Are Scottish people worried about immigration in the same way that English people are?

[Grace040712]

Everyday, day time TV shows are filled with topics of immigrants but in my day to day life (living in Scotland) I don't notice immigrants, I don't feel they are stealing jobs or living off benefits any more than any other group in society. Perhaps it's just where I live but I'm interested, are Scottish people as concerned by immigration as they are down south?

We need immigration. Our economy would collapse without immigrants. They’re not the ones putting a strain on the economy, those hoarding wealth and evading tax are.

I don't have a stance 😊. I was genuinely curious and have become a bit of a mumsnet enthusiast since having my last child but thank you for calling me a nice human being! I'll take that as a compliment and wish you well in your clawing back of sanity.

Thanks @Grace040712, 🫶🏼 I’ll let you know how it goes x

OP Scotland doesn’t currently have the same immigration pressures as England and Ireland so it won’t have the same concerns. It will though in the not too distant future.

How much do you need?

I was thinking this! We don't have a border from England (obviously) so it would be very easy for people to travel up I assume.

I live in rural Scotland and it is hideously white / homogeneous in my neck of the woods. Last year one child enrolled in p1 in the village school. One! So no, it’s not an issue we are living and breathing around here!!

It is really very irritating when people performatively say things like "hideously white" (it's also racism both in criminal and civil law).

My kids are also in this position. There were only 9 in their p1 class last year and I wouldn't say we are rural. It's a coastal town but 9 p1s is hardly any considering I was in a P1 (in the 1990s) at the same school and there were too full classes.

There are immigrant hotels in Scotland one I know of in East Kilbride cant remember the name off hand but yes

As an emigrant from the UK, nearly everyone posting here as family or friends who are emigrants. Maybe people could be a bit more compassionate in our name

I now live in an area of the country with very low immigrant numbers. Trying to get a GP appointment is more difficult than winning a Wonker golden ticket. Our local services are pushed to the max. And yet we have flats close by being built at an exponential rate. Local services are completely depleted and have no investment. I'm sure that's quite normal for much of England these days, and it's the kind of thing that angers and frustrates people, pushing them into wanting some kind of explanation and to reach out quickly for a scapegoat.

My hairdresser is. Lovely woman but not the brightest spark. Thinks Farage is great.

A local care home closed down and the rumours were that it would house immigrants and she wasn't happy.

Southside of Glasgow (govanhill) has a large Roma population, and they often experience more negative response than other BME groups in the area.

I'm in Lanarkshire and our local Facebook group is rife with "I voted reform to kick these migrants out" goons. What migrants? Any and all. Our town's high street opened a new curry restaurant where an old pub used to be, and it really welcomed the worst of our town to comment.

You can’t emigrate into the U.K. from the U.K. Although it does make moving 30 miles sound more exotic.

I'm in the NE so not an issue here but I did feel uncomfortable walking past a hotel in Glasgow with large groups of men standing around doing nothing all day.

@VashtaNerada

Overall asylum system cost (2023/24)

• Total Home Office spending on asylum — including accommodation, subsistence, staffing, appeals and more — reached £5.4 billion, more than double what it was in 2021/22

Of what benefit exactly is this to the average British citizen? How do we need this?

Do you think this is partly due to young people being priced out of houses by English retirees?

my in-laws live in a rural part of Scotland and they know local youngsters who struggle with something similar and it’s causing chaos as there is almost no ‘young generation’ now. They are all having to move away to afford housing due to being priced out

This could be part of the problem. Where I live we have a lot of second home owners and generally speaking they are English. We have definitely had the problem of young people being outbid due to the cost of housing being pushed up by people who want a second home in a quiet seaside town.

In my experience, no. And the obvious reason for that is that over the last 25 years immigration has been so much lower than it has been in England, so it’s hardly surprising that it’s less of an issue.

In the course of my work, I regularly visit the head office a business based in the Glasgow area. About 150 people work there and, to English eyes, the place is startlingly homogeneous. All but a handful of the workers are of Scottish heritage and there are only a few non-white faces. No Comparable English office has looked like that for at least 20 years. I’m not suggesting that this is either a good thing or a bad thing, I’m just pointing out that objectively it is a fact.

What are you proposing then?

The problem doesn't simply go away if Government refuses to spend money trying to address it.

Of course there is a cost associated with the Asylum process. The benefit to the average British citizen is that once the process is complete, we, more often than not, end up with another contributing, tax-paying member of the citizenry, therefore benefitting the collective whole.

The fact Government squanders income and refuses to pay for adequate public services is nothing to do with asylum or any other form of immigration, because economically active members of the citizenry are what generate that income. Refusal to provide adequate services is an ideological choice.

There deffo was a big one in Aberdeen as I worked on it!!

Oh interesting! Thank you for sharing.

The immigrant men in the hotel in Aberdeen I was working in all moaned it was too cold

I didn't say it was untrue. Thank you for sharing your experience 😊