Trump taking over Greenland?

[Cantonet]

Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

Trump vs The World

The earth was heating up before we used fossil fuels though?

Im sorry to tell you but China, Russia and the USA dont care about your green energy. And im afraid it will take much much longer before the world goes fully renewable.

Climate deniers are tiresome.

Do you also believe the earth is flat?

Why sorry to tell me ?

We need to go green asap. Planning for the arctic ice to melt does not sound a good idea. Couple of graphs pulled from the web. No citations etc, but you will be familiar with them. Bit of a gradient increase there.

China's emissions already appear to be dropping - years earlier than their 2030 target and despite a growing demand for energy - as a result of aggressive investment in green technology. They're doing their bit.

Russia - no. The US (under the current administration) - no.

China is the world leader in green technologies.

They are not dropping. It's something I follow.

Sorry for the state media link. Yes, it's propaganda: the Global Times is an organ of the CPC.

China will steadfastly strive to peak carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality before 2060: Chinese FM - Global Times

From that: "China will steadfastly strive to peak carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality before 2060, said Lin."

The CPC does invest massively in soft power, to get the perception out there that they are leaving other nations behind on green issues,

That article is from July 2025.

For sure they are doing a lot of renewables, but that is in addition to, not instead of.

..and India?
China produces green tech because its great for their economy, its a mixed picture, building coal powered power stations, also huge wind and solar farms too.
However, its all too late, holiday flight bookings from the UK at all time high's.. we simply do not want to change and neither does anyone else....

Airports the world over, are expanding.... Trump and all those global oil companies? all keen to produce more oil/gas, wherever they can find it and we will all buy their products....

We talk about climate change but much like taxes, we all want other people to pick up the tab....

Quote :" China produces green tech because its great for their economy, its a mixed picture, building coal powered power stations, also huge wind and solar farms too."

Indeed. And re the part bolded above, there is news about that come out just today. Hours ago.

China to adjust or cancel export tax rebates for photovoltaic and battery products - Global Times

PRC state media.

Green is good for the PRC economy because they set out to corner the market in it.

Back on subject. Sky news reports today ( 10th Jan 2026).

"The US is "going to do something on Greenland, whether they like it or not", Donald Trump has said."

Link here:

Trump says US will act on Greenland 'whether they like it or not' | US News | Sky News

So yeah. He aint backing down.

He hates NATO, can kill 2 birds with one stone here, get Greenland & get the US out of any NATO obligations.

The country that wins the green energy race will be the one on top....it's basic fundamental logic. Cheap energy and oil is expensive. What America is trying to do is steal oil from it's neighbours....that will backfire.

If Trump invades Greenland, it will be war. We will go to war with the yanks. That I know for sure.

The Americans think they are invincible but they won't be fighting untrained militants. Europeans have access to highest trained military in the world. So yes the Americans would win.....but that won't mean they walk away without significant casualties....and that is where congress would step in.

It may be time to consider closing all US bases across Europe and sending a lot of hardware to defend NATOs western front. If the yanks want to behave this way there has to be consequences. If it's war they understand then we have more than enough military power to make it difficult.

Some reports suggesting he may offer £100000 to each Greenlander to become American.

Theydon t want to be American - they want independence. So that is unlikely to work.

What comes after that ?

"Duke Nukem" is predictably unpredictable...

Yup. That might cover a medical bill or two, and send a kid to college.

Denmark of course has one of the best social systems in the world.

Would we lose, though? I keep seeing this, and I'm not convinced it would be that clear-cut, unless I'm missing something?

I get that the US has the biggest, singular armed forces in the world, but they wouldn't be fighting a single army. They'd be fighting the EU, which includes other powerful armies such as France, Italy, and Germany.

I wouldn't rule out the UK not joining in some description, given our proximity to the EU and working relationship with them, plus the damage to our economy and EU relationship if we refused to help if asked.

And then there is Turkey, who have a reasonably powerful, well-funded, and well-trained military. They're a close ally of the EU and could use cooperation in defending Greenland to strengthen their chances of becoming a member. I'd put money on them offering to help if it came down to it.

Individually, the US would decimate each of these forces, but when combined, I'm not so sure that they wouldn't have enough manpower, hardware, and funding to easily defend against the US.

I'm doubtful it would come to this, not 100% sure it won't, but hopefully optimistic that even Trump is not insane enough to risk the destruction of Nato and war with the EU over a country he already has access to. If it turns out he is, I am 100% convinced it will be the start of WW3.

During the Iraq war, ordinary Americans signed up to fight. Bil was in the British army. I'm not so sure the Brits would volunteer to bear arms. Neither would we be as expert with firearms as the Americans. Americans are very patriotic. How sure are you our fit and able would want to die for this country? I'm not sure I would want to die for this place any more.

What ever is going to pan out will pan out. Fretting about it isn't changing that. I'm living my life ( with very raised eyebrows)

Just as an example, the Canadians and Finnish would both sign up. They also know how to handle firearms (there are 2.4 million registered firearms holders in Canada and 12-15% of Finns are) and both have a history of not only arctic warfare but also a history of the best snipers in the world. In cold weather.

America could take any one of the countries. Holding them without unimaginable pain… I don’t think so. Do they want another Vietnam or Afghanistan? They don’t have the appetite.

IMO the outcome for Greenland should be determined by Greenlanders themselves.

Currently 85% would prefer independence but they recognise that economically Greenland will struggle but that in a few years they should be economically viable.

Denmark has not exactly behaved as a benevolent colonial power either:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1wlw2qj113o.amp

The UK has 137k full time regular military members now.

Germany 182k

Denmark 7-9k

France 200k

Belgium 30k

Greece 143k

Turkey 450k

Etc

There is no need for a Kitchener style call to arms, The forces already exist. And Because of Nato, the different nations forces compliment each other, train together, and already work together.

One of our carriers recently done a cruise to the far east. It's battle group was mostly allies. And we all went there via Australia, to train with them.

If Trump wants the US to leave the allies and NATO, then he also loses his allies and NATO. When the US captured that tanker in the North Atlantic this week, that was with UK forces. Trump might not admit it, but the US does need allies. We all do.

Only 6% want to become American.

And frankly why would they.
Why give up:

• relative autonomy (compared with what they'd get)
• no possibility of independence - Denmark have said they'll respect the wishes of the people, the issue is subsidies. Behind American and say goodbye to the dream of independence forever.
• free university
• excellent universal healthcare
• maternity and paternity benefits
• other benefits which no doubt exist currently which wouldn't if they were American.
• their culture - it's not like America has got good form for preserving indigenous cultures rather than rampant Americanisation
• their environment, the abuse of which is the main reason behind this whole diabolical affair (it's not security as Denmark being in NATO gives that anyway).

It doesn't matter if USA offers $100k, $1m or $10m each, to destroy their culture for all future generations wouldn't be worth it.

The yanks would destroy Greenland, the interest is oil and rare earths.

Well that should be for the Greenlanders to decide.

But I do think that if the US offered every UK citizen a £100k cheque if they voted to become part of the US then there would be a very large number of people whistling Yankee Doodle dandy as they sauntered back from the bank. Culture, environment and history are fine things but they don't put food on the table.

Neither would we be as expert with firearms as the Americans.

Courtesy of the 1997 legislation banning private pistol ownership outwith Northern Ireland, I've not been shooting in nearly three decades. I might be a tad rusty, but at least I have some experience. An entire generation of urban children has grown up without access to relatively-inexpensive inner-city indoor shooting ranges. These ranges were doing a lot to make target shooting, with its attendant safe handling training, accessible to that demographic. That's an entire generation of urban kids who have never handled a firearm unless they are already involved in criminality. They won't be anything like as well-trained as the Americans.

I'm not sure I would want to die for this place any more.

To quote US General George Patton: "No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country." The question isn't really whether you are willing to die, but whether you are willing to kill. It must an awful position to be put in, especially when you know that the person you are killing is probably a conscript.

Courtesy of said legislation amongst many other reasons, I'm not willing to kill or die for this place. If the Govt are going to stop me and thousands like me from having pistols because I might shoot someone, but will then completely hypocritically issue me with firearms so that I can shoot someone, they can put me in jail instead.

I wouldn't take the money. £100,000 won't cover your medical bills if you get something really nasty, like cancer.