Actually Pro Immigration- Hear Me Out?

[n4mech4ng3r]

I have always been, and will always be, pro immigrant, pro asylum seeker, and pro refugee. It saddens me that I seem to be in the vast minority these days, the lack of empathy from the general population of the UK in 2025 is disgraceful imo.

I chose as part of my career to support refugees, and it has opened my eyes even more every day. The tragedies these young people have gone through are unimaginable for anyone here, and the treatment they get when they arrive is appalling.

When illegal immigration is brought up in a political context, it is always devoid of humanity, vulnerable people spoken about like an invasive species. I implore anyone so far removed from the realities of ‘illegal’ immigrants, especially those who risked their lives to be here, to volunteer for a refugee charity.

These are children, overjoyed to learn simple words so they can make friends with our children in the playground. Teenagers, completely overwhelmed by food they’ve never seen before (like fish fingers!). Young families, so grateful to a country that wants them to ‘go back to where they come from’ even if they die there.

It’s heartbreaking, and it makes me sick. Every time I see the Reform lot, racists, and other bigots treating immigrants as the scapegoat, I can’t help but think of my little students, their families, and the stories they’ve told me of life before they arrived.

It baffles me how people can go on about ‘British values’ while showing absolutely no kindness to the people who need it most. What’s the point of this national pride if it’s built on cruelty and exclusion? I see so much ‘we need to look after our own first’ rhetoric, but why can’t we do both? Why does helping people fleeing war and persecution make you angry? Why is that your line in the sand?

If anyone else is feeling like this, works in this area, or has something to add I’d love to hear it. If you’re going to try and change my opinion, please save your energy ❤️

Changed my username for this one because I’m discussing my professional life and opinions rather than my family life. Long time user over several accounts. Thanks for reading, sorry if it’s a rant.

And these liberal elites will be the first to leave when it kicks off, impacts their area or their taxes go up to pay for their benefits.

They're treated far better here than just about anywhere else. That's why they risk their lives to get here from France of all places.

It's suicidal empathy that has us in this mess.

Yet the government does refer to them as illegal immigrants!

Treated badly? They are rescued from the sea and given a roof over their heads and health care should they need it and you think that’s treated badly? What else should we give them to make them feel better? In other countries they’d get a prison sentence for trying to enter illegally yet we are the ones that treat them badly.

Radio 4 played the voices of Blair, Brown,Cameron, May, Johnson, Sunak, Starmer ALL promising that they will sort immigration. So we’ve had 300,000 a year in Blair’s time with a rising rate up to 900,000 with Sunak, every year for 22years (and some before that).

It may just be my view, but I really don't want to live in an Islamicised environment. There is absolutely no vision of life in which I am going to cover my head or face to placate the idiocies of men from another country. They decided to move here for economic reasons. There's no way on earth I am going to comply. If that's the agenda, just go back to where you came from.

Before you write me off as racist, I spent six summers in the extreme south of France, living on a boat. The local French called the area the Maghrebb. Nobody wants these idle useless soakers living in their region

@n4mech4ng3r

this is a bit of a cop out. You know full well that the countries that lots of these young men are from treat women as second class citizens. We don’t want to import that culture regardless of what religion people are practising or claiming to practise and we haven’t been nearly strong enough about this. Stopping cousin marriage, which is one of the expectations of some young men who emigrate here as first generation and which traps vulnerable women, would be a good first step.

I agree. It was sarcasm in response to the poster I quoted x

Oh my bad sorry. It’s hard to tell on here sometimes who’s being sarcastic and who’s not when it comes to this topic.

Britain is broke, socially , culturally and now economically. I will be taking all measures to aggressively plan for my children and do what I can while I am here. But the county has gone down the pan and there is no going back. Every day on my way home from work , I pass a large migrant hotel. Full of shady looking men hanging around. I lock my car doors and am promised where my taxes are going. We are all paying for this. Not interested in liberal do gooders, if they want they can go
live in Afghanistan or wherever…. But they never do - wonder why that is ?
For all those who say, but immigration supports the NHS - maybe for some roles - but don’t present it as a fait accompli , after all , immigrants and their families also get sick , and old, claim benefits etc, need housing etc.

Unemployment is rising too. So the reluctance of UK nationals to work in the NHS themselves will change.

Do “liberals” ever visit certain places? Bradford? Luton? Do they honestly think these towns look pleasant places to live? And it’s not - weep weep - funding - it’s the general air hanging over them.

I asked earlier - but received no reply - whether some posters approved of respecting people’s cultural practices which are not in line with “ours”. Particularly, of course, treatment of women. I wonder if some posters would walk around certain areas in a pair of shorts (frumpy mum ones!) and a sleeveless top.

Some liberals live in them.

I sometimes suspect some of the posters don't actually live in the UK at all. Otherwise how would they have so completely missed what is going on? That everyone else sees to clearly. It's odd myopia.

@MrsSkylerWhite - ok, so you live in such an area. I would like to know, as I said, whether - if the majority of a local population is in favour - certain cultural practices should be accepted. Just a trivial one - but a local councillor here wanted to ban dogs on council-owned land (ie parks). Now, obviously that is a trivial issue in the grand scheme of things, but what about issues such as women?

This makes no sense and I don’t believe it. Why would 26 Afghan women have their claims rejected, especially one who was a human rights defender where indeed her life would be at risk? They are the very people that absolutely should get granted asylum and would be welcomed here with open arms.

A - How would you know? (Seems to me you’re trying to illustrate that we’re not a soft touch with that example and to show how hard it to stay here, but we know that’s nonsense)

B- Why would they refuse these women? There so no logic behind it.

We’re the laughing stock of the world for our ‘open’ borders. The tide is starting to turn and the public are no longer scared to say actually no this isn’t on. Tens of thousands of undocumented men wandering about our town and cities at the expense of the tax payers. Public appetite for helping has waned and that’s why you’re seeing protests. You can also see by responses on this thread that the majority aren’t in favour of what’s happening now. There are posters that have haven admitted they were all for it, but now but so much.

The governments haven’t listened to the pubic who voted them in, so on their back be it. Good bye labour at the next election, hello reform.

My husband,lives in a nice expensive area ,not much has changed here in a long time .
He is all for open boarders,thinks the money needs taking of the rich to pay for the new comers by boat .
He thinks there is plenty of housing not being used ,that can be taken of the rich and given to the boat people.
This is a man who had the childhood of my dreams ,private school , swimming pool in his garden..coseted totally.
Has he ever been to Bradford,or Blackburn,or even rough areas of London
Has he fuck
He thinks corbin is the new coming
How am I meant to stay married when we have such opposing views

Another one calling bullshit. Show me an Afghan woman who has been told to go back to Afghanistan. It will be because they’ve come from another country where they already made a claim or because the HO doesn’t believe they’re Afghani.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/05/afghan-rights-defender-told-she-faces-no-risk-from-taliban-as-home-office-denies-asylum

They are right. Sadly.

The misogyny from the HO is infuriating, there should be provisions for Afghan women FFS. If the asylum system was fair or working, they should be helped first.

Whatever our respective views on asylum, I hope we all agree on that.

TBF according to recent reports, the Taliban are already here anyway.

I seen the article headline on that too in the last couple of days. I couldn’t read it because you have to subscribe and pay and I’m too tight 😂 so I didn’t see the details, but it was a broadsheet and not ‘here say’ - ‘she said he said’…..

I think that’s one thing people on either side will agree on. These poor women and children absolutely need protection and should be prioritised.

How would you do that? Most places have been bombed to smithereeens!