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Trump taking over Greenland?

405 replies

Cantonet · 06/01/2026 10:50

Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

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TracyBeakerSoYeah · 07/01/2026 03:13

If Trump thinks it's ok to waltz into other countries & take them over then I want the Eastern seaboard back in British hands.
Russia can have Alaska back & France can take back the territory they lost in the Louisiana Purchase as both countries were diddled when they sold the land.
Mexico too should take back the land they lost to the US in the 1850s.

All's fair in love & war.

I'd also like to ask Trump why he thinks Russia invading Ukraine is wrong considering Putin says it's for 'security', yet it's absolutely fine for the USA to invade Greenland for 'security'.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:14

SpringsOnTheWay · 06/01/2026 21:52

I don’t mean with America I mean globally, suddenly any country can decide to take another country

President Zelensky of Ukraine would like to remind you that that's already the case.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:21

TheMerryJoker · 06/01/2026 22:26

its the fact society tech etc needs the minerals so one way other another etc

Edited

We need drinkable water, breathable air, and a food chain that isn't poisoned with toxic metals more.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:23

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/01/2026 22:32

My Trumpian American friend says that Greenland needs saving from Putin. So imaginary dictators now count.

There’s a great Terry Pratchett piece:

“Shoot the dictator and prevent the war?
But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there’ll be another one along in a minute.
Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland?
In fifty years’, thirty years’, ten years’ time the world will be very nearly back on its old course. History always has a great weight of inertia.”
— Terry Pratchett (often attributed to Lords and Ladies)

Trump is pretending to stop Putin by being Putin. I think it’s all a spheres of influence thing with Putin getting Europe, China getting Asia and Trump the Americas. No one wants poor Africa (I might relocate to Botswana or Malawi).

China already has large chunks of Africa. They don't invade, they "invest" by opening mines, but it has the same effect.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:26

TheMerryJoker · 06/01/2026 22:52

if we actually had to use them, then before we did activate all our bunkers, for the leaders etc and then when the ash settles, we begin rebuilding, humanity overall will survive it will just alter the global order.

You, personally, would die if this happened.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:35

BreakingBroken · 06/01/2026 23:05

oh exciting news!! If i read this right...
Trump is after the Bella 1, now that would be exciting to watch.
it's a shadow fleet oil tanker from V heading to Russia previously had a Guyana flag but recently switched to Russian. It was off Ireland yesterday and now in British waters. Negotiations ongoing the US wants the tanker, UK and Denmark don't want it touched but we all know Trump has balls.

What's a shadow fleet? Why would Trump care about one tanker? And why has it changed flag?

SpidersAreShitheads · 07/01/2026 04:01

Trump is a dangerous man. The signs have been there for a very long time and he’s just getting bolder.

I am so appalled at what’s happening I don’t really have any words.

It’s awful that a president - without congress approval - can bomb another nation and take their president captive. Nothing will convince me otherwise. There are countless nations around the world with shitty regimes and shitty leaders. Are they all up for grabs? Today Trump has announced the proceeds of the Venezuelan oil he has stolen will be used for the benefit of both the Venezuelan and American people. So openly selling another country’s assets to make the US richer. Oh, and he proudly announced there were no deaths on the American side - so fuck the Cubans and Venezuelans who died in his unlawful attack.

And now he’s openly going after Greenland. Today they have said that Denmark has no claim to Greenland and that it “should” belong to the US. They have said they need it strategically so they will have it. End of. They’ve pretty much said if they can’t get it peacefully, they’ll use military force to acquire it.

I suspect unless there’s really effective and smart diplomatic intervention somewhere Trump will attempt to go ahead. It’s become do high orofule it’s almost a matter of ego and pride for him now. Plus he’s emboldened by the fact that he’s gotten away with shafting Venezuela. I hope Denmark and Greenland tell him to fuck off.

I hope Europe is brave enough to stand up to him because he’s a dangerous man who doesn’t seem to have any sense. I can’t quite work out why those around him go along with it - do they share his absolutely insane vision? Or are they just giddy with the excitement of power? Vance was extremely critical of Trump before he became his running mate. I think he is the equivalent of Wes Streeting - a career politician who’s savvy enough to see which way the wind is blowing and has no scruples in changing direction to further his own career.

I don’t think Trump has any plans to step down when his term ends. He’s talked about changing the constitution to allow a third term. Scarily he’s also talked about banishing elections (see Project 2025). If Trump succeeds with Greenland, what next? Canada? I don’t think he’ll stop until he’s built an empire - I think he’s after oil and wealth, but I also think he wants to colonise the world. He’s drunk on his ego.

I worry that we’ve all trusted the US too much and are now toothless to stand up to it now Trump has gone rogue. I think China and Russia will rub their hands watching the west turn on itself.

I’m not a wild conspiracist usually but Trump’s behaviour is just sickening - and I really do mean that. I have no difficulty believing the very worst of him.

I also think that what him and his team are saying and doing is so outrageous that there shouldn’t be a political divide. I would have so much respect for Republicans who were honest enough to stand up and say “this isn’t what I voted for and it needs to stop”.

BreakingBroken · 07/01/2026 05:09

@selffellatingouroborosofhate the shadow or dark fleet is a group of vessels that transport goods using deceptive techniques (like turning off their transponders, changing names, changing flags) to circumvent sanctions (environmental for example). Often carrying Russian oil. Since so many countries are not suppose to buy Russian oil (Trump's is taxing countries that do heavily, India for example) they are sending it to a few countries that will accept it...but Trump is hot on the trail of these derelict vessels. Now the US wouldn't think twice about pulling over a ship with a Guyana flag but surely at this point will think twice before boarding and seizing a Russian one. In the end it's to hurt Putin and lean to an end in the Ukrainian war.
Report: U.S. Still Plans to Seize Fleeing Russian-Flagged Tanker

Genevieva · 07/01/2026 05:13

I understand the Arctic threat he wants to counter. I don’t understand the desire to annex Greenland. The US already has more than one military base there. They get strategic control without the cost of a colony. Denmark is broadly a friend. It doesn’t make any sense, unless I’m kissing something.

Genevieva · 07/01/2026 05:13

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Genevieva · 07/01/2026 05:20

SpidersAreShitheads · 07/01/2026 04:01

Trump is a dangerous man. The signs have been there for a very long time and he’s just getting bolder.

I am so appalled at what’s happening I don’t really have any words.

It’s awful that a president - without congress approval - can bomb another nation and take their president captive. Nothing will convince me otherwise. There are countless nations around the world with shitty regimes and shitty leaders. Are they all up for grabs? Today Trump has announced the proceeds of the Venezuelan oil he has stolen will be used for the benefit of both the Venezuelan and American people. So openly selling another country’s assets to make the US richer. Oh, and he proudly announced there were no deaths on the American side - so fuck the Cubans and Venezuelans who died in his unlawful attack.

And now he’s openly going after Greenland. Today they have said that Denmark has no claim to Greenland and that it “should” belong to the US. They have said they need it strategically so they will have it. End of. They’ve pretty much said if they can’t get it peacefully, they’ll use military force to acquire it.

I suspect unless there’s really effective and smart diplomatic intervention somewhere Trump will attempt to go ahead. It’s become do high orofule it’s almost a matter of ego and pride for him now. Plus he’s emboldened by the fact that he’s gotten away with shafting Venezuela. I hope Denmark and Greenland tell him to fuck off.

I hope Europe is brave enough to stand up to him because he’s a dangerous man who doesn’t seem to have any sense. I can’t quite work out why those around him go along with it - do they share his absolutely insane vision? Or are they just giddy with the excitement of power? Vance was extremely critical of Trump before he became his running mate. I think he is the equivalent of Wes Streeting - a career politician who’s savvy enough to see which way the wind is blowing and has no scruples in changing direction to further his own career.

I don’t think Trump has any plans to step down when his term ends. He’s talked about changing the constitution to allow a third term. Scarily he’s also talked about banishing elections (see Project 2025). If Trump succeeds with Greenland, what next? Canada? I don’t think he’ll stop until he’s built an empire - I think he’s after oil and wealth, but I also think he wants to colonise the world. He’s drunk on his ego.

I worry that we’ve all trusted the US too much and are now toothless to stand up to it now Trump has gone rogue. I think China and Russia will rub their hands watching the west turn on itself.

I’m not a wild conspiracist usually but Trump’s behaviour is just sickening - and I really do mean that. I have no difficulty believing the very worst of him.

I also think that what him and his team are saying and doing is so outrageous that there shouldn’t be a political divide. I would have so much respect for Republicans who were honest enough to stand up and say “this isn’t what I voted for and it needs to stop”.

Venezuela is totally different. You don’t have a public debate in a security operation and Maduro has been on the arrest warrant just for 5 years. It was audacious, but no different from Bin Laden. More successful in fact because he is still alive. Venezuelans are delighted. It might bring a return to democracy and a more prosperous future.

Greenland is not an equivalent. Both the plan / annexation - and the current situation. Its people would not celebrate.

This lack of discernment is what is so worrying.

mellongoose · 07/01/2026 06:08

Genevieva · 07/01/2026 05:13

I understand the Arctic threat he wants to counter. I don’t understand the desire to annex Greenland. The US already has more than one military base there. They get strategic control without the cost of a colony. Denmark is broadly a friend. It doesn’t make any sense, unless I’m kissing something.

I don’t disagree with the main thrust of opinion on this thread. However, the Arctic (and Antarctic) threat is real. Russia to the north and China to the south.

If we have to align with a US, Russian or Chinese sphere, I choose the US. It may feel a bit like Sophie’s Choice but this is where we are. He is playing their game.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 07/01/2026 06:49

He is completely out of control. If he tries to take Greenland then that's the end of NATO. It's terrifying

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 07:02

We and all of Europe should start closing down US bases here, trade sanctions.... & opposing militarily too, once we stand up to him, he will back down... the normal American doesn't want a war with Europe and he knows that.

Appeasing Trump just means he comes for more, all the lick arse by Macron, Starmer etc has achieved nothing... he is laughing at us... if we let him walk into Greenland, then quite frankly he could decide to take any country in Europe too, perhaps Scotland... his "home" country.

As for him being mad etc... well that means everyone around him is mad too and thats just not the case, they are just a bunch of dictators, worse than Putin or Xi.

I note Reform have said nothing about Trumps demands.

Dgll · 07/01/2026 07:16

SpidersAreShitheads · 07/01/2026 04:01

Trump is a dangerous man. The signs have been there for a very long time and he’s just getting bolder.

I am so appalled at what’s happening I don’t really have any words.

It’s awful that a president - without congress approval - can bomb another nation and take their president captive. Nothing will convince me otherwise. There are countless nations around the world with shitty regimes and shitty leaders. Are they all up for grabs? Today Trump has announced the proceeds of the Venezuelan oil he has stolen will be used for the benefit of both the Venezuelan and American people. So openly selling another country’s assets to make the US richer. Oh, and he proudly announced there were no deaths on the American side - so fuck the Cubans and Venezuelans who died in his unlawful attack.

And now he’s openly going after Greenland. Today they have said that Denmark has no claim to Greenland and that it “should” belong to the US. They have said they need it strategically so they will have it. End of. They’ve pretty much said if they can’t get it peacefully, they’ll use military force to acquire it.

I suspect unless there’s really effective and smart diplomatic intervention somewhere Trump will attempt to go ahead. It’s become do high orofule it’s almost a matter of ego and pride for him now. Plus he’s emboldened by the fact that he’s gotten away with shafting Venezuela. I hope Denmark and Greenland tell him to fuck off.

I hope Europe is brave enough to stand up to him because he’s a dangerous man who doesn’t seem to have any sense. I can’t quite work out why those around him go along with it - do they share his absolutely insane vision? Or are they just giddy with the excitement of power? Vance was extremely critical of Trump before he became his running mate. I think he is the equivalent of Wes Streeting - a career politician who’s savvy enough to see which way the wind is blowing and has no scruples in changing direction to further his own career.

I don’t think Trump has any plans to step down when his term ends. He’s talked about changing the constitution to allow a third term. Scarily he’s also talked about banishing elections (see Project 2025). If Trump succeeds with Greenland, what next? Canada? I don’t think he’ll stop until he’s built an empire - I think he’s after oil and wealth, but I also think he wants to colonise the world. He’s drunk on his ego.

I worry that we’ve all trusted the US too much and are now toothless to stand up to it now Trump has gone rogue. I think China and Russia will rub their hands watching the west turn on itself.

I’m not a wild conspiracist usually but Trump’s behaviour is just sickening - and I really do mean that. I have no difficulty believing the very worst of him.

I also think that what him and his team are saying and doing is so outrageous that there shouldn’t be a political divide. I would have so much respect for Republicans who were honest enough to stand up and say “this isn’t what I voted for and it needs to stop”.

Presumably the action in Venezuela is about protecting American investments in oil. I would guess it was American money that was used to get the oil and maybe the Venezuelan government haven't stuck to the deal. America isn't going to care about the regime unless it goes against their interests.

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 07:18

mellongoose · 07/01/2026 06:08

I don’t disagree with the main thrust of opinion on this thread. However, the Arctic (and Antarctic) threat is real. Russia to the north and China to the south.

If we have to align with a US, Russian or Chinese sphere, I choose the US. It may feel a bit like Sophie’s Choice but this is where we are. He is playing their game.

You can chose who you like but the UK should align with Europe, no one else.

Russia is weak and just as crazed, China is not interested in a small Island 1000s of miles away, they need to keep their economy going... and USA is, well, events have shown what that means, we would be well and truly their lapdog and probably find ourselves with no influence over European policy let alone listened to by the yanks.

PinkHairbrushClub · 07/01/2026 07:26

It feels a little like a magic trick and Trump is waving threats to Greenland around to distract from what he’s really up to elsewhere.

If I’m right then the thing he’s up to elsewhere is really worrying. As distraction by threats that would end NATO if they came to fruition is insanity.

If I’m wrong then it’s still really worrying as if he is serious that’s a whole new ball game in international relations. As a PP said, there was a legal argument to be made for action in Venezuela, there is none for Greenland.

I’ve recently watched Nuremberg and been back refreshing some of my history of the rise of the Nazi regime. I wonder what social media / mumsnet would have looked like if it had been around in the UK reporting on news from Germany back then.

I hope Starmer and other world leaders are refreshing their memories too and remembering that appeasement doesn’t work. It would be good to see some sanctions at least if things continue to escalate. A statement that says we don’t stand with the US.

ZenZazie · 07/01/2026 07:32

I think there are a few things going on.

Trump is very buoyant after the Venezuela stunt and wants to maintain that feeling. I think in particular he was very excited by watching the live action events of the Venezuelan kidnapping and he wants to see the sequel, like it’s a movie or something.

He is doing badly at home- affordability is becoming a big issue in the US and it’s affecting his popularity. So this is a distraction.

This also blows all the lingering Epstein coverage off air.

Trump does want to go down as a president who vastly increased the teritory of the US. He loves the thought of himself as a real estate mogul par excellence. He has employed some very aggressive property acquisition techniques in business and sees this as an extension of that.

He is both transactional and vengeful. So he sees this as striking back at people who refused him and made fun of him when he offered to buy Greenland during his first presidency. He does like lashing out in retaliation.

There is the question of trade routes as well as mineral rights and military presence. As the polar ice cap melts new shipping routes become possible and profitable that far north. Not only would control of those routes be lucrative, those routes would also mean increased shipping from countries like China and Russia going closer to the US than the US is used to and they are wary of that.

He’s made quips about the Monroe doctrine along the lines of “many people are now calling it the Donroe doctrine”. He really is taking an expanded view of how much influence the US should have over the whole of the Americas, from northern most to southern most tips. I think there are a variety of factors in this. Firstly, given his transactional nature he wants to reward the Latino male vote who swing towards him, and things like threatening Cuba, weighing in Venezuela are both macho and please the ex-pats from those countries in particular and territorial expansion is also macho. I do think there are grandiose notions of building a US hinterland/empire all throughout the continents. And there’s also lashing back at Canada for the way Canada handled tariffs.

Similar to the growing awareness of the possibility of trade routes opening up as polar ice melts, I think there is also some notion that parts of the US will become less habitable as climate change progresses and so more territory might be necessary. I know he presents as a climate change denier but I think it’s just actually more that he just wants to keep making money/gaining power to be well placed to ride out and profit from the changes, and a front of denialism is the best route to that. There’s definitely something of reich and lebensraum over this whole thing I think.

To be honest if I was Iceland I’d be pretty worried by all this too. they are!’t far off the coast of Greenland.

I think a subsidiary consideration is wanting to exploit this for leverage in the Ukrainian situation. He knows that European/NATO countries are aware that in order to safeguard the assistance the US giving Ukraine and by extension Europe, they need not to piss him off by standing up to him too much over this. So he is looking to extract what value he can by having them between a rock and hard place. Either way he wins, he either gets Greenland or him gets to back out of Ukraine. At the very least he gets to see European leaders squirm, especially given the US’s insistence for many decades on military interiperability between NATO members, so effectively many forces cannot effectively operate independently of US command and it would take a long and expensive spell of rearmament for the European countries to get out of that bind. This whole situation puts more pressure on the political situation in many European countries individually and on European co-operation in many levels. And there are a lot of vested interests, from Russia to tech giants to Trump himself who would like to see Europe weak divided and fractious.

Anyway, that was a bit of a wall of text. But you get the gist.

SpringsOnTheWay · 07/01/2026 07:34

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/01/2026 03:14

President Zelensky of Ukraine would like to remind you that that's already the case.

oh I see that and maybe that’s partly why trumps view is the way it is because he can’t criticise that too much when he’s planning the same

ShesTheAlbatross · 07/01/2026 07:53

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 07/01/2026 03:13

If Trump thinks it's ok to waltz into other countries & take them over then I want the Eastern seaboard back in British hands.
Russia can have Alaska back & France can take back the territory they lost in the Louisiana Purchase as both countries were diddled when they sold the land.
Mexico too should take back the land they lost to the US in the 1850s.

All's fair in love & war.

I'd also like to ask Trump why he thinks Russia invading Ukraine is wrong considering Putin says it's for 'security', yet it's absolutely fine for the USA to invade Greenland for 'security'.

I don’t think that he does see Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as particularly wrong.

Genevieva · 07/01/2026 08:01

mellongoose · 07/01/2026 06:08

I don’t disagree with the main thrust of opinion on this thread. However, the Arctic (and Antarctic) threat is real. Russia to the north and China to the south.

If we have to align with a US, Russian or Chinese sphere, I choose the US. It may feel a bit like Sophie’s Choice but this is where we are. He is playing their game.

My husband had a similar conversation with an Aussie relative recently, who gets far too hot under the collar about issues that don’t affect Australia and Australia isn’t funding. The relative said Australians are turning away from the US because of Trump. My husband asked whether they were willing to face China alone in the event of an attack.

Bubblesoffun · 07/01/2026 08:02

TheMerryJoker · 06/01/2026 21:45

and thats bad because of ?

@TheMerryJoker
I want your house. I think I’ll just come and grab it off you, because I want it and all your stuff as well. I’ll just turn up on your doorstep and use take it off you.
That why it’s “bad”

Lemonfrost · 07/01/2026 08:07

CunningLinguist2 · 07/01/2026 00:10

Buying a country is just … nuts! Plus Greenland is not for fucking sale.

I know. My post was in direct response to a poster who asked why DT didn’t purchase Greenland.

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 08:08

Genevieva · 07/01/2026 08:01

My husband had a similar conversation with an Aussie relative recently, who gets far too hot under the collar about issues that don’t affect Australia and Australia isn’t funding. The relative said Australians are turning away from the US because of Trump. My husband asked whether they were willing to face China alone in the event of an attack.

Does your husband seriously think Trump would come to Australia's aid?

Because he would not, in such an unlikely event, Australia would find itself alone.

So there is no real reason to side with the US anymore.... people across the Western world need to wake up to the fact that "America First" means exactly that & given Trumps team around him, support this view, its unlikely that even if there is a change of President (Republican) then this wont change.

TomeletteswithGreggs · 07/01/2026 08:10

India is under threat from both China and Pakistan. Maybe they should invite Trump in. Oh wait, they don't have any oil.

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