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Trump taking over Greenland?

405 replies

Cantonet · 06/01/2026 10:50

Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

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Bubblesoffun · 07/01/2026 19:17

Cantonet · 07/01/2026 18:08

Nancy Pelosi has just said she reckons he wants Greenland as a gift for his mate Putin. They've come to some arrangement.

More likely Putin has something over Trump (Epstein) etc and is blackmailing him.

TheMerryJoker · 07/01/2026 19:35

CrapNewYear · 07/01/2026 10:17

Jesus fucking wept.

"Indeed, the meek shall inherit the earth" (Matthew 5:5) and (Psalm 37:11),

StrikeForever · 07/01/2026 19:35

SelfRaisingFlour · 07/01/2026 16:22

The Rest is Classified podcast did a very good episode about 6 months ago on why the US wants Greenland. There are perfectly sane reasons.

The US bought Alaska and the UK bought a 99 year lease on Hong Kong so I guess it could be done that way rather than militarily.

They (the US) had 17 military bases on Greenland and closed 16 of them. They have been given free rein to have any military they wish to base there. Therefore, the only reason they want it as US territory is for its rare earth minerals.

BloominNora · 07/01/2026 19:37

Bubblesoffun · 07/01/2026 19:17

More likely Putin has something over Trump (Epstein) etc and is blackmailing him.

Project 2025 pretty clearly lays it out:

Project 2025 - Page 190

The U.S. should unapologetically pursue American interests in the Arctic by promoting economic freedom in the region. Economic freedom spurs prosperity, innovation, respect for the rule of law, jobs, and sustainability. Most important, economic freedom can help to keep the Arctic stable and secure.

The U.S. should work to ensure that shipping lanes in the Arctic remain available to all global commercial traffic and free of onerous fees and burdensome administrative, regulatory, and military requirements. While this should be the next Administration’s policy with respect to all countries that might seek to block free-flowing commercial traffic, the next Administration will clearly have to exert substantial attention toward Russia.

Both the U.S. Coast Guard and the U.S. Navy are vital tools to ensure an unmonopolized Arctic. It is imperative that the Navy and Coast Guard continue to expand their fleets, including planned icebreaker acquisitions, to assure Arctic access for the United States and other friendly actors. The remote and harsh conditions of the Arctic also make unmanned system investment and use particularly appealing for providing additional situational awareness, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. The Coast Guard should also consider upgrading facilities, such as its Barrow station, to reinforce its Arctic capabilities and demonstrate a greater commitment to the region.

The People’s Republic of China has declared itself a “near-Arctic state,” which is an imaginary term non-existent in international discourse. The United States should work with like-minded Arctic nations, including Russia, to raise legitimate concerns about the PRC’s so-called Polar Silk-Road ambitions.

Concerning Greenland, the opening of a U.S. consulate in Nuuk is welcome. A formal year-round diplomatic presence is an effective way for the U.S. to better understand local political and economic dynamics. Furthermore, given Greenland’s geographic proximity and its rising potential as a commercial and tourist location, the next Administration should pursue policies that enhance economic ties between the U.S. and Greenland.

We can clearly see what 'economic freedom' and 'economic ties' looks like to the current US administration via the tariffs, Venezuelan oil grab and the proposed Gazan and Ukranian peace deals! There is absolutely no freedom to be seen for anyone but the US, Russia and Israel in any of them!

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 20:07

SelfRaisingFlour · 07/01/2026 16:22

The Rest is Classified podcast did a very good episode about 6 months ago on why the US wants Greenland. There are perfectly sane reasons.

The US bought Alaska and the UK bought a 99 year lease on Hong Kong so I guess it could be done that way rather than militarily.

Both the purchase and the lease happened in 1867 and 1898 respectively. I don't know but are countries keen on being purchased these days!

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 20:19

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 20:07

Both the purchase and the lease happened in 1867 and 1898 respectively. I don't know but are countries keen on being purchased these days!

Also HK was the resolution to the Opium Wars. Is forcing another country to buy harmful drugs on the table as well.

<cough> Sacklers <cough>

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 20:26

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 20:19

Also HK was the resolution to the Opium Wars. Is forcing another country to buy harmful drugs on the table as well.

<cough> Sacklers <cough>

Yes, such progressive solutions, perhaps they could also Insist on YMCA as that national anthem!

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 20:27

Goldenbear · 07/01/2026 20:26

Yes, such progressive solutions, perhaps they could also Insist on YMCA as that national anthem!

The not "that".

GCSEBiostruggles · 07/01/2026 20:41

BloominNora · 07/01/2026 19:37

Project 2025 pretty clearly lays it out:

Project 2025 - Page 190

The U.S. should unapologetically pursue American interests in the Arctic by promoting economic freedom in the region. Economic freedom spurs prosperity, innovation, respect for the rule of law, jobs, and sustainability. Most important, economic freedom can help to keep the Arctic stable and secure.

The U.S. should work to ensure that shipping lanes in the Arctic remain available to all global commercial traffic and free of onerous fees and burdensome administrative, regulatory, and military requirements. While this should be the next Administration’s policy with respect to all countries that might seek to block free-flowing commercial traffic, the next Administration will clearly have to exert substantial attention toward Russia.

Both the U.S. Coast Guard and the U.S. Navy are vital tools to ensure an unmonopolized Arctic. It is imperative that the Navy and Coast Guard continue to expand their fleets, including planned icebreaker acquisitions, to assure Arctic access for the United States and other friendly actors. The remote and harsh conditions of the Arctic also make unmanned system investment and use particularly appealing for providing additional situational awareness, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. The Coast Guard should also consider upgrading facilities, such as its Barrow station, to reinforce its Arctic capabilities and demonstrate a greater commitment to the region.

The People’s Republic of China has declared itself a “near-Arctic state,” which is an imaginary term non-existent in international discourse. The United States should work with like-minded Arctic nations, including Russia, to raise legitimate concerns about the PRC’s so-called Polar Silk-Road ambitions.

Concerning Greenland, the opening of a U.S. consulate in Nuuk is welcome. A formal year-round diplomatic presence is an effective way for the U.S. to better understand local political and economic dynamics. Furthermore, given Greenland’s geographic proximity and its rising potential as a commercial and tourist location, the next Administration should pursue policies that enhance economic ties between the U.S. and Greenland.

We can clearly see what 'economic freedom' and 'economic ties' looks like to the current US administration via the tariffs, Venezuelan oil grab and the proposed Gazan and Ukranian peace deals! There is absolutely no freedom to be seen for anyone but the US, Russia and Israel in any of them!

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One of the worrying things about this is that the global warming will actually enable this. Perhaps just one of the reasons Trump is still wanging on about it all being fake.

dwordle · 07/01/2026 22:18

When you consider that if these land based Ice sheets melt it will increase sea levels by 90m. If that isn't a warning of impending catastrophe then I'm lost for words. London gone, New York Gone, Holland Gone, Norfolk gone, the list is endless.

And they argue we can not afford to abandon fossil fuels.

The world needs a wake up call

joeninetey · 07/01/2026 22:22

I'm sure I don't know how the US system of government works, any government come to that, but can Trump just do as he pleases, with no intervention from the senate, no voting on his policies or guidance ? Is he therefore just another all powerful dictator, that can do whatever he sees fit to do ?.......Surely not ?

user112256479 · 07/01/2026 22:24

PBS News: The Trump administration plans to put money raised from seizure of Venezuelan oil into bank accounts outside the U.S. Treasury -- they told lawmakers today per multiple sources familiar. Sources said they understood these as similar or decidedly "off-shore" accounts.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/01/2026 22:30

joeninetey · 07/01/2026 22:22

I'm sure I don't know how the US system of government works, any government come to that, but can Trump just do as he pleases, with no intervention from the senate, no voting on his policies or guidance ? Is he therefore just another all powerful dictator, that can do whatever he sees fit to do ?.......Surely not ?

There are many checks and balances in the US government. Unfortunately they require Congress, the Senate, and/or the Supreme Court to stand up and and do something. All three of those - and the Supreme Court in particular - have been stuffed with MAGA supporters so they're simply standing aside while Trump rides roughshod over the law.

RedTagAlan · 08/01/2026 04:28

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/01/2026 22:30

There are many checks and balances in the US government. Unfortunately they require Congress, the Senate, and/or the Supreme Court to stand up and and do something. All three of those - and the Supreme Court in particular - have been stuffed with MAGA supporters so they're simply standing aside while Trump rides roughshod over the law.

Yeah, the US has been bleating on about it's checks and balances for ages, but it turns out it was all a sham. The whole thing depended on people with honour and decent morals being in power.

The whole concept of checks and balances is gone now. And given how it is now practically impossible to get a constitutional change, it is only going to get worse.

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 06:25

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/01/2026 22:30

There are many checks and balances in the US government. Unfortunately they require Congress, the Senate, and/or the Supreme Court to stand up and and do something. All three of those - and the Supreme Court in particular - have been stuffed with MAGA supporters so they're simply standing aside while Trump rides roughshod over the law.

So there aren't any "checks and balances" then, not a single one.

If these rely on people actually doing their job and they have the option not too, then they don't exist.

Trump has figured this out, i suspect that IF we get Farage, we'll find out we haven't any either.

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 06:30

dwordle · 07/01/2026 22:18

When you consider that if these land based Ice sheets melt it will increase sea levels by 90m. If that isn't a warning of impending catastrophe then I'm lost for words. London gone, New York Gone, Holland Gone, Norfolk gone, the list is endless.

And they argue we can not afford to abandon fossil fuels.

The world needs a wake up call

That ship has sailed.

Nothing we do can prevent any "climate change" everyone things money will save them from whats coming.

I include the general populations in that too, none of us truly care enough to alter behaviours, all too busy booking our next holiday.

Air travel is set to literally rocket over the next decade.

dwordle · 08/01/2026 09:40

Thats the point, if we lose the battle to halt or slow global warming....no one will be going on holiday. That's what scientists are warning about....the cost of land based ice sheets melting are so huge that feeding your family will be impossible let alone foreign holidays.

We ain't talking about sea ice here, this is Antarctica and Greenland....free of ice...that's the end of days for planet earth and most life.

We have been working on calculations that have assumed the retreat of ice at a certain rate. Unfortunately this is happening a lot quicker because we are using more not less fossil fuels.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/01/2026 12:41

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 12:46

We have always had autonomy over matters of defence and national security.... hence NI/IRA, the Falklands, Iraq (twice) Afghanistan.

Why do people believe this twaddle from the pro Brexit camp?

Because, often, they’re not very bright.

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:04

dwordle · 07/01/2026 22:18

When you consider that if these land based Ice sheets melt it will increase sea levels by 90m. If that isn't a warning of impending catastrophe then I'm lost for words. London gone, New York Gone, Holland Gone, Norfolk gone, the list is endless.

And they argue we can not afford to abandon fossil fuels.

The world needs a wake up call

This will take thousands of years. At the minute by 2100 the world's oceans will rise by 0.3 to 1 meter. We have plenty of time to get things straight. We have technically just came out of an ice age so global warming is expected.

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:10

Britain's energy prices are some of the highest in the world because of our quest to get towards net 0. While I think its right thing to do and another example of Great Britain leading the world what's the point when China adds the uks emissions ontop of its existing emissions year on year. Just saying. Also you wont be eating any food if you support a farm tax or allow the population to carry on increasing because houses need land to be built on meaning less and less farm land.

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:14

StrikeForever · 07/01/2026 19:35

They (the US) had 17 military bases on Greenland and closed 16 of them. They have been given free rein to have any military they wish to base there. Therefore, the only reason they want it as US territory is for its rare earth minerals.

Its for access to the north pole when ice starts to melt. The north pole could hold one of the largest oil reserves in the world, just like Venezuela, it will make the u.s extremely rich. Trump is a great leader of the u.s but a bad one when it comes to the free world, his people will be rolling in it.

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Oh ye also the u.s will have control of one of the major shipping lanes once ice starts to melt making other shipping lanes obsolete.

RedTagAlan · 09/01/2026 05:06

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:04

This will take thousands of years. At the minute by 2100 the world's oceans will rise by 0.3 to 1 meter. We have plenty of time to get things straight. We have technically just came out of an ice age so global warming is expected.

Only 1m by 2100 ? That's ok then. Unless you live in the areas marked red on the map below. And that's the UK. Likes of Bangladesh will see 13 million people with nowhere to live, because much of that country will be gone.

And no, we don't really have time to get things straight. Climate change is not reversable. We are already in a runaway scenario. That is why the climate deals aim to reduce it. Because we can't reverse it.

The Arctic ice is a massive reflector. It reflects much of the suns 100W per sqr meter energy back into space. If we lose the ice caps temperature rise will accelerate. Vast areas will become uninhabitable to humans.

And no, climate change is not due to the ice age. Ice ages take tens of thousands of years , not a few decades. The link between human activity and climate change is 100% proven.

Areas of Australia are on fire just now.

Millions of Australians at risk of catastrophic urban bushfires, experts warn | 7NEWS

We do not want the Arctic ice to melt.

Trump taking over Greenland?
dwordle · 09/01/2026 06:24

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:04

This will take thousands of years. At the minute by 2100 the world's oceans will rise by 0.3 to 1 meter. We have plenty of time to get things straight. We have technically just came out of an ice age so global warming is expected.

Which is not correct, we should be in a cooling period and we know this because of sun spots and the position of our magnetic field...so right now we should be cooling.....so the fact the earth is warming at an alarming rate is something we need to pay attention to now.

Trump calling it a scam is very unhelpful. Let me put it this way once the costs bite which they already are people are going to take to the streets. As soon as people can't afford food you watch.

An American general was talking about global warming yesterday and how it was allowing ships to use the Arctic for more of the year and poses a risk to the United States.....so you have a president telling it's people global warming is a hoax and a top American general talking about the consequences of global warming

Taking off the reigns for oil is a grave mistake and very irresponsible.

StrikeForever · 09/01/2026 11:07

Wizeman · 09/01/2026 01:14

Its for access to the north pole when ice starts to melt. The north pole could hold one of the largest oil reserves in the world, just like Venezuela, it will make the u.s extremely rich. Trump is a great leader of the u.s but a bad one when it comes to the free world, his people will be rolling in it.

Edited.

Oh ye also the u.s will have control of one of the major shipping lanes once ice starts to melt making other shipping lanes obsolete.

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Bastards 😡

DrBlackbird · 09/01/2026 12:14

The Artic is one reason Trump wants Canada as his 51st state. Physically it’s contiguous with Canada so Canada has a legal right to it but Russia and America want to claim it. China also inserting itself into the claims. All a huge mess. Thanks to global warming. When it was frozen over, only the Inuit and polar bears cared about it.

https://www.ft.com/content/ee125c55-8d2d-4a1f-a42a-3ac6f0a8ed16

ras-nsa.ca/sovereignty-and-security-in-the-canadian-arctic-who-should-we-be-wary-of/

Canada fears conflict in the Arctic after Trump threats to Greenland

US policy of regional domination greeted with alarm by northern neighbour

https://www.ft.com/content/ee125c55-8d2d-4a1f-a42a-3ac6f0a8ed16