Actually Pro Immigration- Hear Me Out?

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I have always been, and will always be, pro immigrant, pro asylum seeker, and pro refugee. It saddens me that I seem to be in the vast minority these days, the lack of empathy from the general population of the UK in 2025 is disgraceful imo.

I chose as part of my career to support refugees, and it has opened my eyes even more every day. The tragedies these young people have gone through are unimaginable for anyone here, and the treatment they get when they arrive is appalling.

When illegal immigration is brought up in a political context, it is always devoid of humanity, vulnerable people spoken about like an invasive species. I implore anyone so far removed from the realities of ‘illegal’ immigrants, especially those who risked their lives to be here, to volunteer for a refugee charity.

These are children, overjoyed to learn simple words so they can make friends with our children in the playground. Teenagers, completely overwhelmed by food they’ve never seen before (like fish fingers!). Young families, so grateful to a country that wants them to ‘go back to where they come from’ even if they die there.

It’s heartbreaking, and it makes me sick. Every time I see the Reform lot, racists, and other bigots treating immigrants as the scapegoat, I can’t help but think of my little students, their families, and the stories they’ve told me of life before they arrived.

It baffles me how people can go on about ‘British values’ while showing absolutely no kindness to the people who need it most. What’s the point of this national pride if it’s built on cruelty and exclusion? I see so much ‘we need to look after our own first’ rhetoric, but why can’t we do both? Why does helping people fleeing war and persecution make you angry? Why is that your line in the sand?

If anyone else is feeling like this, works in this area, or has something to add I’d love to hear it. If you’re going to try and change my opinion, please save your energy ❤️

Changed my username for this one because I’m discussing my professional life and opinions rather than my family life. Long time user over several accounts. Thanks for reading, sorry if it’s a rant.

I am a migrant, non-UK born, I have lived in several countries, not all Western.

I used to be leftie at uni before I actually got out of my nice little bubble of progressive certainty by actually migrating and living in other cultures. I still have many friends and acquaintances involved in open borders and pro-migration movements. That's how I know the type so well and have a few stories.

I let you do the maths for the amount of foreigners I know😂

What experience or expertise do you bring to the table?

I'm interested in the proof you have (beyond a single anecdote), that all asylum seekers given refugee status are fake.

Every year that passes we are letting in tens of thousands (probably more) young men of fighting age, who are undocumented, unchecked and do not adhere to or respect our cultural or societal norms. Never has it been such a frightening time to be a woman in this country.

Never mind migration/immigration, it feels like a fucking invasion.

So, you can piss off with your bloody virtue signalling OP.

Would you be prepared to pay more tax for them so those that don’t want them here can have their money diverted to NHS , social care , education etc etc ?

The Mrs Jellbys on this thread.

If we ever go to war we can guess whose side they’ll be on . The enemy within

It's Saturday, the Inquisition is closed. You can resume your fanatic work of systematically looking for evil in me because it MUST be there and not stopping until you find something that can be construed as such back on Monday.

Happy weekend!

Asking you to back up what you're saying is a fanatical inquisition. The hyperbole is real.

I think she's parodying how ridiculous you are.

Agree with everything you said and so sad to see this country going the way it’s going. I never thought the British people would have so little empathy but here we are. My neighbour told me today if I don’t vote Reform he doesn’t want to know me. I guess that’s the end of our neighbourly relationship!

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You are clearly a useful handmaiden for the mass importing of thousands of misogynistic military age young men, who have abandoned the vulnerable in search of a better life.

OP take your dangerous handwringing elsewhere.

no doubt you live in Guildford or Devon or some such non diverse area

I think it’s actually a good example of how the system can be played. It definitely can, I’ve seen a few examples myself and have been told that I’m naive because i do everything properly…

Immigrant workers are overwhelmingly net contributors ( as is my family in case that was a dig. Massively so.)

Blatant racism.

You obviously have the evidence. I haven't been able to find the amount of fraud in the asylum system. I understand that it's getting a lot harder to get refugee status, for example the grant rate for Afghan cases has gone down from 98.5% in the last quarter of 2023 to 36% in the last quarter of 2024. Recently 26 Afghan women had their claims rejected, one of which was a human rights defender whose life was at risk.

What?! I’m a white, British born woman and I’m far more frightened by Reform.

Who do expect to attempt the dangerous journey? Young women, girls, old women? No, strong young men, obviously 🙄

Oh well that’s ok then. Just leave the women, children and old folk in these countries and save themselves. Nice. 🙄

You’re being obtuse, now. Someone has to get here first and establish asylum before they can bring their family. Who would you send, were you to find yourself in a similar position? The strongest and fittest makes perfect sense to me. Unless you’d rather your family and risk them drowning?

It's not just the risk of drowning. In some countries such as Afghanistan, women can't travel alone and they're also at risk from human traffickers and other abuse on the journey which is long and arduous.

Again, legal immigrants. Immigrants do generally have a greater “get up and go” attitude (literally!) than the local population which is why some degree of controlled immigration is beneficial. But you can’t treat all immigrants as the same.

The real reason immigration is allowed is to prop up GDP. However, if you look at GDP per person, which is a better measure of living standards, then the UK is not doing so well. In fact, having economies based on population growth is never going to be sustainable, not planet wide, not country wide. At the same time, there’s a cost of having a more divisive population.

I honestly didn’t say i had any evidence. Just some experience.

It's good to have evidence to back up claims otherwise it sounds like people are making stuff up to suit their agenda.

There is no such thing as an illegal immigrant! How many times?

Everyone arriving on Uk shores by whatever means (there are currently no safe routes from numerous countries) can legally claim asylum. Their case is considered and a decision made on its merits. If their case is not granted, they are deported.

I worked for an MP in a London borough with a high number of immigrants. I have an inkling of what I’m talking about.

And if you’re seriously looking for a reason for Britains appealing economic situation, I suggest you look up “Brexit”. Promoted by the current leader (or rather Managing Director) of Reform.