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Ricky Jones Cleared

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DancingFerret · 15/08/2025 12:33

Unbelievable (but not unexpected).

www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-15003437/Labour-councillor-cleared-cutting-throats-comment-rally.html

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SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 11:34

I wonder if LCs offence is covered by the Proceeds of Crime Act ?

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 11:54

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 10:00

Unlike many I've read the court sentencing remarks for Connolly, therefore am aware of her behaviour and why she got the sentence she did. You are minimising what she did perhaps because you agree with her, who knows.

She wasn't imprisoned for making racist remarks, she was imprisoned for inciting racial hatred and endangering life. The riots were sparked by lies doing the rounds on social media and inflamed by comments such as Connolly's. If you don't believe that what people write on social media has an influence then it's you who's deluded.

Its a normal human reaction to slaughter of children

Here are the bones of the situation. You believe that racist comments where a whole group of people are blamed and threats made to their lives is a 'normal human reaction' and I think it's the mark of a crazed loon. Civilised people don't behave that way.

You give the impression that you're excusing Jones' foul behaviour.

No I don't:

He shouldn't have said it and it's right if he's no longer an MP.

I have given no excuse for his behaviour unlike you and Connolly.

Here are the NF stickers.

LC has been made an example of by Starmer's mates and please don't try to tell me that Starmer's prints weren't all over the rapid sentencing last year.

Starmer did what he had to do to stop rioting which was endangering lives. Connolly got the sentence in line with the crime she pleaded guilty to. The sentencing guidelines are freely available if you're not too bone idle to check. However I'm sure nothing will change your mind about two tier conspiracy theories and idolisation of vile racists.

Jones was found innocent by a jury and you'll have to suck it up.

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Oh I know I'll have to suck it up and have done. However my opinions still stand.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 12:08

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 11:54

Oh I know I'll have to suck it up and have done. However my opinions still stand.

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I did anticipate that nothing would make you budge.

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 12:11

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 12:08

I did anticipate that nothing would make you budge.

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At least you can claim that you're right once again.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 12:13

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 12:11

At least you can claim that you're right once again.

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Goes without saying.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 17/08/2025 12:22

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 11:33

If that's your stance, Jones should now have his suspension lifted and be welcomed back to the Labour Party.

If you RTFT you'd know my stance.

Jones being found not guilty by a jury doesn't mean he did not do what he was accused of. He did, and personally I find it unbecoming in someone who seeks public office, and would rather they were not a member of a party I was (which I am not. I don't belong to any party).

Despite working in computers for over 2/3rds of my life, I still fail to think in binary and am capable of holding many many differing views in one place.

So no, I am not thinking he should be readmitted to the Labour party. He's probably much better suited to Reform who like actual convicted criminals as MPs.

Jones being found not guilty by a jury doesn't mean he did not do what he was accused of. He did, and personally I find it unbecoming …

You find it ‘unbecoming’? Indecorous is it? Unflattering? I find that about eg. People spitting.

Only a Labour supporter could describe one of their own inciting people to slit others’ throats, as, unbecoming.

Recollections would also no doubt vary, had Ricky Jones not been caught on video inciting people to slit others’ throats.

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 14:03

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 12:13

Goes without saying.

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Definitely 😉

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 14:16

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 17/08/2025 12:22

Jones being found not guilty by a jury doesn't mean he did not do what he was accused of. He did, and personally I find it unbecoming …

You find it ‘unbecoming’? Indecorous is it? Unflattering? I find that about eg. People spitting.

Only a Labour supporter could describe one of their own inciting people to slit others’ throats, as, unbecoming.

Recollections would also no doubt vary, had Ricky Jones not been caught on video inciting people to slit others’ throats.

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Oh giver over with your faux judgement.

First off, as you well know, I am no Labour supporter - I support no political party.

Secondly, given the hysterical howling about how LC is somehow the second coming brought down by Starmer, a little understatement should be welcome. Some of use do have settings under 11.

Recollections would also no doubt vary, had Ricky Jones not been caught on video inciting people to slit others’ throats.

And if my car had legs it would be a horse.

Alexandra2001 · 17/08/2025 14:53

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 17/08/2025 12:22

Jones being found not guilty by a jury doesn't mean he did not do what he was accused of. He did, and personally I find it unbecoming …

You find it ‘unbecoming’? Indecorous is it? Unflattering? I find that about eg. People spitting.

Only a Labour supporter could describe one of their own inciting people to slit others’ throats, as, unbecoming.

Recollections would also no doubt vary, had Ricky Jones not been caught on video inciting people to slit others’ throats.

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Well, i don't understand why he wasn't found guilty but i didn't hear the evidence against him or his defence, just gossip.

I assume you did attend the case? as you've such strong opinions

Considering the 30mins it took to find him no guilty, evidence must have been flimsy or the prosecution case badly presented.

No he shouldn't be re admitted, he bought the party into disrepute....

LittleBowSheep · 17/08/2025 16:30

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 09:31

What's that got to do with the sentencing last year? There's always whataboutery that's brought into a discussion. I'm talking about Starmer last year.

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That's an odd thing to say considering this whole thread is based on whataboutery.

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 16:51

Is it? I'm trying to keep my posts about Jones and Connolly and , naturally, Starmer's speech which he made just days after the slaughter of 3 children. Not sure what else you expect me to say unless you want repetition continually. There's nothing to stop you putting in your POV about other PMs though .

Alexandra2001 · 17/08/2025 16:59

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 16:51

Is it? I'm trying to keep my posts about Jones and Connolly and , naturally, Starmer's speech which he made just days after the slaughter of 3 children. Not sure what else you expect me to say unless you want repetition continually. There's nothing to stop you putting in your POV about other PMs though .

It was a scary time last August, Starmer dealt with it well.

I don't know what you expect a Govt to do when faced with widespread violent disorder?

People shouldn't take the law into their own hands and that goes for Jones and Connelly.

...but of course normal people don't go about trying to burn down hotels full of people or attack the police.... ignorant thugs do, egged by the right wing and the media.

Jones made his remarks outside of riotous behaviour, which no one took any notice off.... probably thought "what a tw@t"

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 17:25

Alexandra2001 · 17/08/2025 16:59

It was a scary time last August, Starmer dealt with it well.

I don't know what you expect a Govt to do when faced with widespread violent disorder?

People shouldn't take the law into their own hands and that goes for Jones and Connelly.

...but of course normal people don't go about trying to burn down hotels full of people or attack the police.... ignorant thugs do, egged by the right wing and the media.

Jones made his remarks outside of riotous behaviour, which no one took any notice off.... probably thought "what a tw@t"

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This again you see. A claim that RJs out burst was a nothing to see here moment. move along and LCs was inciting violence. He made his remarks because of the riots. It was rioters whose throats he suggested be cut. What did I want Starmer to do, you ask. Treat everyone from the aftermath the same maybe?

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 17:29

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 17:25

This again you see. A claim that RJs out burst was a nothing to see here moment. move along and LCs was inciting violence. He made his remarks because of the riots. It was rioters whose throats he suggested be cut. What did I want Starmer to do, you ask. Treat everyone from the aftermath the same maybe?

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What did you find the most interesting part of the barristers commentary ? For me it was the details of the court process that were involved in LCs case and the fact of RJ being denied bail initially. And the fact that judges are very sniffy about politicians sticking their noses into cases (a point made by JRM from personal experience).

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 17:34

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 17:25

This again you see. A claim that RJs out burst was a nothing to see here moment. move along and LCs was inciting violence. He made his remarks because of the riots. It was rioters whose throats he suggested be cut. What did I want Starmer to do, you ask. Treat everyone from the aftermath the same maybe?

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Jones was found not guilty of intent to encourage violence. What he said was despicable but the jury believed that he did not intend for people to cut the throats of the far right. No one's throats were cut after what he said.

It was rioters whose throats he suggested be cut.

You're perfectly aware that that isn't true. In the video he talks about the far right who put stickers with razor blades on trains. He didn't mention rioters.

Connolly pleaded guilty to intent to incite racial hatred. People tried to set light to occupied buildings and she was found guilty of intent to endanger life.

LittleBowSheep · 17/08/2025 17:51

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 16:51

Is it? I'm trying to keep my posts about Jones and Connolly and , naturally, Starmer's speech which he made just days after the slaughter of 3 children. Not sure what else you expect me to say unless you want repetition continually. There's nothing to stop you putting in your POV about other PMs though .

Of course it is. The OP was about Jones being found not guilty. But the very first reply waded in with 'whatabout Lucy'...

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 18:03

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 17:34

Jones was found not guilty of intent to encourage violence. What he said was despicable but the jury believed that he did not intend for people to cut the throats of the far right. No one's throats were cut after what he said.

It was rioters whose throats he suggested be cut.

You're perfectly aware that that isn't true. In the video he talks about the far right who put stickers with razor blades on trains. He didn't mention rioters.

Connolly pleaded guilty to intent to incite racial hatred. People tried to set light to occupied buildings and she was found guilty of intent to endanger life.

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RJ was able to explain to a jury and they believed him - or they didn't believe the prosecution.

Bear in mind had be been found guilty, he would have received a stiffer sentence.

LittleBowSheep · 17/08/2025 18:05

Treat everyone from the aftermath the same maybe?

It's comments like this that reinforce to me how little knowledge some people have of our Criminal Justice system.

Suspects who are arrested and charged for different offences cannot all be given the same treatment. There are rules in place regarding procedures for arrest, interview, charge, remand/bail and court appearance.

It is not just a one-size-fits-all.

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 18:08

It's comments like this that reinforce to me how little knowledge some people have of our Criminal Justice system.

With an added twist of irony that it's those who understand it least are most likely to fall foul of it ...

Southern25 · 17/08/2025 18:15

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 21:53

You said:

Does anyone else think that Connelly might actually make lots of money now? I kind of hope she does , just to kick Labour in the teeth !

I have no idea why anyone would want someone convicted of inciting racial hatred and endangering life, to makes lots of money out of it. People tried to burn asylum seekers alive a few days later. She had a history of racist posts, said she'd play the 'mental health card', thought her post going viral was funny and didn't believe that she'd done anything wrong. I find her utterly repellent.

Jones apologised, said he made an off the cuff remark he didn't mean and was found not guilty. There were no violent consequences to his remarks. He shouldn't have said it and it's right if he's no longer an MP.

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But you could say the same of Connelly. She made a stupid comment , deleted it after a few hours. She don’t actually tell anyone to burn anything down or do anything violent. But the she pleaded guilty to inciting violence- and paid the price.

Jones has had a whole year to seek legal advice and come up with every excuse under the sun. Autism, racism , bullied as a child…

His smart move was to plead not guilty and go to Court. It paid off and now he’s got off. I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes back as a councillor.

But I guess this will help right wing politics, and may have done Reform a favour in the long run. Rightly or wrongly more people will think it’s a two tier justice system.

Starmer is in more trouble than he was before

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 18:19

No, you're wrong. I do not believe Jones was referring to stickers and blades. He was referring to the rioters. He's a disingenuous coward as I said in one of my previous posts.

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 18:23

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 18:19

No, you're wrong. I do not believe Jones was referring to stickers and blades. He was referring to the rioters. He's a disingenuous coward as I said in one of my previous posts.

Thankfully, it wasn't up to you, but 12 people who aren't you.

mrshoho · 17/08/2025 18:26

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 18:08

It's comments like this that reinforce to me how little knowledge some people have of our Criminal Justice system.

With an added twist of irony that it's those who understand it least are most likely to fall foul of it ...

Where's the irony?

Pepperlee · 17/08/2025 18:26

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 17:29

What did you find the most interesting part of the barristers commentary ? For me it was the details of the court process that were involved in LCs case and the fact of RJ being denied bail initially. And the fact that judges are very sniffy about politicians sticking their noses into cases (a point made by JRM from personal experience).

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Oh sorry I didn't read the barrister's whatever. Clearly you did. Please don't enlighten me. I can't be arsed. I know how I feel about the whole Jones' thing. I despise him. He's a coward and a creep. If only he'd had the guts to own up but he didn't and now he's free.