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Trump taking over Greenland?

405 replies

Cantonet · 06/01/2026 10:50

Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

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SelfRaisingFlour · 07/01/2026 16:22

The Rest is Classified podcast did a very good episode about 6 months ago on why the US wants Greenland. There are perfectly sane reasons.

The US bought Alaska and the UK bought a 99 year lease on Hong Kong so I guess it could be done that way rather than militarily.

Carycach4 · 07/01/2026 16:33

Merlinis · 06/01/2026 20:22

I don’t understand why they don’t just ask Greenland for whatever they want nicely and pay for it?

So if he asked if could buy England, you would be fine with her being sold to America?

RedTagAlan · 07/01/2026 16:42

Carycach4 · 07/01/2026 16:33

So if he asked if could buy England, you would be fine with her being sold to America?

Scottish person here.

Hmmmmm.

:-)

LoisGriffinskitchen · 07/01/2026 16:45

He’s clinically insane and has fronto-temporal dementia (which is more and more obvious by the day). He’s not in charge, he just thinks he is, he’s a useful idiot being used by enablers. High time he had a fatal heart attack and took the great Hellevator down to where he belongs.

Trump is a disgusting and hateful human being. That goes for anyone here defending him, because if you are then you are revolting too.

HappyFace2025 · 07/01/2026 16:57

Carycach4 · 07/01/2026 16:33

So if he asked if could buy England, you would be fine with her being sold to America?

I often wonder if Farage would sell the UK to the US if he got Megabucks for it ...

HappyFace2025 · 07/01/2026 16:59

LoisGriffinskitchen · 07/01/2026 16:45

He’s clinically insane and has fronto-temporal dementia (which is more and more obvious by the day). He’s not in charge, he just thinks he is, he’s a useful idiot being used by enablers. High time he had a fatal heart attack and took the great Hellevator down to where he belongs.

Trump is a disgusting and hateful human being. That goes for anyone here defending him, because if you are then you are revolting too.

Be careful what you wish for. Vance has already shown he is no friend of ours nor of Europe.

LoisGriffinskitchen · 07/01/2026 17:03

Oh I have no faith in any of them …I’ve no doubt we are headed for war. Doesn’t mean I have to have a good opinion of them . They are disgusting human beings (and barely deserve that title) . If hell exists they are all headed there.

However we all know hell does not exist so I can only wish revolting deaths on all of them.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 17:10

OK just so we have a list.

Piracy (oil ships)
Murder (the men they shot in the water) OR
War crimes (depending on how you define the above)
Illegal invasion
Covering up sex trafficking of children
Kidnapping (ICE taking citizens)
Illegal deportation without due process
Insurrection (just went past the anniversary)
Threats to kill (ex-servicemen and members of congress)

The rule of law is now meaningless in the US. So just taking Greenland won’t be an issue. There is nothing stopping them.

SeekOIt · 07/01/2026 17:42

LoisGriffinskitchen · 07/01/2026 16:45

He’s clinically insane and has fronto-temporal dementia (which is more and more obvious by the day). He’s not in charge, he just thinks he is, he’s a useful idiot being used by enablers. High time he had a fatal heart attack and took the great Hellevator down to where he belongs.

Trump is a disgusting and hateful human being. That goes for anyone here defending him, because if you are then you are revolting too.

You're not quite right, are you? The only disgusting and hateful person right now is you, saying what you said.

SeekOIt · 07/01/2026 17:43

anotherside · 07/01/2026 10:18

Trump is a wanker.

Erm....ok.

Thoseslippers · 07/01/2026 17:45

suburberphobe · 06/01/2026 21:27

Europe might turn against the US..

You must be very young....

US saved Europe from the Nazis. (My parents went through it).

Anyway, this is about Greenland. Trump is scary and off his rocker

Russia saved Europe from the Nazis let's be honest. It always irritates me when people conveniently forget that

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 17:46

LoisGriffinskitchen · 07/01/2026 16:45

He’s clinically insane and has fronto-temporal dementia (which is more and more obvious by the day). He’s not in charge, he just thinks he is, he’s a useful idiot being used by enablers. High time he had a fatal heart attack and took the great Hellevator down to where he belongs.

Trump is a disgusting and hateful human being. That goes for anyone here defending him, because if you are then you are revolting too.

TBH You re right, he is an awful person... Remember "Grab em by the Pussy" he was involved with Epstein, up to his neck.

We all hate Andrew but many are ok with Trump.....

So for that reason alone, i agree with you.

Beentheredonethat98 · 07/01/2026 17:49

BloominNora · 07/01/2026 12:39

It is true, we haven't invested in our defence enough but the rest of your post is utter tosh!

Our children do not believe their countries are evil monsters - but European countries have experienced the horrors of war in a way that the US never have which means we have a genetic and cultural memory which makes us naturally adverse to ever wanting to experience that again.

The horrors of the first and second world wars are the reason European nations have been so focussed on setting up things like the EU and NATO and trying to prevent the descent into war again. Its why our response to Russia's annexing of Crimea was so weak and why we were so willing to adhere to article 5 when it was triggered by the US.

The US have never experienced war like Europe has on their own soil. The US public are told that things like Pearl Harbour and 9/11 are attacks that are worse than anyone has ever faced - but Europe faced that sort of devastation day in, day out for years.

You talk about Europe not being able to defend itself and that soft power is worthless. But soft power does work. When soft power fails, there are two major instruments countries have at their disposal to truly defend themselves - nuclear weapons and NATO Article 5

I find it incredibly ironic that you think that soft power is so worthless when the only country that has ever needed to invoke those contingencies is the US!

European nations have not been collective protagonists in any major wars since WW2 - our involvement in the Middle East was largely as a result of the US triggering Article 5. The only reason we have achieved that is through understanding and deploying soft power effectively.

The architects of the current political landscape in the US have been very shocked about how difficult it has been to infiltrate Europe with their ways of thinking, but it is because they don't understand the impact of our history on our cultural psyche and resilience.

It will be that cultural resilience which means that while European nations may lose initially in any military arms based war against Russia or god forbid, against the US directly, long term, they won't break - much the same way they Vietnamese didn't.

Anyone who believes UK involvement in the Middle East was a result of the US triggering Article 5 has either a dubious grasp of geography or of history or of both.

Afghanistan is at the crossroads between Central and South Asia.

The US did not trigger Article 5 in the Middle East.

Thoseslippers · 07/01/2026 17:50

What i really bloody hate is that due to brexit we are now trapped here, unless we are particularly wealthy or have duel nationality or something.
I'd honestly want to leave the UK if it ties itself further with the US. I even own a family home in a European country.. but due to Brexit I can't live there because I can't get a work visa! I dont have enough savings to declare myself financially independent either so I can only stay in my house 7 months out of the year or something.
If Starmer doesn't defend Greenland and NATO I no longer want to be British because its disgusting. But unfortunately we have no choice despite the braying of the idiots 'just leave if you dont like it!'

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 17:53

Thoseslippers · 07/01/2026 17:45

Russia saved Europe from the Nazis let's be honest. It always irritates me when people conveniently forget that

Well, thats not entire correct, they kept pushing further and further West, as fast as they could.

Their aims weren't to save Europe but to occupy it. .. and they carried on doing that long after WW2 ended.

They had no historic claim to Germany, didn't stop them effectively holding 1/2 of it... took over countries in Eastern Europe in the 50s and 60s too.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 17:54

SeekOIt · 07/01/2026 09:52

I don't think he will take it over, he's just using the threat to secure a deal on other proposals that he will make to them.

This attitude fascinates me.

You’re saying that he is a liar. A manipulative liar.

But you’re also saying it’s OK to threaten sovereign nations and NATO to get what you want.

I cannot fathom supporting a manipulative, lying, threatening, conniving bully. And saying that it’s OK becasue he won’t really do what he says he will do. Your standards for public service are in the toilet.

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2026 17:54

Beentheredonethat98 · 07/01/2026 17:49

Anyone who believes UK involvement in the Middle East was a result of the US triggering Article 5 has either a dubious grasp of geography or of history or of both.

Afghanistan is at the crossroads between Central and South Asia.

The US did not trigger Article 5 in the Middle East.

NATO triggered art 5 on behalf of the US in a show of support after 9/11

SeekOIt · 07/01/2026 18:00

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 17:54

This attitude fascinates me.

You’re saying that he is a liar. A manipulative liar.

But you’re also saying it’s OK to threaten sovereign nations and NATO to get what you want.

I cannot fathom supporting a manipulative, lying, threatening, conniving bully. And saying that it’s OK becasue he won’t really do what he says he will do. Your standards for public service are in the toilet.

What...? I assume you've quoted the wrong posted or are under the influence of something, because I didnt even slightly allude to most of what you've said that I said. Where on earth are you getting this? Bizarre.

Cantonet · 07/01/2026 18:08

Nancy Pelosi has just said she reckons he wants Greenland as a gift for his mate Putin. They've come to some arrangement.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2026 18:12

SeekOIt · 07/01/2026 18:00

What...? I assume you've quoted the wrong posted or are under the influence of something, because I didnt even slightly allude to most of what you've said that I said. Where on earth are you getting this? Bizarre.

Yes, you did.

nearlylovemyusername · 07/01/2026 18:25

Orangemintcream · 06/01/2026 12:17

I’m not sure there’s a lot anyone could do about it. Unfortunately the USA has one of the largest most powerful technologically advanced military forces in the world.

They know they ca do what they like. It would be a gift to Putin if NATO countries start fighting each other.

Honestly it might start WW3 - or he might get away with it and just get a firm telling off.

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There is a simple solution which Europe could implement - a proper Digital Service Tax and ban of social media for under 18 like in Aus.
Hit magnificent seven hard. Yes, there would be retaliation and tariffs, but their impact would be compensated by money stream (flood) from Musk, Zuckerberg etc. And they'd then remove Trump pronto.
Oh, and reducing SM use would do a lot of good to public's MH.

nearlylovemyusername · 07/01/2026 18:33

Thoseslippers · 07/01/2026 17:45

Russia saved Europe from the Nazis let's be honest. It always irritates me when people conveniently forget that

They didn't. They threw 20mn people at Nazi to defend own territory but then marched to occupy half of Europe. Those who lived in Eastern Europe under control of USSR would struggle to say who were the worst, Russians or Germans.

No wonder those "saved" countries, like Baltics, Poland etc, do the most to support Ukraine, they still remember their savior...

BloominNora · 07/01/2026 18:39

Beentheredonethat98 · 07/01/2026 17:49

Anyone who believes UK involvement in the Middle East was a result of the US triggering Article 5 has either a dubious grasp of geography or of history or of both.

Afghanistan is at the crossroads between Central and South Asia.

The US did not trigger Article 5 in the Middle East.

The post your are replying to was talking about European collective involvements, not the UK individually: European nations have not been collective protagonists in any major wars since WW2 - our involvement in the Middle East was largely as a result of the US triggering Article 5.

And no, the US did not publically ask to trigger article 5 but they were the beneficiary of it when NATO invoked it on their behalf after 9/11 and if you think that wasn't done in agreement and likely as a result of US diplomatic pressure behind the scenes, then you need to understand more about how geopolitics is handled outside of the public eye.

That triggering of article 5, the only time it has ever happened, was the opening salvo of the war on terror.

The US chose not to take full benefit of NATO command in their response opting instead to lead the 'coalition of the willing' which also included non-NATO countries because they believed it to be less restrictive (and they are control freaks).

Even though they didn't go for centralised NATO command until 2003 when they wanted to switch their focus to Iraq, the triggering of article 5 did provide them with a lot of additional support and resources including domestic and foreign surveillance and maritime patrols that they wouldn't necessarily have got otherwise.

The 2003 invasion of Iraq was not directly related to the article five invocation and many NATO nations, including, most famously France, but also Germany, who refused to take part, so therefore can't be classed as collective action by European nations.

And yes, Afghanistan is not part of the Middle East in pure geographic terms, but it was included as part of the 'Greater Middle East' in geopolitical terms after 9/11 by the US. It has become synonymous with the region in wider geopolitics, which along with sharing the similar developmental challenges and culture with the geographical middle east, led to the World Bank reclassifying Afghanistan and Pakistan as MENA (now MENAAP) for administrative purposes last year.

BreakingBroken · 07/01/2026 19:08

Not just the Bella 1 but also a second ship as well. Two in one day, although there are between 1-2000 creepy crawly illegal vessels.