Trump taking over Greenland?

[Cantonet]

Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

Id think trump more interested in Australia than europe as he seems focused on countering China.

In what sense?

In a real, actual full on to the final winner war? Maybe not.

But they would lose a decent number of people just against some of the smaller but well enough armed countries if they fought back, the UK as bad as funding is could give a big hit and casualties before stock piles run out (fast). Then there's China and many other countries and what they would really do, and at that point even the above full war would at best be uncertain for them. They have a huge armed forces, not magical armed forces.

So the real questions are would Trump survive attacking a friend and losing people? I am not so sure, even his die hard fans would be furious, the armed force vote would be. It would be the end of Trump very quickly. And would there be a fight back to cause that.

It would not be in America’s interest to have Australia under Chinese control, so I’m sure the United States would help, regardless of who is President. But the point is that it’s Sophie’s Choice. There is no perfect set up and the United States under Trump remains preferable to China under Xi. We just need to put our pen national interests first, like they both do.

Why wouldn't it be? He could deal with China, get US companies in there.. job done...
He isn't bothered about Taiwan, a Chinese take over there would be against US interests, it would push the world into recession as we'd all lose access to high end micro processors.

Ummm why do we need to side with either the US or China?

Neither would act in the UKs interest, we know that now.

Leaving the EU is looking more and more like a massive mistake.

What do Americans living in America think of this? That's what Matters re the out come.

Who knew the West child be unstable in 2026.

Britain would be strategic to the US. A island in Europe.

Well the US system managed to get rid of JFK without rules. I guess someone will when it suits them.

Because they don't want to pay for it?

Greenland might not be for sale.

It was audacious, but no different from Bin Laden.

Just to push back on this statement from a page or two back - I find it incredible that a PP is comparing the killing of Bin Laden who was the orchestrator of the biggest terrorist attack on US soil to the forced removal of the Venezualan president - who should apparently be happy he wasn't killed.

I don't agree whatsoever with Maduro, his policies, his human rights record or the way he has completely fucked up his country's economy - let alone the fact he was not democratically elected. BUT his actions are in no way equivalent to Bin Laden and America had no 'legal argument' to remove him.

The reactions on this thread illustrate exactly the point that people use a situation and start to catastrophise and whataboutery. People on here are now suggesting other countries potentially in line for being invaded by America. It’s bonkers! This is how rumours and fiction turning into fact start to grow legs in the media.

What is it you think he is really up to?

And plays absolutely beautifully into Putin’s hands. Imagine no more NATO? He can pick off the Baltic countries one by one to rebuild the USSR.

Are we all in agreement that Miller is a Russian operative?

PS @Livelovebehappy I’d imagine that Canadians are increasingly taking Trump’s mutterings about wanting their independent country as the 51st state after what he did in Venezuela.

I don’t know. As I say it’s just a possibility and it has a feel of that. If it IS a magic trick I would guess hiding something more domestic rather than international. I.e get the international news up in arms and guessing about this while at home we do something awful but it’s only in the US so doesn’t break through into wider news cycles.

There is always the real possibility he means every word he says and may use military force to take Greenland. So the whole this is quite troubling really.

Err He has already said Cuba & Columbia and is discussing "Military options" for Greenland, in case its escaped your notice, a NATO countries territory.

You think thats Catastrophising?

‘He has already said’ according to who? Have we seen him actually utter those words or is it something read in the Guardian and other newsfeeds? There’s a lot out there atm where quotes have been attributed to him and im just wondering what’s fiction and what’s actual truth…

As pp says, this has come from the White House, not GB News or whatever it is the Trump apologists watch. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going la la la isn't doing you much good here.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt:
“President Trump has made it well known that acquiring Greenland is a national security priority of the United States and it’s vital to deter our adversaries in the Arctic region. The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal”

Do you think she wrote this off her own back?

Did you listen to his own rambling speech yesterday? Rubio is on record about the fall of Cuba... and the US involvement in making it happen.

The condemnation from the 'right in UK politics has been very weak on this...

Back in the 1950s and up to the 1970s USA had large numbers of people there building and maintaining DEW Line early warning system. It was the US who pulled their troops and staff out. The has been a history of cooperation over many years.
That could be continued but Mr Greedy wants to 'own' the country.
In recent years there have been many schemes to develop mining in Greenland, very few have attracted major US investors.

Trump has managed to turn US into a rogue nation as well as a coloniser, which I can't imagine most MAGA fans would be thrilled about. He lured them in with the no expenses outside of US rubbish and has spent millions invading another country and planning attacks on a further one while threatening their closest neighbours as well as Iran. From a national safety standpoint he is almost asking for terrorists to attack. Maybe that is the plan, so he can tell MAGA idiots that they now have to invade? Poking as many bears as he can at once is a risky idea but he is stupid enough to plunge his whole arm into the beehive for some honey.

I’m more concerned with Starmer’s proposed action of taking troops into Ukraine for ‘peace keeping’. Wrong and ill thought out on many levels - putting a target on our backs with Putin, and ignoring the fact that the UK can’t even defend its own borders, so it’s laughable that he thinks we can protect Ukraine. This situation is ultimately going to affect us in the UK more than what America is spouting about.

We have been forced by America and Russia to pick a side. Trump is clearly a lunatic, so we have wisely picked EU.

He has said it. From his own mouth.

What's going on here ? Do you not believe your eyes and ears when the guy is speaking ?

Perhaps start a thread about it? This is about Greenland. But nice attempt to divert discussion.

It's not the fact the 'Trump is a lunatic' or not but that America is known for not helping us in times of war until it is almost too late and in the case of WW2 only after it was attacked itself. Europe as a whole are natural allies for the UK.

Well yes, that is the background but given his recent actions they have forced our hand into being more resolute.

Good divert but thats not what he has said at all...

Would be AFTER a peace agreement and over seen by the USA but as Putin has no intention of agreeing to a Peace agreement... Concern yourself with a NATO ally attacking another NATO ally to gain territory.

I assume you can see tha issues this causes.

As i said earlier, the 'right are either silent on this or in tacit support.