Is Trump dead?

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This news is apparently trending…

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He also likes his steaks "very well done".

Heathen!

Sorry, my posts keep double posting every now and again. No idea why.

I dont think so. If he did, he'd be dead by now.
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But I think he likes the Legend and plays along.

Hope so

He was recorded at his pre-trial New York booking as 240 lbs, 17 stones plus. His 'official' weight is lower.

I think other presidents have attacked the democracy America wants to symbolise. They have tried to subvert the rules by which they were elected, they have initiated bloody ideological wars, they have allowed the 'three letter agencies' and government scientists to commit crimes for their office. They have been sexually incontinent and unable to understand briefings without pictures. They've sided with racists and never been female.

This is not to say the U.S.A. is bad, it isn't. I don't support Trump more or less than other American presidents, I'm not American. I'm an observer and I'm interested in how these people are represented.

Genuinely keen for examples of other presidents looking to dismantle the democratic system in the same way?

I hold no admiring brief for all other POTUSes. There are some awful people on the list.

When was that?

Also he was an embarrassment at the Club World Cup. First he kept the original trophy in the Oval Office, FIFA made a replica. Then he pocketed a medal which should only been given to players and staff. Then he was on the podium when Chelsea received the replica trophy. Could see players, especially Cole Palmer with that ‘WTF is he doing there’ look.

Reported on 7th April 2023.

I don't think he looks as if he has lost weight since; if anything he looks larger than he did two and a half years ago (especially round the ankles).

Spitting Image used to make mockery of Reagan.

On meeting Mrs Thatcher:

"Shame it's only her country I'm screwing"

Reagan’s appalling handling of the AIDS crisis cost so many lives. He was an awful man.

I didn't say presidents were or are trying to dismantle the democratic system of America. I said subvert the rules. I don't think America's democratic system has failed or that any president has succeeded in circumventing it, like Richard Nixon didn't get the unlawful third term he plotted.

America's democracy stands or falls by the solidity of its own construction and the will of its citizens. It's either robust or not and if it's robust, Trump will merely become a tubby portrait on the wall with the rest of them. If Donald J Trump has the power to 'dismantle' America's democracy then it was already hopelessly fragile.

But I'm honestly mainly interested in the symbolism of his weight, his comb-over and his gold taps.

Thank you - that's very kind of you.

That'll be the Scottish side of him coming out...

I used to be sent to the baker's for 'well-fired rolls'.

I think Trump has absolutely exposed the fragility of the system and how it has been held together by convention, and he shows no sign of stopping in his dismantling of norms. In a way, having his two terms interrupted was a gift to him as it gives him a longer time span to appoint judges, and ferment his supporters, and the US now has a perfect storm of power in all three branches sitting with the same party, which has itself been captured by what was until relatively recently an extreme fringe of the Republicans.

The 240lbs on indictment was 2023, despite his 'official' weight being 215 at the time. His medical this year claims 224. So, I went for the heaviest in my calculation of his BMI.

Which you are taking very seriously. I see now this thread is in 'Politics' but when I responded originally it was a fun title in 'Trending'. Glad to have engaged with you but I should get back to Tattle Life now.

Thankyou. You said it better 👍

It could be argued that causing milder suffering to thousands of people is worse. 'Evil' is a slippery concept. Wishing death on someone isn't equivalent to killing someone but it's definitely expressing dislike.

Maybe you should.

Trump has caused thousands and thousands of deaths.

I agree. And he doesn't care. He's only interested in himself.

The thing is that when they die they leave a legacy of hatred and division that lasts for generations. For example we now have a housing crisis because Thatcher sold housing stock off to private buyers. I remember people I knew from wealthy families buying up the best council houses in prime locations for next to nothing, properties that were worth a bomb on the private market.