Rachel Reeves - potential successor?

[GroundZero]

Apparently, the Tories have launched a petition www.sackreeves.com urging the PM to sack the Chancellor, after she was accused of misleading the public over the state of the UK’s finances.

If she is sacked, who could/should replace her?

I agree. I was pretty dismal
about Reeves but I assumed she had been caught by her initial over-promising and then trapped by her back-benchers.

Lying about the OBR position to justify her choices on something as material as this, makes me reevaluate entirely.

She wasn’t caught in a lie by a surprise interview question, it was the core justification for a major announcement she made of her own will on TV and to parliament. And it was false.

To me that crosses a line into resignation territory.

Also, talking about the shrinking headroom and the black hole and tough choices on tax has itself caused economic damage. Causing economic damage by being truthfully negative is one thing (still unwise for a chancellor), to do it on a falsehood is wilful economic vandalism.

Can you spell out the rationale/arithmetic there?

The taxpayer is on the hook for scrapping the two child limit and rightly so as it was never justified and was political theatre from Osborne.

The min wage isn't paid by the government except for its own employees/contractors.

I don't think there will be a vacancy for a while. Other than his or her constituents and political nerds, I doubt that whoever ends up as Chancellor will be well known to many people. John Major was not when he became Chancellor, neither was Alistair Darling, or indeed Rishi Sunak.

'SackReeves.com' is that all the Conservatives have got..how about some real suggestions as to how they might fund the NHS, Defence and bring children out of poverty...Also so much poorly informed posting on MN just a lot of 'opinion', bits of information from twitter..and labour bashing (inter -dispersed with posters who earn a wage by posting this stuff).

Despite what the chancellor’s supporters on MN believe, this is quite a serious matter, sanctioned by the government. So it wasn’t just Rachel Reeves.

Serious enough for the OBR to expose them!

Will she take the hit? With this government I doubt it.

The Tories have stated policies - they are evidently on their website.

Posters ‘earn a wage by posting’? Really? I have not seen that.

Agreed.

How much more deceit must the electorate be forced to take?

You do know what "her background in economics" actually entailed?

She literally lied on her cv / LinkedIn profile - she was in customer complaints.

She has about as much experience as my DS23 - well actually he has more because he has an economic degree and real life work experience already.

In any other arena, or business, you would be fired immediately if you had lied to such an extent

I cannot imagine a scenario when I was presenting to clients (us, the citizens in this case) and I completely fabricated figures to get a deal through where I would not be dismissed immediately

Absolutely the same in my sector - finance.

Are you happy she fabricated figures to raise taxes? That is ok with you?

It matters not one bit where she is spending the money - "raising children out of poverty". It doesn't matter, she fabricated a situation to get that money. That is 100% wrong.

He is more than "in the wings" at this point. RR is merely a figurehead. This budget was a Resolution Foundation budget that she merely delivered.

Yes they do earn money. New 'transparency features' have exposed this (not specifically on this site, but I doubt MN is immune!).

Posters operate overseas (usually from the global south) and make money by posting right wing content, specifically targeting the people of the UK and US. Apparently, it has something to do with the fact we're very politically illiterate! I'm not sure how they make money from it though, but they do.

If you are so politically informed what are these policies? Or Reform policies?

Reform? No idea - why the obsession with Reform?
As to Tories policies, would you like me to send you the link?

And…..back to the thread topic. What’s your view?

Interesting.

I just wondered how you would know, for certain.

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks

At this point right now, it doesn’t really matter what the policies are of other parties.
It’s really a matter of whether you are ok with having a repeated provable liar of quite extraordinary levels in charge of the country’s finances. Are you?

Yep

Well said.

You mean like we had under Boris Johnson?

Why? There’s not many left who are, maybe a few public sector or ex that.

How did politics come to this & why are you following like a sheep? The Tories need to take a long look at themselves & why we’re in this mess. Kemi served in government so she cannot absolve herself of blame.

Boris is gone, and has nothing to do with this (although he did actually resign over a piece of cake if you remember?)

See if you can answer the question - are you happy that even though it’s clear RR raised taxes by lying, she’s still good for the job?

@hamstersarse, yes we need to move on from this “well the tories did worse”.

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks, in this present time, our current government have been exposed in a lie. Let’s discuss this!

Unite always argues with Labour. It’s not an easy relationship.