Repubs have a very very slim majority.

My expectation is that Americans will vote for Democrats to check Trump's executive authority. I would honestly be suprised in dems don't control the House come January. Regular Americans don't like how these policies are being enforced. And for Noem to suggest that Americans should be prepared to show citizenship papers? She needs to be impeached and removed. Most Americans do agree with this. Even if they may support the underlying policy of enforcing immigration law.

Trump doesn’t actually want the midterms to go ahead, he floated the idea of cancelling them and then said something along the lines of ‘’but I won’t suggest it because the fake news will call me a dictator’’. It’s clearly something he’s considered!

Yeah, looking at how the US is treating its citizens inMinnesota, the Greenlandic people would surely find the offer irresistible 🙄

Trump is demonstrating over and over again that he is no ally to Europe (or Canada). So why is the US taking `Greenland better than Russia or China?

They only have to follow LAWFUL orders. There’s some chats in military circles that the taking out of civilian boats off Venezuela was stretching the law to its extremes, yet the top brass was clearly happy to comply with orders. Will be very interesting to see how far that goes but I don’t hold out any hope.

I have swapped the News for Netflix fo the moment. So much bullshit comes out of Trumps mouth that its just easier to pay attention to what he is actually doing, rather than what he says he is going to do. The appointment of Mark Carney and Tony Blair may look interesting but I am more interested if it actually has any teeth.

I would imagine the Republicans will get very tired with the instability that the Trump administration and are already making plans to roll him, but the question is will he actually go?

Sure. But he's gone in 2 years. And Americans usually float back and forth. I fully expect a democrat President come 2029.

The press likes to scare people implying that Trump has more power than he actually has. He can't cancel elections. He can't send the army against US citizens.

I fully understand that we look crazy to Europeans, but this is why we own guns. If the feds want State authority, they will need to fight for it. And yes, there is that trope that "350 million semi-auto pistols and riles can oppose the US military." I think American and British troops who served in Iraq would agree that a bunch of shitty AK-47s and IEDs can be a real problem when trying to capture territory.

In the end, this is all your fault. :). We embrace the John Lockian right of revolution. And our philosophy is that the government won't be afraid of citizens unless they are armed. Again, I know this sounds nuts. But is is the American ethos.

This is why Trump will ultimately fail. Tyrants fall and individual Americans are pretty sensitive about the exercise of federal power.

@YourGoldSquid so are we to believe that despite “opportunity” China and Russia have only just become a threat to Greenland (and therefore USA) since Trump became POTUS? Don’t be silly.

Even if the mid terms went ahead, I wouldn’t be very confident there would be no interference. Musk has said he helped him win the presidency, and I’d bet my life Russia had something to do with it also. They are colluding together after all.

Of course not.

But we need to think 50 years out. If we really think Russia is a threat to Europe, we should neutralize their influence. Greenland (whether American or not) will play a huge role in this.

It isn't crazy to think about this as a potential opportunity for NATO and the US. But the way it is being done is absurd and embarrassing.

The Falklands? Good grief.

These alternative pov are disturbingly mind boggling.